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hiaasenrocks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 12:33 PM
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If you woke up one morning and turned on the TV and saw that the US had been attacked....
which candidate would you want in the Oval Office and why?

Disclaimer: I'm fully aware that there is a contingent of people who think any question about terrorism is "playing the fear card," but this is a sincere question. I'd appreciate some sincere answers.
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Xenotime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 12:34 PM
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1. Al Gore.
He's about the only person who understands what is going on and knows how to communicate.
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Olney Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 12:36 PM
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2. Hillary Clinton.
But I would trust Barack Obama as well.
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 12:36 PM
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3. Seriously? Of the remaining two? Hillary. She would surround herself with competant people and have
the best instincts.She was not my favorite for many reasons but in an instance such as this, ashe is the ONLT one of the two that has the ability to make considered decision.
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 12:37 PM
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4. Obama
Hillary has already proven with her IWR vote that she's not above attacking the wrong country for the wrong reason.
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jasmine621 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 12:43 PM
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9. In this scenario you are President. You don't get to "vote." nt
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 12:47 PM
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16. In this scenario you are President. You don't get to "vote."
If her ability to discern right from wrong is too clouded by politics to make the right "vote" on a matter like invading a soveriegn nation without cause, theres no reason to expect she can make the right decision in a time of real crisis where her decisions are more than just a simple vote.
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BlackVelvet04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 12:54 PM
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24. Obama's ability to discern right from wrong
wasn't so great when he actually had to use his judgment concerning something he wanted. We'll never know what he would have done had he been called upon to make a vote....even he said he doesn't know. But we do know his judgment sucked when he got involved in a land deal with Rezko.

See, there's a difference in saying you have great judgment and then actually using great judgment.

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Hieronymus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 12:39 PM
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6. Obama .. especially since Hillary lied about her vote to go to war. Scary.
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bidenista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 12:40 PM
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7. Hillary nt
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killbotfactory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 12:41 PM
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8. Obama
He would retaliate against the right country or group of terrorists, instead of just attacking Iran.
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calmblueocean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 12:43 PM
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10. Obama, because Hillary has shown she still has an American Empire mentality.
I really do see Hillary as Bush Lite, at least in terms of her foreign policy. And she's shown that she thinks she has to "demonstrate" how tough she is, because she thinks people will underestimate her as a woman. I really wouldn't like to see her reaction, or her Bush-like overreaction, if we're attacked again.
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Hart2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 12:44 PM
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11. If we had Gary Hart in office, the attacks could have been prevented.
Hart is the foremost expert on defending the homeland and predicted 9-11.

Hart can defend the homeland without violating civil rights.
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 12:46 PM
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15. Hart is the one we missed. Christ, I wish he had the sense to keep his hands to himself
back then; he had a real change until he blew it.

Redstone
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Hart2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 10:43 PM
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47. 20 years later, and there isn't a single woman to make that claim. Ask Carville about the rumors.
Does the quote, purportedly from Newsweek, that Hart could have a problem in the campaign "if he can't keep his pants on," sound like Carville?


Carville had been laid off from Hart's '84 campaign, a protege of Hart media consultant and advisor, Ray Strothers, and working for Clinton.

Clinton had wanted to be Hart's V.P. in '88, but flunked the interview. Clinton hired Strothers after his successful work for Hart's '84 campaign. Strothers was now working for two men who wanted to be President. Strothers pushed Hart to interview Clinton to be his V.P. After the interview, Hart told Strothers that Clinton had "no core" and didn't "believe in anything". (Strothers wrote about this in his book, Falling Up.) Carville would repeat these lines, almost verbatim, but attribute them to Kenneth Starr.

Twenty years later, there still isn't a single woman who has come forward by name to allege she had a sexual relationship with Hart. (Donna Rice always denied her relationship with Hart was sexual, and never made a dime for herself from the notoriety.)

But twenty years later, a mystery still remains: Who was the self described "liberal Democrat" woman who kept calling the Miami Herald to goad them into following Donna Rice to D.C.?

Why hasn't that woman written a book?
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 12:44 PM
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12. Clinton without a doubt
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 12:46 PM
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13. If 9-11 proved nothing else, it proved that we can't be invaded.
This country is too big sitting between two oceans for that to happen. Yes, we got attacked and we rallied forth with practically no leadership. Yet, we do not have Al Queda and the Taliban governing us, nor will we ever. Our problems are that we are being attacked from within and that's what has happened to us since Bush selection 2000.

