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capi888 Donating Member (819 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 01:27 PM
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Think ABOUT Those terrible horrible Clinton years!!!!!
Edited on Sat Feb-02-08 02:07 PM by capi888
This was posted on a blog and i think you may find it interesting. Many of you, younger, or not intuned to what happened in the 90's




I know, I know, they were awful. Just awful. We hear every day as the handful of missteps by the Clinton/Gore administration are endlessly touted, and the rest of what they did is buried as fast as the pundits and the blogs can shovel. But here are some facts:

There was the lowest unemployment rate for three decades, and African Americans had the lowest unemployment rate EVER IN RECORDED HISTORY under the Clinton/Gore administration.

We went from a record deficit to a record surplus.

There was the biggest investment in education that there had been for 30 years.

We had the lowest poverty rate in two decades.

There was the biggest drop in child poverty for three decades as well, and it was sustained.

They vastly expanded HeadStart.

They more than doubled federal funding for childcare.

They expanded Pell grants and college help, including beginning the HOPE scholarships.

FMLA was enacted.

There was the lowest crime rate in 25 years

They gave health care to over 6 million children

Americorp began, allowing students to pay off their education expenses through community service.

There was the highest home ownership rate IN THE ENTIRE HISTORY OF THIS COUNTRY, including the highest minority home ownership rate EVER RECORDED.

We had the longest period of real wage growth since the 60's.

They blocked both offshore oil drilling and oil drilling in the Arctic Refuge.

They enacted Clean Air standards, and drastically reduced auto emissions.

They cleaned up three times as many toxic waste Superfund sites as the previous 2 administrations.

They increased funding for climate change research to 1.7 billion.

Given all of the above, I get a little weary of ignorant blowhards running around jeering at the 90's as "more of the same" and pretty much relegating Bill's administration to the crap pile. No, it wasn't more of the same. It was one of the only bright spots of progressive achievement in this country for 40 years. Did they accomplish all that I hoped? No. Did they compromise more than I would like, and have some failures? Of course.

But they did a pretty good damn job from where I stand.

http://clinton4.nara.gov/WH/Accomplishments/additional.html

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Raven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 01:29 PM
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1. So, you're voting for Bill? n/t
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neutron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 02:56 PM
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37. The Chic for Obama are so Wealthy
Edited on Sat Feb-02-08 02:57 PM by neutron
they don't understand how much the middle class gained
during the Clinton years. And how it felt to lose it all when
Bush took over.

If Obama isn't that great, it won't effect his wealthy backers
one way or another.

Only the working guy loses if Obama doesn't deliver.

That's why the Beer class of the party goes for Hillary.
She works her ass off, and is driven to succeed. For US.
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LadyVT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 04:31 AM
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49. Why are so many rich White men endorsing Obama? Think about it.
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KennedyGuy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 01:30 PM
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2. Those were indeen the good ol days
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capi888 Donating Member (819 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 01:32 PM
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6. Yes they were...
If we ever want to get back on track, its going to take someone with know how...
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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 01:30 PM
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3. But, but, but the blue dress.
He was the most immoral president ever. :sarcasm:
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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 01:31 PM
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4. This has what to do with Hillary? Or is Bill running again.
Hillary is no Bill.
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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 05:21 PM
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60. Re read the original post. It is about when Bill Clinton's was president
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Quakerfriend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 01:31 PM
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5. I'm sick of hearing this from the MSM, they've pushed this
mime strongly over the last couple of days. Especially after Hillary lost to Obama in S.C. Re:

Bill C. turning voters away from Hillary-
"People didn't like the fact that voting for Hillary meant they were getting more of the same left over from the Clinton yrs"

Pure BS!
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capi888 Donating Member (819 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 01:41 PM
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14. Yes indeed
I am not trying to run Obama down at all, I just wanted to put the facts out there in which all the negative Clinton on this blog is uncalled for. They did alot for the future of our children and families. The World loved Americans, and we financially had a surplus budget, the first time in our history. Jobs were plentiful, youngsters of all ethnic backgrouds going to college, home ownership up and reduction of poverty....All while the Repulicans were talking about the blue dress.
We were on our way to secure social security for our children and their children.

I am certainly not here to denagrate Obama, he is great speaker and am sure his intentions are honerable, I really think we need to restruct our gov't , before it completely fails..into depression..and I don't think this time around he can do that as quickly as the hillary can.
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sharp_stick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 01:32 PM
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7. We do forget pretty quickly
Compared to the nightmare this country has endured since 2001 those certainly were golden years.
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cd3dem Donating Member (927 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 01:32 PM
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8. Obama's statement "Doing the Same thing and Expecting Different Results" makes no sense
no, I want the "same" result as before BUSH... when people had jobs and there was a middle class... and pensions were strong... and we were at peace... and we spent less than we took in... what is wrong with that?

where is the judgment in that statement?
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krabigirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 02:33 PM
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24. yep
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 01:32 PM
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9. You for got this stuff:
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Justice Is Comin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 01:38 PM
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11. And you forgot he had
a 65% approval rating after he was impeached !
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NJObamaWoman Donating Member (572 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 01:48 PM
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16. Some Americans are stupid...Look Bush was elected not once but twice.
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capi888 Donating Member (819 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 01:58 PM
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18. Yes I do...
I remember how the Media ragged on Bill Clinton, and Bills numbers kept going up. The whole fidelity issue was all over the pages. However, when he left office 65% approval. Not justifying Bill Clintons fidelity, but it was not a case for impeachment, and most of the people agreed.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 02:48 PM
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32. And Bush had an approval rating near 55% in 2003 and 80% of the country wanted war with Iraq.
Point?
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Justice Is Comin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 03:21 PM
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40. You are going a long way to find a round --house.
There's an old saying, run to the round-house Mary, they can't corner you there.

You would take the Clinton days back in a micro second and you know it.
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ordinaryaveragegirl Donating Member (853 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 10:56 AM
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52. Yes, but...
Chimp lied about something a lot more important than a BJ. He lied us into a war that we'll be paying for years, maybe decades, from now. And his buddies at Blackwater and Halliburton are laughing all the way to the bank.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 09:25 AM
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51. .......and many were running around with their on fire with aids also.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 06:21 PM
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66. And YOU forgot this:
The awesome Clinton record:

longest economic expansion in American history--a record 115 months of economic expansion
More than 22 million new jobs: more than 22 million jobs were created in less than eight years -- the most ever under a single administration
Highest home ownership in American history
Made the Federal government smaller (a feat matched only by Harry Truman; if you like small government, vote Democratic)
Lowest unemployment in 30 years: unemployment dropped from more than 7 percent in 1993 to just 4.0 percent in November 2000; unemployment for African Americans and Hispanics fell to the lowest rates on record, and the rate for women was the lowest in more than 40 years
Largest expansion of college opportunity since the GI Bill
Connected 95 percent of schools to the Internet
Lowest crime rate in 26 years.
Family and Medical Leave Act for 20 million Americans
Smallest welfare rolls in 32 years
Higher incomes at all levels: after falling by nearly $2,000 between 1988 and 1992, the median family's income rose by $6,338, after adjusting for inflation; all income brackets experienced double-digit growth; the bottom 20 percent saw the largest income growth at 16.3 percent
Lowest poverty rate in 20 years: the poverty rate declined from 15.1 percent to 11.8 percent in 1999--the largest six-year drop in poverty in nearly 30 years
Lowest teen birth rate in 60 years
Lowest infant mortality rate in American history
Deactivated more than 1,700 nuclear warheads from the former Soviet Union: efforts of the Clinton-Gore Administration led to the dismantling of more than 1,700 nuclear warheads, 300 launchers and 425 land and submarine based missiles from the former Soviet Union
Paid off $360 billion of the national debt: under Clinton, we were on track to pay off the entire debt by 2009; what a difference a stolen election makes...
Converted the largest budget deficit in American history to the largest surplus
Lowest government spending in three decades
Lowest federal income tax burden in 35 years
More families owned stock than ever before
Most New Jobs Ever Created Under a Single Administration: Republicans really chew the rug when you mention this one, so it's worth repeating constantly
Median Family Income Up $6,000 since 1993
Unemployment at Its Lowest Level in More than 30 Years
Highest Home ownership Rate on Record
7 Million Fewer Americans Living in Poverty
Largest Surplus Ever
Lower Federal Government Spending: after increasing under the previous two administrations, federal government spending as a share of the economy was cut from 22.2 percent in 1992 to 18 percent in 2000--the lowest level since 1966
The Most U.S. Exports Ever: between 1992 and 2000, U.S. exports of goods and services grew by 74 percent, or nearly $500 billion, to top $1 trillion for the first time
Lowest Inflation since the 1960s: inflation was at the lowest rate since the Kennedy Administration, averaging 2.5 percent, down from 4.6 percent during the previous administration
The child poverty rate declined more than 25 percent
The poverty rate for single mothers was the lowest ever
The African American and elderly poverty rates dropped to their lowest level on record
The Hispanic poverty rate dropped to its lowest level since 1979
Lowest Poverty Rate for Single Mothers on Record: under President Clinton, the poverty rate for families with single mothers fell from 46.1 percent in 1993 to 35.7 percent in 1999, the lowest level on record
Smallest Welfare Rolls Since 1969: between January 1993 and September of 1999, the number of welfare recipients dropped by 7.5 billion (a 53 percent decline) to 6.6 million. In comparison, between 1981-1992, the number of welfare recipients increased by 2.5 million (a 22 percent increase) to 13.6 million people
Lowest Federal Income Tax Burden in 35 Years: Federal income taxes as a percentage of income for the typical American family dropped to their lowest level in 35 years
Higher Incomes even after Taxes and Inflation: real after-tax incomes grew by an average of 2.6 percent per year for the lower-income half of taxpayers between 1993 and 1997, while growing by an average of 1.0 percent between 1981 and 1993
AGAINST TERRORISM

