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Prefer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 11:07 AM
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BREAKING NEWS:There is NO WAY OBAMA CAN LOSE the Presidential Election.
Edited on Sat Feb-02-08 11:56 AM by Prefer
Am I so glad we have defeated the Corporatist right juggernaut.

After all these years of coordinated funded dirty tricks against us, they have finally decided to give up.

Notice that there is no current campaign of collusive corruption coming from the right. They are standing back to not interfere with our primaries to guarantee a fair process, because they respect our institutions more than they need to retain power.

The election of President Barack Obama will break a trend never before even challenged in our nation's history - a member of a %12 population minority - the very story of which is interwoven with hundreds of years of divisive history - will be accepted to lead the %69 majority population. Yes indeed that is historical.

In the past years, we would have seen well funded astro-turf operations - planned, coordinated propaganda attacks to destroy our unity, confuse and strategically mislead us. But not now. They have simply given up - and they are stepping aside to allow us to choose a guaranteed winner - Barack Obama.

You can feel Barack Obama's momentum surging in our grass root communication spots - as if it came out of nowhere. And we ourselves have helped this phenomenon - by abandoning all of our concerns of the past years to focus on hope. We know that with hope, we can change things for a brighter tomorrow. And it's all going to happen by getting Americans involved. Yes we can. Lets all come together in the moment - our unity behind Barack is what is important - the details will work themselves out later.

We will achieve Universal Healthcare by working with the insurance industry and medical industry to lower their profits. We'll right the wrongs of the current administration by working together with them in unity.

I have to admit my spirit was dampened over the last near decade, but now I am hopeful, because the right wing corporate juggernaut has finally given up and even they can't manipulate things to stop us.


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HonestyIsAVirtue Donating Member (51 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 11:09 AM
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1. No more war
That's the most important point. The ones who voted for it have blood on their hands.
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zabet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 11:11 AM
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2. Along with the ones
that vote to continue funding
a war that they and their constituants
do not believe in.
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neutron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 02:36 PM
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40. The Corporate Right owns MSM and MSM is pro Obama
does that tell you anything?
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Prefer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 11:11 AM
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3. That's right - lets embrace them in the spirit of unity
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BenDavid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 11:13 AM
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4. Would you like to go "all in" with that bold statement?
I have a good and I mean good feeling that either late, late Tuesday night or early Wedneday morning you obama folks will be in for ONE RUDE AWAKENING.....
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calmblueocean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 11:15 AM
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7. BenDavid, he's being sarcastic. (n/t)
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 02:35 PM
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38. I so hope it!
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 11:16 AM
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8. I think we will be exactly where we are now on ComeDownWed.
Nearly split down the middle.
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DinahMoeHum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 11:14 AM
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5. From your mouth to G*d's ears. . .
and all that jazz.
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 11:14 AM
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6. The "Corporatist right juggernaut" hasn't even weighed in yet.
You have defeated nobody.
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 11:16 AM
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9. Obama is part of the corporatist system.He went out of his way in his Iowa speech to not just
offer them a "seat at the table"but to guarantee it!. Have you even looked at his contributors?Give me a break.Obqama has some good qualities but being anti corporate is not one of them.And if you haven't noticed, Obama does NOT support Universal Health care. Barack's support did not "come out of nowhere" though it is designed to look like that.That is why there were signs proclaiming "Obama for President" that are identical to those that he uses today were featured at the 2004 Dem Convention when he was still an unknown State senator. This post is naive at best.But best of luck to you.
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kurth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 11:23 AM
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11. But he'll ask them to PLEASE "lower their profits"
Edited on Sat Feb-02-08 11:23 AM by kurth
by 0.1%.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 11:24 AM
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12. ...
:spray:
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Prefer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 11:58 AM
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18. Lets put aside all our differences to embrace their agenda!
YES WE CAN!
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 12:22 PM
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24. NO I CAN"t!
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golddigger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 12:45 PM
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28. NO I WON"T!...n/t
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golddigger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 12:51 PM
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29. I am not a SHEEP!
I am a man who will vote for John Edwards. And so will my wife and 14 others in my family.
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golddigger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 12:55 PM
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30. And what to tell is the agenda?
Sometimes I get the feeling from the Obama people that we are electing a Church leader.

Does anyone else feel this way? Or am I the only one?
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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 02:25 PM
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34. My sentiments exactly...
...Obama is part of and a product of the corporatist system. Other candidates were shoved out of the process (Edwards, Kucinich, et al) because of the corporatist system - and all we're LEFT with is Obama and Clinton to choose from.

BECAUSE THAT'S ALL THE CORPORATIST system WANTED us to choose from.

Naive doesn't begin to describe this post, with all due respect to the OP.