We need to fight the enemy at home not abroad. Yes, we will probably have Pearl Harbor types of attacks in the future, but no foreign nation will be able to occupy us unless we sell ourselves to them and that seems to be happening as I type this. However, it seems we are going to have to choose between the same patricians in our system who will maintain the status quo and allow the same pigs to keep eating at the trough and selling us to foreign investors.
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 01:12 PM
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33. Good answer.
Also note that once the day (of 9/11) was over it was obvious that that kind of attack would probably never happen again. It took a neocon sympathesiser with some anthrax letters to keep the fear and paranoia going.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 01:14 PM
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38. ...
:thumbsup:
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ShadowLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 12:46 PM
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14. Obama
He wouldn't let us get distracted from attacking our real enemies (the terrorists who attacked us on 9/11) by invading some random nation simply because their leader is hated in America even though they clearly had nothing to do with any attacks on us on US soil.
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Lint Head Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 12:49 PM
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17. Obama. Because he voted against the illegal war in Iraq and
thinks the emphasis should be on Afghanistan, searching for Bin Laden and policing the Taliban. :dem:
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BlackVelvet04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 01:01 PM
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26. dude....
he didn't cast a vote.

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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 01:04 PM
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28. He voted against the war?!?!
wow.
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intheozone Donating Member (839 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 01:04 PM
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29. No, Obama didn't "vote" against the Iraq war, he
wasn't in the Senate in Oct. 2002, he was sitting on the sideline. So, although he has said he would have voted against it (and also has said he doesn't know how he would have voted had he actually had to cast a vote), he didn't have his ass on the line at the time so nobody really knows what he would have done. He might have voted "present" or even have pushed the wrong button and voted yes when he meant to vote no or visa versa (as he did in the state senate a number of times). :shrug:
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 12:49 PM
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18. Neither one, for it would mean he/she had already FAILED, just as Bush FAILED pre-9/11.
Edited on Sat Feb-02-08 12:50 PM by WinkyDink
But this is a good question for a bar bet.
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Nimrod2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 12:50 PM
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19. Simple: Obama, because his judgment proved RIGHT!
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 12:51 PM
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21. Right? How so, when the premise is he would be President and THEN we were attacked?
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FarCenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 12:50 PM
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20. It depends on the meaning of "attacked"?
What do you have in mind?

- anonymous suicide bomber at the Mall of America?

- planes ramming into buildings?

- dirty bomb at the superbowl?

- nuclear cruise missle launched at Washington from a freighter in the Chesapeake?

- Russian first strike?

In the first three cases, I'd prefer Obama. In the last two, I'd prefer that McCain is in the White House.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 12:52 PM
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23. Your last 2 choices = not a Democrat.
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1awake Donating Member (852 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 12:51 PM
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22. I would pick
either one of them in reference to the scenario. I lean Obama, but think Hillary would do fine as well (on this issue). But whoever gets in office, for god sake, pleeeaassee rename the Dept of Homeland Security! I hate the word.. homeland.. makes me think of Nazi Germany of some reason. Better yet.. get rid of that dept all together.
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BlackVelvet04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 12:55 PM
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25. Hillary Clinton. n/t
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 01:02 PM
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27. Hillary Clinton. n/t
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Iwasthere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 01:09 PM
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30. Obama 100%
Wise
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shaniqua6392 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 01:10 PM
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31. Hillary Clinton. n/t
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demo dutch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 01:11 PM
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32. Hillary Clinton. Watch for the October surprise!
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 01:12 PM
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34. Obama
Edited on Sat Feb-02-08 01:12 PM by TexasObserver
His 2002 speech about Iraq reveals a person with a sound understanding of foreign policy, foreign entanglements, and war. Any fool can overreact. It takes real leadership not to.
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demo dutch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 01:13 PM
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35. That's why the resolution vote is a none issue. It's about what's to come!
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newmajority Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 01:14 PM
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36. John McCain SO WE COULD NUKE THEM FORRENER BASTARDS !!!!!1!1!!!!!!!11!!!!!
KILL EM ALL AND LET GOD SORT EM OUT!! :nuke:



















:sarcasm:
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SaveOurDemocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 01:14 PM
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37. Hillary Clinton n/t
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 01:15 PM
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39. It wouldn't matter. Shrub would declare martial law and stay. nt
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Neshanic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 01:19 PM
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40. Hillary
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Azathoth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 01:22 PM
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41. I would want a President who didn't base their actions and decisions on the latest poll numbers
In other words, I would want Obama.
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The Delegates Donating Member (206 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 01:26 PM
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42. As much as this response will be hated
Of the current crop: Mccain, at least initially. But that's only initially. Long term probably Barack.

No matter what you think about the Republicans and Bush, their immediate foreign policy handling of 9/11 was perfect. They went after the right people swiftly.

However, they screwed it up with the Patriot Act, warrantless surveillance, and the Iraq war.

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Jed Dilligan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 01:29 PM
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43. Either one would do fine, I think
It is about number 90000000 on my list of issues facing the country.
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 01:57 PM
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44. Clinton. No doubt.
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 03:15 PM
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45. NEITHER. n/t
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LordJFT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 03:15 PM
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46. Obama
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