# PRESIDENT BILL CLINTON developed the nation's first anti-terrorism policy, and appointed first national coordinator of anti-terrorist efforts.
# Bill Clinton stopped cold the Al Qaeda millennium hijacking and bombing plots.
# Bill Clinton stopped cold a planned attack to kill the Pope.
# Bill Clinton stopped cold a planned attack to blow up 12 U.S. jetliners simultaneously.
# Bill Clinton stopped cold a planned attack to blow up UN Headquarters.
# Bill Clinton stopped cold a planned attack to blow up FBI Headquarters.
# Bill Clinton stopped cold a planned attack to blow up the Israeli Embassy in Washington.
# Bill Clinton stopped cold a planned attack to blow up Boston airport.
# Bill Clinton stopped cold a planned attack to blow up Lincoln and Holland Tunnels in NY.
# Bill Clinton stopped cold a planned attack to blow up the George Washington Bridge.
# Bill Clinton stopped cold a planned attack to blow up the US Embassy in Albania.
# Bill Clinton tried to kill Osama bin Laden and disrupt Al Qaeda through preemptive strikes (efforts denounced by the G.O.P.).
# Bill Clinton brought perpetrators of first World Trade Center bombing and CIA killings to justice.
# Bill Clinton did not blame the Bush I administration for first World Trade Center bombing even though it occurred 38 days after Bush left office. Instead, worked hard, even obsessively -- and successfully -- to stop future terrorist attacks.
# Bill Clinton named the Hart-Rudman commission to report on nature of terrorist threats and major steps to be taken to combat terrorism.
# Bill Clinton sent legislation to Congress to tighten airport security. (Remember, this is before 911) The legislation was defeated by the Republicans because of opposition from the airlines.
# Bill Clinton sent legislation to Congress to allow for better tracking of terrorist funding. It was defeated by Republicans in the Senate because of opposition from banking interests.
# Bill Clinton sent legislation to Congress to add tagents to explosives, to allow for better tracking of explosives used by terrorists. It was defeated by the Republicans because of opposition from the NRA.
# Bill Clinton increased the military budget by an average of 14 per cent, reversing the trend under Bush I.
# Bill Clinton tripled the budget of the FBI for counterterrorism and doubled overall funding for counterterrorism.
# Bill Clinton detected and destroyed cells of Al Qaeda in over 20 countries.
# Bill Clinton created national stockpile of drugs and vaccines including 40 million doses of smallpox vaccine.
# Of Clinton's efforts says Robert Oakley, Reagan Ambassador for Counterterrorism: "Overall, I give them very high marks" and "The only major criticism I have is the obsession with Osama".
# Paul Bremer, current Civilian Administrator of Iraq disagrees slightly with Robert Oakley as he believed the Bill Clinton Administration had "correctly focused on bin Laden.
# Barton Gellman in the Washington Post put it best, "By any measure available, Bill Clinton left office having given greater priority to terrorism than any president before him" and was the "first administration to undertake a systematic anti-terrorist effort".
http://liberalslikechrist.org/about/clinton.html
ON THE ENVIRONMENT
Bill Clinton issued an Executive Order on Environmental Justice to ensure that low-income citizens and minorities do not suffer a disproportionate burden of industrial pollution. Launched pilot projects in low-income communities across the country to redevelop contaminated sites into useable space, create jobs and enhance community development.

President Bill Clinton sought permanent funding of $1.4 billion a year through the Lands Legacy initiative to expand federal efforts to save America's natural treasures and provide significant new resources to states and communities to protect local green spaces and protect ocean and coastal resources. Won $652 million for Lands Legacy in the FY 2000 budget, a 42 percent increase.

Launched effort to protect over 40 million acres of "roadless areas," which include some of America's last wild places. Dramatically improved management of our national forests with an ambitious new science-based agenda that places greater emphasis on recreation, wildlife and water quality, while reforming logging practices to ensure steady, sustainable supplies of timber and jobs. Balanced the preservation of old-growth stands with the economic needs of timber-dependent communities through the Pacific Northwest Forest Plan.

Adopted a uniform tailpipe standard to passenger cars, SUVs and other light-duty trucks, producing cars that are 77 percent cleaner -- and light-duty trucks up to 95 percent cleaner -- than those on the road today. Set new standard to reduce average sulfur levels in gasoline by up to 90 percent. Once fully implemented in 2030, these measures will prevent 43,000 premature deaths and 173,000 cases of childhood respiratory illness each year, and reduce emissions by the equivalent to removing 164 million cars from the road.

# Approved strong new clean air standards for soot and smog that could prevent up to 15,000 premature deaths a year and improve the lives of millions of Americans who suffer from respiratory illnesses. Defending the standards against legal assaults by polluters.

# Accelerating Toxic Waste Cleanups. Completed cleanup at 515 Superfund sites, more than three times as many as the previous two administrations, with cleanup of more than 90 percent of all sites either completed or in progress. Secured $1.4 billion in FY 2000 to continue progress toward cleaning up 900 Superfund sites by 2002.

# Providing Safe Drinking Water: Proposed and signed legislation to strengthen the Safe Drinking Water Act and ensure that our families have healthy clean tap water. Required America's 55,000 water utility companies to provide regular reports to their customers on the quality of their drinking water.

# Established EPA's Drinking Water State Revolving Fund (DWSRF) that provides grants to States to finance priority drinking water projects that meet Clean Water Act mandates. To date, the DWSRFs have provided $1.9 billion in loans to communities.

# Awarded nearly $200 million in Department of Agriculture (USDA) loans and grants for over 100 safe drinking water projects in rural areas of 40 states. USDA grants and loans target rural communities plagued by some of the nation's worst water quality and dependability problems.

# Expanded Safe Drinking Water Act protections to protect 40 million additional Americans in small communities from potentially dangerous microbes, including Cryptosporidium, in their drinking water.

# Ensuring Clean Water. Launched the Clean Water Action Plan to help clean up the 40 percent of America's surveyed waterways still too polluted for fishing and swimming. Secured $3.9 billion since 1998, a 16 percent increase, to help states, communities and landowners in reducing polluted runoff, enhancing natural resource stewardship, improving citizens' right to know, and protecting public health.

# Strengthening Communities' Right to Know. Strengthened the public's right to know about chemicals released into their air and water by partnering with the chemical industry and the environmental community in an effort to provide complete data on the potential health risks of the 2,800 most widely used chemicals. Nearly doubled the number of chemicals that industry must report to communities, while expanding the number of facilities that must report by 30 percent.

# Expanded the community right to know about releases of 27 persistent bio-accumulative toxins (including mercury, dioxin, and PCBs). These highly toxic chemicals are especially risky because they do not break down easily and are known to accumulate in the human body.

# Secured $83 million in FY 2000 for two major new efforts to restore salmon in the Pacific Northwest: $58 million for the Pacific Coastal Salmon Recovery Fund, which provides resources for states and tribes to protect and rebuild salmon stocks; and $25 million to implement the historic Pacific Salmon Treaty with Canada, which established two regional funds to improve fisheries management and enhance bilateral scientific cooperation between the two countries and provides funding to buy back fishing permits in Washington.
# Expanding Wildlife Refuges. Added 57,000 acres, including lands along the last free-flowing section of the Columbia River, to the Saddle Mountain National Wildlife Refuge to protect salmon habitat in Washington.