Good grief. Get some clues, sweetie.
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ErnestoG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 01:51 AM
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48. Gotta piss on something positive, don't you. Amazing.
I have to say, I've never seen so many sourpusses in my life as the Hillarbots on this forum. I think Ebeneezer Scrooge was in their lineage, somewhere...
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Onlooker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 11:20 AM
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10. But, you want to work the corporate juggurnaut!
From the your own post, "We will achieve Universal Healthcare by working with the insurance industry and medical industry to lower their profits."

I'm for Obama, but it's that kind of spineless solution that shows me he's not much different than Clinton. The only reason I'm for him is that his campaign people are better than Clinton's, and that's of vital importance come the general election. The fact that we will have a person-of-color (or a woman) is wonderful, but don't kid yourself that either of these people are anything other than corporatists.
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Prefer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 11:31 AM
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13. Just have HOPE and BELIEVE!
YES WE CAN!
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 11:42 AM
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15. LOL!
:rofl:
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golddigger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 12:01 PM
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19. Yeppers!
Obama saw the spirit of God descending as a dove and lighting on Him, and behold, a voice out of the heavens said, "This is My beloved nominee, in whom I am well pleased." (Matthew 3:13)

Obama will feed 10,000 screaming fans from a single bag of cheeto's.

Obama will cure a ham.

Judas Rezko will betray Obama for 30 pieces of silver and a plot of land.

Well, you know the rest of the story.:evilgrin:
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Justice Is Comin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 12:37 AM
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45. Obama will cure a ham
:rofl: in fact double :rofl:
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DiamondJay Donating Member (484 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 11:41 AM
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14. so racism has dissapeared?
to think he is a shoo-in is a disasterous assumption. You forget the general electorate still harbors many stereotypes, thinks of them as rappers and ballers, and avoids black neighborhoods. Not to mention he is young, which makes the media more likely to go after fake scandals just like they did with Bill Clinton. They will bring up "drug dealing" he may have done while at Columbia in the 80's which was in the middle of the crack epidemic. They will bring up his experience in Indonesia, and then when an event occurs there, they will link it to Obama. His middle name is that of many muslims, the most hated group in America. He is far from a shoo-in. They will use racism against him because as this article says http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/obamas-crime-votes-are-fodder-for-rivals-2007-03-13.html he is "soft on crime" which has always been a very veiled but effective strategy. He is no unelectable but it certainly no shoo in
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gaspee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 11:42 AM
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16. OMG
And I thought DU members were smarter than the average bear. I'm shaking my head in wonderment that so many people are not catching your sarcasm. Really, people? Really?
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gulliver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 11:46 AM
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17. This is good satire.
Maybe too good.
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dchill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 01:48 AM
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46. .
Yours is, too. ;)
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Cameron27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 12:05 PM
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20. The big MO for the big O
it's a tidal wave, no it's a movement, no it's a movement riding on a tidal wave, no it's ... the big BAM! ROFL
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PurityOfEssence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 12:13 PM
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21. This is slobbering idiocy of the first order
Maybe he can win. Maybe not. The reactionaries are very good at pinning everything on the liberals, and the Dems are in control of congress. McCain has crossover appeal and is comfortably distanced from some of the Bush policies. The death toll in Iraq is way down, and people like to believe that we can stomp other people and do so successfully.

He has a better chance than Sentator Clinton, but he has some serious problems as a candidate, too.

Hubris like this is just silly. Congratulations, folks: fanatics have ignored reality and shoved two VERY dicy candidates down our throats, while continuing to ignore the problems.

One of the BIG problems with both of these candidates is soft support: many leftists and liberals just can't whip up much fervor for them, even though they probably will suck it up and vote for them. Read the board these days: since Edwards dropped, many of his supporters are doing just like him and politely receding into the background. Such actions are not the stuff of a groundswell of energy that's needed to drive a stake into the heart of the monarchists.

Statements like this just show a total lack of understanding of the human creature.

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blindpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 12:15 PM
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22. DU, home of the sarcasm challenged.

Jeez, small wonder they get away with so much shit.

Send that sucker to the Onion.
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CK_John Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 12:16 PM
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23. True since his only chance will be 2016. n/t
Edited on Sat Feb-02-08 12:16 PM by CK_John
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Yossariant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 12:26 PM
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25. The only way he'll lose the Presidential election is if he's the Democratic nominee.
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Sir Jeffrey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 12:29 PM
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26. I get the satire but you're wrong on many points...
The RW media has been selling a load of bullshit to good people for decades. They spoon feed these people divisive issues with no real chance of rational debate or resolution (e.g. abortion politics) and keep them distracted with celebrity worship...as if that is something worth scoring political points on.

Likewise, they continue to bring on serious minded "experts" with fancy degrees and neckties to spout on endlessly about how tax cuts, corporate welfare, and the "free market" are the real solutions to every single problem they have...whether it is stagnating salaries, inflation, gas prices, health care, etc.

And the RW media sanitize the news and scrub the rough edges out of RW politicians. All the people used to get from the RW media is how great the corporatists were, how they were worthy of deference, trust, and respect.