# Forging Partnerships to Protect Habitat. Completed 255 major Habitat Conservation Plans (HCPs), compared to 14 before the Administration took office, to protect more than 20 million acres of private land and over 170 threatened and endangered species. These voluntary agreements protect habitat while providing landowners the certainty they need to effectively manage their lands.

# Strengthening Protections for Wildlife. Signed legislation that strengthens protections for wildlife by mandating that the most important use of our nation's wildlife refuges is giving refuge to migratory birds and other animals reliant on this rich system of natural habitat.

Protecting our Oceans and Coasts

# Creating Comprehensive Oceans Policy. Directed the development of key recommendations for strengthening federal oceans policy for the 21st century and appointed a high-level task force to oversee the implementation of those recommendations. Convened a National Ocean Conference in June 1998 that brought together government experts, business executives, scientists, environmentalists, elected officials and the public to examine opportunities and challenges in restoring and protecting our ocean resources.

# Strengthening Our National Marine Sanctuaries. Secured a funding increase of over 100% to better support national marine sanctuaries -- homes to coral reefs, kelp forests, humpback whales, and loggerhead turtles. Supporting the five-year Sustainable Seas Expeditions to explore, study and document ways to better protect underwater resources.

# Preserving Coral Reefs. Issued an Executive Order to expand protection of coral reefs and their ecosystems to address issues of coral reef management, expansion of marine protected areas and increased protections for coral reef species.

# Protecting Marine Mammals. Led negotiations resulting in a multilateral agreement to protect dolphins in the eastern tropical Pacific Ocean. Issued new standards to protect the endangered northern right whale from injuries from ships by instituting a first-ever ship reporting requirement in two areas of right whale critical habitat. Fought for creation of the Southern Ocean Whale Sanctuary, an area of more than 12 million square miles off the coast of Antarctica.

# Banning Ocean Dumping of Toxic Waste. Led the world in calling for a global ban on ocean dumping of low-level radioactive waste. The U.S. was the first nuclear power to advocate the ban.

Introduced "Better America Bonds" to generate $10.75 billion in bond authority over five years to preserve open space, improve water quality and clean up abandoned and contaminated properties known as brownfields. Local communities can work together in partnerships with land trust groups, environmentalists, business leaders and others to develop innovative solutions to their community's development challenges.

# Provided leadership critical to successful negotiation of the Kyoto Protocol, which sets strong, realistic targets for reducing greenhouse gas emissions and establishes flexible, market-based mechanisms to achieve them as cost-effectively as possible.

# Investing in Clean Energy Research. Won more than $1 billion in FY 1999 and in FY 2000 for the Climate Change Technology Initiative, a program of clean energy research and development that will save energy and consumers money. Extended the tax credits for wind and biomass energy production through 2001, reducing emissions and reliance on imported oil.

# Growing Clean Energy Technologies. Issued an Executive Order to coordinate federal efforts to spur the development and use of bio-based technologies, which can convert crops, trees and other "biomass" into a vast array of fuels and materials. Set a goal of tripling our use of bioenergy and bioproducts by 2010 to reduce annual greenhouse gas emissions by up to 100 million tons a year -- the equivalent of taking 70 million cars off the road.

# Improving Scientific Understanding. Increased funding for the United States Global Change Research Program to more than $1.7 billion in FY 2000 to provide a sound scientific understanding of both the human and natural forces that influence the Earth's climate system. This record research budget continues strong support for the "Carbon Cycle Initiative" begun last year to improve our understanding of the role of farms, forests, and other natural or managed lands in capturing carbon.

# Energy Efficiency Standards for Appliances. Issued new energy efficiency standards for refrigerators, refrigerator-freezers, freezers and room air conditioners that will save consumers money and reduce emissions of greenhouse gases and dependence on foreign oil. The new standards will cut the average appliance's energy usage by 30 percent and save more than seven quadrillion BTUs of energy over the next 30 years, more than seven times the annual energy consumption of the entire state of Arkansas.

# Promoting federal Energy Efficiency. Issued an Executive Order directing federal agencies to reduce energy use in buildings 35 percent by 2010, reducing annual greenhouse gas emissions by the equivalent of taking 1.7 million cars off the road and saving taxpayers over $750 million a year. Forged new partnerships with industry to develop and promote energy-saving cars, homes and consumer products with the potential to save Americans hundreds of millions of dollars in energy bills and significantly curb greenhouse gas pollution.
http://www.environmentalcaucus.org/gore.html
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NJObamaWoman Donating Member (572 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 01:36 PM
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10. I don't care about what Bill Clinton did. Bill is NOT Hillary!!!
As a voter I grew up during the Clinton years and saw tons of hardship for my family during that time. While Bill may have done alot for the country I still saw tons of minority child being lost in the systems, education in urban area continue to go down the toilet, cost of higher education rose etc. My mom who was a single parent may have been able to find jobs but she had to work 2-3 jobs at times just to bring home a decent check all WITH a college degree to pay for the high cost of living in the state of NJ. Car insurance, property taxes, purchasing of homes etc are all high in our state. Mr. Clinton did not do anything to solve or help these issues in my state. Lets remember people during the 90's car insurance was so damn high that many national insurance companies would put in their ads "Not Available In New Jersey". I just don't think Bill Clinton was all that and I'm tired of being told to look to the past when I'm in the present and living for my future.

Barack Obama is my candidate not Bill Clinton
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 06:51 PM
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73. What a crock 'o' CRAP!
Edited on Sun Feb-03-08 06:52 PM by in_cog_ni_to
The awesome Clinton record:

longest economic expansion in American history--a record 115 months of economic expansion
More than 22 million new jobs: more than 22 million jobs were created in less than eight years -- the most ever under a single administration
Highest home ownership in American history
Made the Federal government smaller (a feat matched only by Harry Truman; if you like small government, vote Democratic)
Lowest unemployment in 30 years: unemployment dropped from more than 7 percent in 1993 to just 4.0 percent in November 2000; unemployment for African Americans and Hispanics fell to the lowest rates on record, and the rate for women was the lowest in more than 40 years
Largest expansion of college opportunity since the GI Bill
Connected 95 percent of schools to the Internet
Lowest crime rate in 26 years.
Family and Medical Leave Act for 20 million Americans
Smallest welfare rolls in 32 years
Higher incomes at all levels: after falling by nearly $2,000 between 1988 and 1992, the median family's income rose by $6,338, after adjusting for inflation; all income brackets experienced double-digit growth; the bottom 20 percent saw the largest income growth at 16.3 percent
Lowest poverty rate in 20 years: the poverty rate declined from 15.1 percent to 11.8 percent in 1999--the largest six-year drop in poverty in nearly 30 years
Lowest teen birth rate in 60 years
Lowest infant mortality rate in American history
Deactivated more than 1,700 nuclear warheads from the former Soviet Union: efforts of the Clinton-Gore Administration led to the dismantling of more than 1,700 nuclear warheads, 300 launchers and 425 land and submarine based missiles from the former Soviet Union
Paid off $360 billion of the national debt: under Clinton, we were on track to pay off the entire debt by 2009; what a difference a stolen election makes...
Converted the largest budget deficit in American history to the largest surplus
Lowest government spending in three decades
Lowest federal income tax burden in 35 years
More families owned stock than ever before
Most New Jobs Ever Created Under a Single Administration: Republicans really chew the rug when you mention this one, so it's worth repeating constantly
Median Family Income Up $6,000 since 1993
Unemployment at Its Lowest Level in More than 30 Years
Highest Home ownership Rate on Record
7 Million Fewer Americans Living in Poverty
Largest Surplus Ever
Lower Federal Government Spending: after increasing under the previous two administrations, federal government spending as a share of the economy was cut from 22.2 percent in 1992 to 18 percent in 2000--the lowest level since 1966
The Most U.S. Exports Ever: between 1992 and 2000, U.S. exports of goods and services grew by 74 percent, or nearly $500 billion, to top $1 trillion for the first time
Lowest Inflation since the 1960s: inflation was at the lowest rate since the Kennedy Administration, averaging 2.5 percent, down from 4.6 percent during the previous administration
The child poverty rate declined more than 25 percent
The poverty rate for single mothers was the lowest ever
The African American and elderly poverty rates dropped to their lowest level on record
The Hispanic poverty rate dropped to its lowest level since 1979
Lowest Poverty Rate for Single Mothers on Record: under President Clinton, the poverty rate for families with single mothers fell from 46.1 percent in 1993 to 35.7 percent in 1999, the lowest level on record
Smallest Welfare Rolls Since 1969: between January 1993 and September of 1999, the number of welfare recipients dropped by 7.5 billion (a 53 percent decline) to 6.6 million. In comparison, between 1981-1992, the number of welfare recipients increased by 2.5 million (a 22 percent increase) to 13.6 million people
Lowest Federal Income Tax Burden in 35 Years: Federal income taxes as a percentage of income for the typical American family dropped to their lowest level in 35 years
Higher Incomes even after Taxes and Inflation: real after-tax incomes grew by an average of 2.6 percent per year for the lower-income half of taxpayers between 1993 and 1997, while growing by an average of 1.0 percent between 1981 and 1993
AGAINST TERRORISM

# PRESIDENT BILL CLINTON developed the nation's first anti-terrorism policy, and appointed first national coordinator of anti-terrorist efforts.
# Bill Clinton stopped cold the Al Qaeda millennium hijacking and bombing plots.
# Bill Clinton stopped cold a planned attack to kill the Pope.
# Bill Clinton stopped cold a planned attack to blow up 12 U.S. jetliners simultaneously.
# Bill Clinton stopped cold a planned attack to blow up UN Headquarters.
# Bill Clinton stopped cold a planned attack to blow up FBI Headquarters.
# Bill Clinton stopped cold a planned attack to blow up the Israeli Embassy in Washington.
# Bill Clinton stopped cold a planned attack to blow up Boston airport.
# Bill Clinton stopped cold a planned attack to blow up Lincoln and Holland Tunnels in NY.
# Bill Clinton stopped cold a planned attack to blow up the George Washington Bridge.
# Bill Clinton stopped cold a planned attack to blow up the US Embassy in Albania.
# Bill Clinton tried to kill Osama bin Laden and disrupt Al Qaeda through preemptive strikes (efforts denounced by the G.O.P.).
# Bill Clinton brought perpetrators of first World Trade Center bombing and CIA killings to justice.
# Bill Clinton did not blame the Bush I administration for first World Trade Center bombing even though it occurred 38 days after Bush left office. Instead, worked hard, even obsessively -- and successfully -- to stop future terrorist attacks.
# Bill Clinton named the Hart-Rudman commission to report on nature of terrorist threats and major steps to be taken to combat terrorism.
# Bill Clinton sent legislation to Congress to tighten airport security. (Remember, this is before 911) The legislation was defeated by the Republicans because of opposition from the airlines.
# Bill Clinton sent legislation to Congress to allow for better tracking of terrorist funding. It was defeated by Republicans in the Senate because of opposition from banking interests.
# Bill Clinton sent legislation to Congress to add tagents to explosives, to allow for better tracking of explosives used by terrorists. It was defeated by the Republicans because of opposition from the NRA.
# Bill Clinton increased the military budget by an average of 14 per cent, reversing the trend under Bush I.
# Bill Clinton tripled the budget of the FBI for counterterrorism and doubled overall funding for counterterrorism.
# Bill Clinton detected and destroyed cells of Al Qaeda in over 20 countries.
# Bill Clinton created national stockpile of drugs and vaccines including 40 million doses of smallpox vaccine.
# Of Clinton's efforts says Robert Oakley, Reagan Ambassador for Counterterrorism: "Overall, I give them very high marks" and "The only major criticism I have is the obsession with Osama".
# Paul Bremer, current Civilian Administrator of Iraq disagrees slightly with Robert Oakley as he believed the Bill Clinton Administration had "correctly focused on bin Laden.
# Barton Gellman in the Washington Post put it best, "By any measure available, Bill Clinton left office having given greater priority to terrorism than any president before him" and was the "first administration to undertake a systematic anti-terrorist effort".
http://liberalslikechrist.org/about/clinton.html
ON THE ENVIRONMENT
Bill Clinton issued an Executive Order on Environmental Justice to ensure that low-income citizens and minorities do not suffer a disproportionate burden of industrial pollution. Launched pilot projects in low-income communities across the country to redevelop contaminated sites into useable space, create jobs and enhance community development.

President Bill Clinton sought permanent funding of $1.4 billion a year through the Lands Legacy initiative to expand federal efforts to save America's natural treasures and provide significant new resources to states and communities to protect local green spaces and protect ocean and coastal resources. Won $652 million for Lands Legacy in the FY 2000 budget, a 42 percent increase.

Launched effort to protect over 40 million acres of "roadless areas," which include some of America's last wild places. Dramatically improved management of our national forests with an ambitious new science-based agenda that places greater emphasis on recreation, wildlife and water quality, while reforming logging practices to ensure steady, sustainable supplies of timber and jobs. Balanced the preservation of old-growth stands with the economic needs of timber-dependent communities through the Pacific Northwest Forest Plan.

Adopted a uniform tailpipe standard to passenger cars, SUVs and other light-duty trucks, producing cars that are 77 percent cleaner -- and light-duty trucks up to 95 percent cleaner -- than those on the road today. Set new standard to reduce average sulfur levels in gasoline by up to 90 percent. Once fully implemented in 2030, these measures will prevent 43,000 premature deaths and 173,000 cases of childhood respiratory illness each year, and reduce emissions by the equivalent to removing 164 million cars from the road.

# Approved strong new clean air standards for soot and smog that could prevent up to 15,000 premature deaths a year and improve the lives of millions of Americans who suffer from respiratory illnesses. Defending the standards against legal assaults by polluters.

# Accelerating Toxic Waste Cleanups. Completed cleanup at 515 Superfund sites, more than three times as many as the previous two administrations, with cleanup of more than 90 percent of all sites either completed or in progress. Secured $1.4 billion in FY 2000 to continue progress toward cleaning up 900 Superfund sites by 2002.

# Providing Safe Drinking Water: Proposed and signed legislation to strengthen the Safe Drinking Water Act and ensure that our families have healthy clean tap water. Required America's 55,000 water utility companies to provide regular reports to their customers on the quality of their drinking water.

# Established EPA's Drinking Water State Revolving Fund (DWSRF) that provides grants to States to finance priority drinking water projects that meet Clean Water Act mandates. To date, the DWSRFs have provided $1.9 billion in loans to communities.

# Awarded nearly $200 million in Department of Agriculture (USDA) loans and grants for over 100 safe drinking water projects in rural areas of 40 states. USDA grants and loans target rural communities plagued by some of the nation's worst water quality and dependability problems.

# Expanded Safe Drinking Water Act protections to protect 40 million additional Americans in small communities from potentially dangerous microbes, including Cryptosporidium, in their drinking water.

# Ensuring Clean Water. Launched the Clean Water Action Plan to help clean up the 40 percent of America's surveyed waterways still too polluted for fishing and swimming. Secured $3.9 billion since 1998, a 16 percent increase, to help states, communities and landowners in reducing polluted runoff, enhancing natural resource stewardship, improving citizens' right to know, and protecting public health.

# Strengthening Communities' Right to Know. Strengthened the public's right to know about chemicals released into their air and water by partnering with the chemical industry and the environmental community in an effort to provide complete data on the potential health risks of the 2,800 most widely used chemicals. Nearly doubled the number of chemicals that industry must report to communities, while expanding the number of facilities that must report by 30 percent.

# Expanded the community right to know about releases of 27 persistent bio-accumulative toxins (including mercury, dioxin, and PCBs). These highly toxic chemicals are especially risky because they do not break down easily and are known to accumulate in the human body.

# Secured $83 million in FY 2000 for two major new efforts to restore salmon in the Pacific Northwest: $58 million for the Pacific Coastal Salmon Recovery Fund, which provides resources for states and tribes to protect and rebuild salmon stocks; and $25 million to implement the historic Pacific Salmon Treaty with Canada, which established two regional funds to improve fisheries management and enhance bilateral scientific cooperation between the two countries and provides funding to buy back fishing permits in Washington.
# Expanding Wildlife Refuges. Added 57,000 acres, including lands along the last free-flowing section of the Columbia River, to the Saddle Mountain National Wildlife Refuge to protect salmon habitat in Washington.

# Forging Partnerships to Protect Habitat. Completed 255 major Habitat Conservation Plans (HCPs), compared to 14 before the Administration took office, to protect more than 20 million acres of private land and over 170 threatened and endangered species. These voluntary agreements protect habitat while providing landowners the certainty they need to effectively manage their lands.