And what is happening now? Cognitive dissonance. People are now faced with believing the TV or their own eyes. And a lot of those people are now waking up to all the bullshit. People aren't buying it anymore. When they see something with their own eyes, or experience something like losing a home due to health care costs, or have a family member explain how fucking awful Iraq is and how every politician that voted for this stupid war ought to be held to account, that information doesn't match with the pablum that Katie Couric or George Snufflelumpagous serve out. So now we have a significant percentage of the public ready to listen to alternative points of view. This chance may not come around again for a long time, especially if we decide as a party that we want to go back to the 1990's era of triangulation, welfare reform, 50+1 politics, "The era of big government is over" and refusing to reach out to the sizeable percentage of deluded Republicans (maybe between 5-15%) who have been consistently voting against their own economic interests for decades.

And go ahead and criticize Obama's message of hope and belief in change all you want. If you knew anything about condensational symbolism, you would recognize the power of such language and ideas to manipulate public opinion and change the structure of debate. Condensational symbolism is what the Republicans have been experts at for decades....touching people's feelings about patriotism, American exceptionalism, etc. All it is is a guise to alter the frame of reference for people in order to get our policy agenda through. Gee, have the Republicans had any success at changing the frame of reference in the last 25 years or so? Shouldn't we stop playing away games and start making them play on our turf for awhile?
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Prefer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 12:42 PM
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27. "Condensational symbolism is what the Republicans have been experts at for decades"
Good thing they aren't using it against us now...
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Sir Jeffrey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 01:54 PM
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33. Yeah I know...
they haven't been attacking him AT ALL have they? I can barely remember the following:

1. "Obama is a Muslim" smear campaign, based on condensational fears of Muslim terrorists
2. the "Obama was trained in a radical Madrassa in Indonesia" news stories, again, following on condensational fears of Muslim terrorists
3. the "Obama is the black candidate" smear campa...oh wait, that was Bill Clinton, scratch that one,
4. the "Obama luvs Louis Farrakhan and is thus anti-Semitic" smear, playing on condensational stereotypes that blacks and Jews can't get along (with a hint of Jesse Jackson's "Hymietown" slur thrown in for good measure)
5. the "Obama is unpatriotic because he forgot to put his hand over his heart during the pledge of allegiance" smear
6. the "Obama's middle name is Hussein so let's refer to him thusly" smear, in order to tap into the condensational fears of Saddam Hussein that the American public was conditioned to react to during the last 3 administrations
7. the "OMG Republicans will bring up that Obama tried illegal drugs decades ago" smear cam...oh yeah, that was the Clinton campaign too.

Yeah, he's been getting a free ride from the media...

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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 03:25 PM
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42. Depends who your calling "us". If "us" is your candidate - yeah - FOR NOW
Edited on Sat Feb-02-08 03:25 PM by robbedvoter
You may have missed their efforts to bash/ignore other democratic candidates. because your guy has been served - exclusively - you call this "fair"?



Obama: 47% positive, 16% negative.
Clinton: 27% positive, 38% negative.
McCain: 12% positive, 48% negative
Giuliani: 28% positive, 37% negative
JEDNE

Net numbers

Obama +31
Giuliani -9
Clinton -11
McCain -36
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femrap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 01:18 PM
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31. Wow, you are living in a
Edited on Sat Feb-02-08 01:23 PM by femrap
fairy tale. Please read this:


http://www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_joel_s___080201_the_evolution_of_evi.htm


Thanks.

ETA: I bought it...but you sounded just like someone I was talking to the other day.
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Prefer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 01:40 PM
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32. Just Believe in the power of Hope
Nothing can stand in our way.
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 02:34 PM
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37. and poneys, dude! Don't ever forget them poneys!
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 02:28 PM
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35. Just to be sure - there's no sarcasm in this post, right? Cuz, I have another view
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 02:30 PM
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36. Breaking news?
I roll my eyes when Merkin makes such pronouncements as if they were both fact and news. I do no less here.

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ursi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 02:35 PM
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39. Go Obama!
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VotesForWomen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 03:17 PM
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41. hope springs eternal, doesn't it?... or, there's a sucker a born every minute... nt
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balantz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 12:15 AM
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43. You are brilliant.
K&R
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FlyingSquirrel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 12:28 AM
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44. You're funny.
:rofl:
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Blue_State_Elitist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 01:49 AM
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47. "After all these years of coordinated funded dirty tricks against us, they have finally decided to
give up"


Yeah right.
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BenDavid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 01:59 AM
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49. WHOAAAAAAAAAAA .obama's got to win the nomination first
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 04:46 AM
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50. Ummm... I don't wanna bum you out, but we haven't defeated anybody.
Most of the Democratic candidates were wholly ignored by the corporate news media. The fact that your preferred candidate wasn't ignored doesn't mean that we have beat the corporations. It *may* mean that your candidate was the lesser of 8 "evils" from the corporate perspective.

NOTE: I said "may." I am not accusing your candidate of being a corporate shill.
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