# Strengthening Protections for Wildlife. Signed legislation that strengthens protections for wildlife by mandating that the most important use of our nation's wildlife refuges is giving refuge to migratory birds and other animals reliant on this rich system of natural habitat.

Protecting our Oceans and Coasts

# Creating Comprehensive Oceans Policy. Directed the development of key recommendations for strengthening federal oceans policy for the 21st century and appointed a high-level task force to oversee the implementation of those recommendations. Convened a National Ocean Conference in June 1998 that brought together government experts, business executives, scientists, environmentalists, elected officials and the public to examine opportunities and challenges in restoring and protecting our ocean resources.

# Strengthening Our National Marine Sanctuaries. Secured a funding increase of over 100% to better support national marine sanctuaries -- homes to coral reefs, kelp forests, humpback whales, and loggerhead turtles. Supporting the five-year Sustainable Seas Expeditions to explore, study and document ways to better protect underwater resources.

# Preserving Coral Reefs. Issued an Executive Order to expand protection of coral reefs and their ecosystems to address issues of coral reef management, expansion of marine protected areas and increased protections for coral reef species.

# Protecting Marine Mammals. Led negotiations resulting in a multilateral agreement to protect dolphins in the eastern tropical Pacific Ocean. Issued new standards to protect the endangered northern right whale from injuries from ships by instituting a first-ever ship reporting requirement in two areas of right whale critical habitat. Fought for creation of the Southern Ocean Whale Sanctuary, an area of more than 12 million square miles off the coast of Antarctica.

# Banning Ocean Dumping of Toxic Waste. Led the world in calling for a global ban on ocean dumping of low-level radioactive waste. The U.S. was the first nuclear power to advocate the ban.

Introduced "Better America Bonds" to generate $10.75 billion in bond authority over five years to preserve open space, improve water quality and clean up abandoned and contaminated properties known as brownfields. Local communities can work together in partnerships with land trust groups, environmentalists, business leaders and others to develop innovative solutions to their community's development challenges.

# Provided leadership critical to successful negotiation of the Kyoto Protocol, which sets strong, realistic targets for reducing greenhouse gas emissions and establishes flexible, market-based mechanisms to achieve them as cost-effectively as possible.

# Investing in Clean Energy Research. Won more than $1 billion in FY 1999 and in FY 2000 for the Climate Change Technology Initiative, a program of clean energy research and development that will save energy and consumers money. Extended the tax credits for wind and biomass energy production through 2001, reducing emissions and reliance on imported oil.

# Growing Clean Energy Technologies. Issued an Executive Order to coordinate federal efforts to spur the development and use of bio-based technologies, which can convert crops, trees and other "biomass" into a vast array of fuels and materials. Set a goal of tripling our use of bioenergy and bioproducts by 2010 to reduce annual greenhouse gas emissions by up to 100 million tons a year -- the equivalent of taking 70 million cars off the road.

# Improving Scientific Understanding. Increased funding for the United States Global Change Research Program to more than $1.7 billion in FY 2000 to provide a sound scientific understanding of both the human and natural forces that influence the Earth's climate system. This record research budget continues strong support for the "Carbon Cycle Initiative" begun last year to improve our understanding of the role of farms, forests, and other natural or managed lands in capturing carbon.

# Energy Efficiency Standards for Appliances. Issued new energy efficiency standards for refrigerators, refrigerator-freezers, freezers and room air conditioners that will save consumers money and reduce emissions of greenhouse gases and dependence on foreign oil. The new standards will cut the average appliance's energy usage by 30 percent and save more than seven quadrillion BTUs of energy over the next 30 years, more than seven times the annual energy consumption of the entire state of Arkansas.

# Promoting federal Energy Efficiency. Issued an Executive Order directing federal agencies to reduce energy use in buildings 35 percent by 2010, reducing annual greenhouse gas emissions by the equivalent of taking 1.7 million cars off the road and saving taxpayers over $750 million a year. Forged new partnerships with industry to develop and promote energy-saving cars, homes and consumer products with the potential to save Americans hundreds of millions of dollars in energy bills and significantly curb greenhouse gas pollution.
http://www.environmentalcaucus.org/gore.html
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Jed Dilligan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 01:40 PM
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12. Don't pretend there was no downside
The culture went down the tubes. Mainstream Hollywood movies went from okay to unwatchable. TV degenerated into reality TV. Newspapers declined; cable news and the internet gained ground. Celebrity cults reached a fever pitch. Porn exploded. Hip-hop became unrelentingly violent and misogynistic. Every art form glorified crime and gangsterism. Not surprisingly, unprecedented numbers of young people were sucked into the gang life and the sex industry.

The prison population exploded, and, even though he was the first President of the pot-smoking counterculture generation, Clinton did nothing but ramp up the Drug War insanity. Meanwhile, affirmative action was shot down in many places and minority college enrollment declined. The academic gaps between racial groups, which had been closing for decades, began to widen again. School systems began to fail for males in particular. Now college enrollment is 60% female; if you look at minorities, that number is more like 70%.

The prosperity of the dot-com era did not do anything to reduce homelessness; instead, gentrification destroyed inner-city communities and pushed their residents onto the streets. Highly skilled jobs began leaving the country. The products we bought came increasingly from overseas. Much of the supposed prosperity was actually bought on credit, and now that trend seems to be coming back on us.

Do I blame Clinton for all of that? Not in the least. But I don't recall those times as a picnic, and I certainly don't want them back.
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capi888 Donating Member (819 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 01:47 PM
Response to Reply #12
15. Well I don't remember it that way at all
I don't know where you lived, but people here in Michigan were doing well. However, it would probably depend what state you live in, and who was your Governer..at the time..every state is different. The facts I printed if you go to the site I posted, are the FACTS.

Sorry your world was different...
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Jed Dilligan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 01:56 PM
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17. I guess it makes sense
They just raped California and made things better in smaller states that aren't disenfranchised by the EC.
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GalleryGod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 02:32 PM
Response to Reply #15
23. Just SCREAM facts...that'll do it for me.
Hand in your blue book..

Mika loves your post..NOT!
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AnotherMother4Peace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 01:41 PM
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13. Give me back those Clinton years. Perhaps we'll get a 2fer: Hillary & Bill, wouldn't mind that atall
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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 02:20 PM
Response to Reply #13
19. You must have inhaled.
Hillary is no Bill. Hillary is a DINO, farther to the right than Bill is or ever was. And in any case Hillary has been bought and payment is being made by the big corporations. They expect results.
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capi888 Donating Member (819 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 02:21 PM
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20. Not at all...
You are repeating the RNC talking points...
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GalleryGod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 02:40 PM
Response to Reply #20
26. Here's a DU Talking Point...
NICE post count !


Mika sez: "What Michigan didn't have internet access until this week?"

Post your nice little article right NEXT to HER WAR VOTES ! ( If only Chelsea were a Bill,Jr.)

Speaking of service...Bill Clinton and I share the same birthdate ,August 19th, THUS,
the very same DRAFT LOTTERY #...319 !

I honored my ROTC/Regualr Army Contract. Served in Vietnam with the Air Cavalry.
He joined ROTC then UNjoined.
A slug then...a disengenous slug NOW.
So's his Life partner, the lady in the donna karan pantsuit.
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paulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 06:41 PM
Response to Reply #19
43. prove that she's farther to the right than Bill
don't just say it - lay out some kind of argument.

Yours is the type of anti-Clinton post that makes this board such an unpleasant place. It's just repackaged tripe.
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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 02:45 AM
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46. Why is she supporting the war?
She voted to declare Iranians Terrorists.
Why is she getting so much corporate money? You know of course she was a Goldwater girl.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/05/09/politics/main1600694.shtml
Rupert Murdoch Loves Hillary Clinton
Conservative Media Mogul To Host Fundraiser For Liberal N.Y. Senator

http://www.amconmag.com/2006/2006_03_27/cover.html
Hillary the Hawk
The Democrats’ Athena only differs from Bush on the details.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7142420/
Shifting right, or there already?
Clinton joins conservative Santorum to sound alarm on electronic media effects on children

http://www.kansascity.com/news/nation/story/471884.html
The buzz: Conservative writer Ann Coulter is ‘a Hillary girl now’

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paulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 01:46 PM
Response to Reply #46
55. yeah, ok
that's about what I expected.

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GalleryGod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 02:30 PM
Response to Reply #13
22. The Time Machine was on today...
could've hopped a ride..



IWR VOTE=WRONG.
LEVIN AMENDEMENT VOTE= WRONG
Immigration Wall VOTE= WRONG.



How'd that NAFTA work out?

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VotesForWomen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 03:07 PM
Response to Reply #13
39. yep. nt
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GalleryGod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 02:24 PM
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21. How about 24/7 Cable Nets..going crazy."Crisis in the White House.Televised Depositions
Edited on Sat Feb-02-08 02:28 PM by GalleryGod
The Great old DAZE of the 90's "Is,Is, Is?"
I can do without it...

Big Dawg's NEW office in NYC.

The Ultimate Triangulated Home Office Location......
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TriMetFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 02:36 PM
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25. What the Hell is wrong with you posting something like that??????
Bill was bad, he was worst then Bush. :sarcasm:


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capi888 Donating Member (819 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 02:41 PM
Response to Reply #25
28. LOL ...
I knew I would stir a honets next, but sick of hearing how bad the Clintons were...just a little reminder..that lots of good happened.

Nafta was a bill that had 2 parts, the first one, the R's passed as they wanted it...
The second bill for equal protection for workers in other countries DID NOT pass with the R's control of congress...so that bill wasn't complete. They actually had 2 bills...
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GalleryGod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 02:43 PM
Response to Reply #25
29. Bill was "OK" So much wasted potential. BAD judgement.
Half of Hollywood would've given him a BJ...but,Nooooooooooo
He's got to get some demented piglette...oh,never mind.
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TheDeathadder Donating Member (731 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 02:41 PM
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27. The Clinton years rocked!!
I mean...The Clinton years are going to rock!!
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capi888 Donating Member (819 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 02:43 PM
Response to Reply #27
30. Oh yes..they will
Turn on C-Span...Hillary on....great rally
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GalleryGod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 02:49 PM
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33. Yeah,great...sTILL in "wrapped up" California trying to hold back the Obama Tide
along with the 28 Statewide newspaper endorsements..the $32 million in January AND the $1.9 Million in the first 2 days of February.

Team Hill: "Runnin' On Empty"

I served. Bill? Well we know all about that,don't we.
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desi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 02:53 PM
Response to Reply #30
35. Maxine is kickin' "hope" butt....
we need HELP...not "hope"...Go MAXINE!!!
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GalleryGod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 02:46 PM
Response to Reply #27
31. Hi,there! Only took you 7 years to FIND DU !?
Now THAT rocks........
Glad you made it.
Now WHAT was your point about Rocks?

Willie:"Mika, are the Clinton folks into geology?"
Mika:" Well their 22 state polls are dropping like rocks,if that's what you mean,Willie"
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hell-bent Donating Member (593 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 04:50 PM
Response to Reply #31
57. Are you actually using Willie and Mika as
examples of respected TV journalists? Mika is lovely; however, she is dominated by Joe Scarborough with little to say. Willie is an arrogant, little twit. The only one left on MSNBC that is fair and honest,and not in the Obama camp is Dan Abrams. What was the point of your reply again? Oh, I guess it was your high post count,right?
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TheDeathadder Donating Member (731 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 10:13 PM
Response to Reply #31
79. this is my third profile.
I've been coming here since 2004
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 02:51 PM
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34. The good, old days might have continued were it not for the Clinton era
trade policies. I blame him for many of the shuttered factories and the loss of good paying jobs in favor of service industry jobs. He was a good president, but he didn't walk on water.
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sofa king Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 02:55 PM
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36. I think that it would be a bad idea to hope for that again.
America is ruined, and will remain so for decades. Whoever wins this election will look forward to four years of crisis just to set us up with some sort of recovery. That person will have to stare down an international criminal cartel that controls drug and weapon distribution, a wider intelligence network built largely out of our own nation's, and the Republican party. Poverty, crime, the disappearance of the middle class, war and domestic terrorism will loom, and the government will be riddled with people whose allegiance is no longer to this nation but a tiny subset of it.

The new President will also confront a crisis of temptation, as that person will have the option to take over the reigns as a virtual dictator of this nation, unanswerable to Congress or the law.

All that, of course, is assuming that the criminals in charge now willingly leave the White House, which I think is a big, dangerous assumption.
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Nostradammit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 04:26 PM
Response to Reply #36
41. Kick and recommend this post right here.
That, my friend, is some clear-eyed thinking.


It's sofa king obvious!
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VotesForWomen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 03:06 PM
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38. no question about it, the 'past' would be a vast improvement over the present. nt
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 06:15 PM
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42. Sneer all you want. And run off us poor folk.
What Bill did to welfare moms and children is a CRIME!

Does it matter to you?

He didn't even care enough to track them, so we don't know how many ended up homeless.

We don't know how many died.

Does it matter to you?

As long as everything was fine for YOU, that's all that matters, right?

RIP, Dem party.

:cry:
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 06:42 PM
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44. ...
:hug:
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 06:46 PM
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45. Thank you for caring. I get ever so tired of the ignoring of the suffering of us poor folk!
The soul of the party has died.

:cry:
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 06:56 PM
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74. RIP, Dem Party??? and you're defending OBAMA who wants to bring REPUKES into our party?
The same fucking repukes that have RUINED out country? Do you honestly believe Obama has helped the poor more than Hillary has? Or that he WILL help them more? That's just SAD. That's just WRONG.

Obama has also said he won't investigate these criminal in this administration! You just want them all to go free?

The awesome Clinton record:

longest economic expansion in American history--a record 115 months of economic expansion
More than 22 million new jobs: more than 22 million jobs were created in less than eight years -- the most ever under a single administration
Highest home ownership in American history
Made the Federal government smaller (a feat matched only by Harry Truman; if you like small government, vote Democratic)
Lowest unemployment in 30 years: unemployment dropped from more than 7 percent in 1993 to just 4.0 percent in November 2000; unemployment for African Americans and Hispanics fell to the lowest rates on record, and the rate for women was the lowest in more than 40 years
Largest expansion of college opportunity since the GI Bill
Connected 95 percent of schools to the Internet
Lowest crime rate in 26 years.
Family and Medical Leave Act for 20 million Americans
Smallest welfare rolls in 32 years
Higher incomes at all levels: after falling by nearly $2,000 between 1988 and 1992, the median family's income rose by $6,338, after adjusting for inflation; all income brackets experienced double-digit growth; the bottom 20 percent saw the largest income growth at 16.3 percent
Lowest poverty rate in 20 years: the poverty rate declined from 15.1 percent to 11.8 percent in 1999--the largest six-year drop in poverty in nearly 30 years
Lowest teen birth rate in 60 years
Lowest infant mortality rate in American history
Deactivated more than 1,700 nuclear warheads from the former Soviet Union: efforts of the Clinton-Gore Administration led to the dismantling of more than 1,700 nuclear warheads, 300 launchers and 425 land and submarine based missiles from the former Soviet Union
Paid off $360 billion of the national debt: under Clinton, we were on track to pay off the entire debt by 2009; what a difference a stolen election makes...
Converted the largest budget deficit in American history to the largest surplus
Lowest government spending in three decades
Lowest federal income tax burden in 35 years
More families owned stock than ever before
Most New Jobs Ever Created Under a Single Administration: Republicans really chew the rug when you mention this one, so it's worth repeating constantly
Median Family Income Up $6,000 since 1993
Unemployment at Its Lowest Level in More than 30 Years
Highest Home ownership Rate on Record
7 Million Fewer Americans Living in Poverty
Largest Surplus Ever
Lower Federal Government Spending: after increasing under the previous two administrations, federal government spending as a share of the economy was cut from 22.2 percent in 1992 to 18 percent in 2000--the lowest level since 1966
The Most U.S. Exports Ever: between 1992 and 2000, U.S. exports of goods and services grew by 74 percent, or nearly $500 billion, to top $1 trillion for the first time
Lowest Inflation since the 1960s: inflation was at the lowest rate since the Kennedy Administration, averaging 2.5 percent, down from 4.6 percent during the previous administration
The child poverty rate declined more than 25 percent
The poverty rate for single mothers was the lowest ever
The African American and elderly poverty rates dropped to their lowest level on record
The Hispanic poverty rate dropped to its lowest level since 1979
Lowest Poverty Rate for Single Mothers on Record: under President Clinton, the poverty rate for families with single mothers fell from 46.1 percent in 1993 to 35.7 percent in 1999, the lowest level on record
Smallest Welfare Rolls Since 1969: between January 1993 and September of 1999, the number of welfare recipients dropped by 7.5 billion (a 53 percent decline) to 6.6 million. In comparison, between 1981-1992, the number of welfare recipients increased by 2.5 million (a 22 percent increase) to 13.6 million people
Lowest Federal Income Tax Burden in 35 Years: Federal income taxes as a percentage of income for the typical American family dropped to their lowest level in 35 years
Higher Incomes even after Taxes and Inflation: real after-tax incomes grew by an average of 2.6 percent per year for the lower-income half of taxpayers between 1993 and 1997, while growing by an average of 1.0 percent between 1981 and 1993
AGAINST TERRORISM

# PRESIDENT BILL CLINTON developed the nation's first anti-terrorism policy, and appointed first national coordinator of anti-terrorist efforts.
# Bill Clinton stopped cold the Al Qaeda millennium hijacking and bombing plots.
# Bill Clinton stopped cold a planned attack to kill the Pope.
# Bill Clinton stopped cold a planned attack to blow up 12 U.S. jetliners simultaneously.
# Bill Clinton stopped cold a planned attack to blow up UN Headquarters.
# Bill Clinton stopped cold a planned attack to blow up FBI Headquarters.
# Bill Clinton stopped cold a planned attack to blow up the Israeli Embassy in Washington.
# Bill Clinton stopped cold a planned attack to blow up Boston airport.
# Bill Clinton stopped cold a planned attack to blow up Lincoln and Holland Tunnels in NY.
# Bill Clinton stopped cold a planned attack to blow up the George Washington Bridge.
# Bill Clinton stopped cold a planned attack to blow up the US Embassy in Albania.
# Bill Clinton tried to kill Osama bin Laden and disrupt Al Qaeda through preemptive strikes (efforts denounced by the G.O.P.).
# Bill Clinton brought perpetrators of first World Trade Center bombing and CIA killings to justice.
# Bill Clinton did not blame the Bush I administration for first World Trade Center bombing even though it occurred 38 days after Bush left office. Instead, worked hard, even obsessively -- and successfully -- to stop future terrorist attacks.
# Bill Clinton named the Hart-Rudman commission to report on nature of terrorist threats and major steps to be taken to combat terrorism.
# Bill Clinton sent legislation to Congress to tighten airport security. (Remember, this is before 911) The legislation was defeated by the Republicans because of opposition from the airlines.
# Bill Clinton sent legislation to Congress to allow for better tracking of terrorist funding. It was defeated by Republicans in the Senate because of opposition from banking interests.
# Bill Clinton sent legislation to Congress to add tagents to explosives, to allow for better tracking of explosives used by terrorists. It was defeated by the Republicans because of opposition from the NRA.
# Bill Clinton increased the military budget by an average of 14 per cent, reversing the trend under Bush I.
# Bill Clinton tripled the budget of the FBI for counterterrorism and doubled overall funding for counterterrorism.
# Bill Clinton detected and destroyed cells of Al Qaeda in over 20 countries.
# Bill Clinton created national stockpile of drugs and vaccines including 40 million doses of smallpox vaccine.
# Of Clinton's efforts says Robert Oakley, Reagan Ambassador for Counterterrorism: "Overall, I give them very high marks" and "The only major criticism I have is the obsession with Osama".
# Paul Bremer, current Civilian Administrator of Iraq disagrees slightly with Robert Oakley as he believed the Bill Clinton Administration had "correctly focused on bin Laden.
# Barton Gellman in the Washington Post put it best, "By any measure available, Bill Clinton left office having given greater priority to terrorism than any president before him" and was the "first administration to undertake a systematic anti-terrorist effort".
http://liberalslikechrist.org/about/clinton.html
ON THE ENVIRONMENT
Bill Clinton issued an Executive Order on Environmental Justice to ensure that low-income citizens and minorities do not suffer a disproportionate burden of industrial pollution. Launched pilot projects in low-income communities across the country to redevelop contaminated sites into useable space, create jobs and enhance community development.

President Bill Clinton sought permanent funding of $1.4 billion a year through the Lands Legacy initiative to expand federal efforts to save America's natural treasures and provide significant new resources to states and communities to protect local green spaces and protect ocean and coastal resources. Won $652 million for Lands Legacy in the FY 2000 budget, a 42 percent increase.

Launched effort to protect over 40 million acres of "roadless areas," which include some of America's last wild places. Dramatically improved management of our national forests with an ambitious new science-based agenda that places greater emphasis on recreation, wildlife and water quality, while reforming logging practices to ensure steady, sustainable supplies of timber and jobs. Balanced the preservation of old-growth stands with the economic needs of timber-dependent communities through the Pacific Northwest Forest Plan.

Adopted a uniform tailpipe standard to passenger cars, SUVs and other light-duty trucks, producing cars that are 77 percent cleaner -- and light-duty trucks up to 95 percent cleaner -- than those on the road today. Set new standard to reduce average sulfur levels in gasoline by up to 90 percent. Once fully implemented in 2030, these measures will prevent 43,000 premature deaths and 173,000 cases of childhood respiratory illness each year, and reduce emissions by the equivalent to removing 164 million cars from the road.

# Approved strong new clean air standards for soot and smog that could prevent up to 15,000 premature deaths a year and improve the lives of millions of Americans who suffer from respiratory illnesses. Defending the standards against legal assaults by polluters.

# Accelerating Toxic Waste Cleanups. Completed cleanup at 515 Superfund sites, more than three times as many as the previous two administrations, with cleanup of more than 90 percent of all sites either completed or in progress. Secured $1.4 billion in FY 2000 to continue progress toward cleaning up 900 Superfund sites by 2002.

# Providing Safe Drinking Water: Proposed and signed legislation to strengthen the Safe Drinking Water Act and ensure that our families have healthy clean tap water. Required America's 55,000 water utility companies to provide regular reports to their customers on the quality of their drinking water.

# Established EPA's Drinking Water State Revolving Fund (DWSRF) that provides grants to States to finance priority drinking water projects that meet Clean Water Act mandates. To date, the DWSRFs have provided $1.9 billion in loans to communities.

# Awarded nearly $200 million in Department of Agriculture (USDA) loans and grants for over 100 safe drinking water projects in rural areas of 40 states. USDA grants and loans target rural communities plagued by some of the nation's worst water quality and dependability problems.

# Expanded Safe Drinking Water Act protections to protect 40 million additional Americans in small communities from potentially dangerous microbes, including Cryptosporidium, in their drinking water.

# Ensuring Clean Water. Launched the Clean Water Action Plan to help clean up the 40 percent of America's surveyed waterways still too polluted for fishing and swimming. Secured $3.9 billion since 1998, a 16 percent increase, to help states, communities and landowners in reducing polluted runoff, enhancing natural resource stewardship, improving citizens' right to know, and protecting public health.

# Strengthening Communities' Right to Know. Strengthened the public's right to know about chemicals released into their air and water by partnering with the chemical industry and the environmental community in an effort to provide complete data on the potential health risks of the 2,800 most widely used chemicals. Nearly doubled the number of chemicals that industry must report to communities, while expanding the number of facilities that must report by 30 percent.

# Expanded the community right to know about releases of 27 persistent bio-accumulative toxins (including mercury, dioxin, and PCBs). These highly toxic chemicals are especially risky because they do not break down easily and are known to accumulate in the human body.

# Secured $83 million in FY 2000 for two major new efforts to restore salmon in the Pacific Northwest: $58 million for the Pacific Coastal Salmon Recovery Fund, which provides resources for states and tribes to protect and rebuild salmon stocks; and $25 million to implement the historic Pacific Salmon Treaty with Canada, which established two regional funds to improve fisheries management and enhance bilateral scientific cooperation between the two countries and provides funding to buy back fishing permits in Washington.
# Expanding Wildlife Refuges. Added 57,000 acres, including lands along the last free-flowing section of the Columbia River, to the Saddle Mountain National Wildlife Refuge to protect salmon habitat in Washington.

# Forging Partnerships to Protect Habitat. Completed 255 major Habitat Conservation Plans (HCPs), compared to 14 before the Administration took office, to protect more than 20 million acres of private land and over 170 threatened and endangered species. These voluntary agreements protect habitat while providing landowners the certainty they need to effectively manage their lands.

# Strengthening Protections for Wildlife. Signed legislation that strengthens protections for wildlife by mandating that the most important use of our nation's wildlife refuges is giving refuge to migratory birds and other animals reliant on this rich system of natural habitat.

Protecting our Oceans and Coasts

# Creating Comprehensive Oceans Policy. Directed the development of key recommendations for strengthening federal oceans policy for the 21st century and appointed a high-level task force to oversee the implementation of those recommendations. Convened a National Ocean Conference in June 1998 that brought together government experts, business executives, scientists, environmentalists, elected officials and the public to examine opportunities and challenges in restoring and protecting our ocean resources.

# Strengthening Our National Marine Sanctuaries. Secured a funding increase of over 100% to better support national marine sanctuaries -- homes to coral reefs, kelp forests, humpback whales, and loggerhead turtles. Supporting the five-year Sustainable Seas Expeditions to explore, study and document ways to better protect underwater resources.

# Preserving Coral Reefs. Issued an Executive Order to expand protection of coral reefs and their ecosystems to address issues of coral reef management, expansion of marine protected areas and increased protections for coral reef species.

# Protecting Marine Mammals. Led negotiations resulting in a multilateral agreement to protect dolphins in the eastern tropical Pacific Ocean. Issued new standards to protect the endangered northern right whale from injuries from ships by instituting a first-ever ship reporting requirement in two areas of right whale critical habitat. Fought for creation of the Southern Ocean Whale Sanctuary, an area of more than 12 million square miles off the coast of Antarctica.

# Banning Ocean Dumping of Toxic Waste. Led the world in calling for a global ban on ocean dumping of low-level radioactive waste. The U.S. was the first nuclear power to advocate the ban.

Introduced "Better America Bonds" to generate $10.75 billion in bond authority over five years to preserve open space, improve water quality and clean up abandoned and contaminated properties known as brownfields. Local communities can work together in partnerships with land trust groups, environmentalists, business leaders and others to develop innovative solutions to their community's development challenges.

# Provided leadership critical to successful negotiation of the Kyoto Protocol, which sets strong, realistic targets for reducing greenhouse gas emissions and establishes flexible, market-based mechanisms to achieve them as cost-effectively as possible.

# Investing in Clean Energy Research. Won more than $1 billion in FY 1999 and in FY 2000 for the Climate Change Technology Initiative, a program of clean energy research and development that will save energy and consumers money. Extended the tax credits for wind and biomass energy production through 2001, reducing emissions and reliance on imported oil.

# Growing Clean Energy Technologies. Issued an Executive Order to coordinate federal efforts to spur the development and use of bio-based technologies, which can convert crops, trees and other "biomass" into a vast array of fuels and materials. Set a goal of tripling our use of bioenergy and bioproducts by 2010 to reduce annual greenhouse gas emissions by up to 100 million tons a year -- the equivalent of taking 70 million cars off the road.

# Improving Scientific Understanding. Increased funding for the United States Global Change Research Program to more than $1.7 billion in FY 2000 to provide a sound scientific understanding of both the human and natural forces that influence the Earth's climate system. This record research budget continues strong support for the "Carbon Cycle Initiative" begun last year to improve our understanding of the role of farms, forests, and other natural or managed lands in capturing carbon.

# Energy Efficiency Standards for Appliances. Issued new energy efficiency standards for refrigerators, refrigerator-freezers, freezers and room air conditioners that will save consumers money and reduce emissions of greenhouse gases and dependence on foreign oil. The new standards will cut the average appliance's energy usage by 30 percent and save more than seven quadrillion BTUs of energy over the next 30 years, more than seven times the annual energy consumption of the entire state of Arkansas.

# Promoting federal Energy Efficiency. Issued an Executive Order directing federal agencies to reduce energy use in buildings 35 percent by 2010, reducing annual greenhouse gas emissions by the equivalent of taking 1.7 million cars off the road and saving taxpayers over $750 million a year. Forged new partnerships with industry to develop and promote energy-saving cars, homes and consumer products with the potential to save Americans hundreds of millions of dollars in energy bills and significantly curb greenhouse gas pollution.
http://www.environmentalcaucus.org/gore.html
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LordJFT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 04:08 AM
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47. BC did a lot of good things, no doubt about that
Rwanda was shameful though
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 03:31 PM
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56. Women and children left homeless, suffering, and some died.....
because of his damnable welfare deform, and that was just great?????

:mad:
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LordJFT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 06:15 PM
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64. I said a lot of good things, not everything
so if you're gonna get mad at one of the people that worships him. Though I would disagree with you about his welfare reform, I think it was good for the most part.
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 06:19 PM
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65. GOOD??? More suffering, more deaths? WHEN did that become a Democratic value?
:nuke:
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LordJFT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 06:38 PM
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69. Do you have proof that there was more suffering and death?
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 06:42 PM
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70. Ah, the compassionate response.
Bill gave not one whit for these people, so he didn't even care enough to track them. !!!

Yeah, how's that for Democratic family values???

The stories there are come from annecdotal sources.

So, you can look down your regal nose because he didn't even give two shits to follow up on what he had done to people, or you can care about the people themselves.

Maybe you could ask social workers?
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 07:37 PM
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75. I have to wonder how many women had abrtions because of the "reforms"
If you know you can't get your allotment increased for the next child and you found yourself in an unplanned pregnancy, I believe that many women opted for abortion when they knew they couldn't afford to raise the child. And there wouldn't be much in the way of data since the heads of households knew they couldn't have another child added. And then after a couple of years they were bounced off the rolls anyway.

My opinion, btw, is from having worked in the social services system from 1971 through 1999 in New York City and then in Colorado. So unless you have something more than your gut feeling - don't lecture the rest of us. Your gut tells me nothing. In fact, your response to bobbolink sounds like nothing more than thoughtless and heartless bloviating.
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LordJFT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 08:02 PM
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77. lecture the rest of you? what are you talking about I did no such thing
I got attacked for saying BC did some good things even though I said Rwanda was shameful. After getting attacked, I asked for proof to back up the attacks on welfare reform. Please, I am no fan of the Clintons. I'm just trying to get the facts. The OP is the one that's trying to lecture you.
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ErnestoG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 04:09 AM
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48. yeah, Bill was a great prez. But this is Hillary. Two VERY different people.
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 10:58 AM
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54. True. Only from NY Post to the Nation - they all say Hillary is left of Bill
Michael Tomasky wrote that in a book about her in 2001. I was surprised - but I am starting to see it.
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ErnestoG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 05:22 PM
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61. I'm not concerned about leftism - I'm concerned about her hawkish pro-corpism
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 06:25 PM
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68. OMG!!!! You mean Hillary is a LIBERAL LEFTY?????
How could we ever elect a Loony Lefty?:eyes:
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 09:21 AM
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50. Peace and prosperity - eeeew!
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 06:23 PM
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67. I KNOW! I HATE peace and prosperity! IT SUCKS!
REALLY, REALLY sucks! *sigh* People are so damn stupid sometimes.
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 10:57 AM
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53. Is Bill Clinton running for President?
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 06:49 PM
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72. The OP isn't about Hillary, now is it?
Get with the program. The Clinton years SUCKED SO BAD!

:eyes:

Hillary is more Liberal than Bill. Just so you know. Go ahead and vote for the Right wing of the Democratic Party...see where it gets you.
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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 05:24 PM
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62. OK. Spambot wins. I'll be back when this type of shit ends.
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CONN Donating Member (249 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 04:53 PM
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59. Well put (eom)
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surfermaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 05:25 PM
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63. Right more children with health care than ever before
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 06:44 PM
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71. It is a double edged sword my friend. If Hillary thinks she can win on Bill Clinton's record
if she gets the nomination, I am afriad we will be in for another disappointment

This is today, not yesterday


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Two Americas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 08:02 PM
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76. the argument is self-negating
The argument being proposed here is self-negating.

"Bill Clinton did wonderful things for the people, so the people are wrong if they complain."

The people are the judge of this. If Bill Clinton did such a great job, there wouldn't complaints. In a just and compassionate society, we measure this by what the least among us say, not by what the experts and authority figures say. We listen to real people speaking from the heart, we don't wave statistics and facts and figures at the people. "Let them eat cake" is what is being said here.

This akin to "stop your crying or I'll give you something to cry about."

To say that Clinton did wonderful things, and the fault must therefore lie with those complaining about the conditions under Clinton is to promote the right wing "personal responsibility" and Reagan era bootstrap rugged individualism and "the poor are to blame for their own misery" ideas.

It is an example, not a refutation, of just what is wrong when people use Bill Clinton's professional resume as a career politician to deny and dismiss actual testimony from their fellow citizens.
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 03:03 PM
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80. "stop your crying or I'll give you something to cry about" !! Exactly!
You've hit it right on the head, and shows it for what it is...AUTHORITARIANISM!

Yes, indeedy, there are just as many AUTHORITARIANS in the Dems as in the RW, but they won't ever admit it.

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jeffrey_X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 08:08 PM
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78. What exactly did Hillary have to do with the 90's? Is Bill running again?
Please stop with this "we" crap.
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