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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 10:13 PM
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Where Are All The Young People??
If you are one who has been saying that, and you're now pissing all over the Obama campaign, this 50 year old boomer says FUCK YOU.

Here they are. And they're ready to work for change THEY believe in. The times, they are a changin.

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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 10:14 PM
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1. You tell 'em nt
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neutron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 10:17 PM
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7. Don't Play Martyr. Right Wing MSM Pisses on Clinton
Obama is the little media darling.
And the Republicans LOVE IT!
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jkshaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 10:20 PM
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10. The Republicans love it
When Obama is the little media darling?

Logic?
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bidenista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 10:15 PM
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2. let's hope that if he gets the nom, he stays in fashion
We saw in 2004 what can happen when the young decide their favored candidate isn't quite trendy enough to warrant getting out of bed on election day.
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loveangelc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 10:17 PM
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8. people my age are much more energized for obama than kerry.
i couldnt vote then, but i wanted kerry to win...but honestly it was more out of my anti bush feeling than pro kerry feeling. it's totally opposite. the enthusiasm for obama is actually FOR him.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 10:30 PM
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12. Kerry is an exceptional human being
There's a reason he supports Obama. In fact, you could trust the change Kerry would bring over Barack. Still, I get that young people trust him and are sick of the politics of bickering over crap that young people have settled. I also know this is a great generation, I've seen it for years. You're the Joshua Generation. I wish more of my generation would see it.
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countmyvote4real Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 11:48 PM
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26. You had me with young people. You just lost me with Kerry.
Edited on Sun Feb-03-08 12:11 AM by countmyvote4real
I'm not denying that he has and does some remarkable things in his in public service. His 2004 POTUS candidacy was not his shining hour. BTW, I think the Kerry/Edwards ticket won the popular and electoral vote, but Kerry's reluctance to challenge any falsehood against him was a major disappointment for me.

At this time, I don't feel like the Obama campaign will cave as easily as Kerry's did, but at this time during the 2004 Kerry campaign I didn't feel that either. I thought he was going to use his Vietnam activist/hero truth to lead us out of the * occupation. (Obama has scripted poetry.) Instead, Kerry was posing in various "sportsman" activities while ignoring the blatant lies launched at his true assets. And then there's the Ohio concession. The 2000 Gore excuse was no longer applicable for conceding the election. Our country was much more fragmented and shattered in 2004 than it was in 2000. Gore at least challenged. Kerry conceded without a whimper.

This seems to be an argument for Obama that I have to think twice about. Obama should be thinking twice about it, too. Where is Kerry's support going to be in a recount situation?

For the record, Edwards offered me the most legitimate and personal confidence as an agent to bring about real change to corruption brought to our democracy beginning with the Reagan administration. (Reagan disgusted me then and still does.) Likewise, I am not a fan of dynasties.

Why can't the Clintons just go away? They seem too desperate to be the leaders of the free world in another flavor. The current HRC flavor has been a disappointment to me as the junior senator from NY. And yet, she is much smoother and more articulate than Obama in the pageants.

I am the most undecided that I've ever been.

Thanks.


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jkshaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 10:31 PM
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13. Heavens, loveangelc
People MY age are FOR Obama, and I baby sat the boomers when they were kids! We have a whole coterie here for Obama, and not just my own family, either. I've been watching the crowds at Obama rallies and the number of young people is wonderful, overwhelming, but there are older people, some are downright elderly, and this is wonderful, too. I noticed this and read something about it -- that along with the young people are their grandparents, that there's a gap between them that contain people who worry about experience and traditional politics, that many who are not all-out for Obama's hope and transformational politics come from the inbetweens.

All I can say is that I noticed it in the photographs, and I've read at least two oped pieces about it. Sorry, don't know where I read them. (Elderly, you know.)
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loveangelc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 10:44 PM
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15. I know that there are plenty of elderly people who support Obama :-)
I was just saying that Obama has a lot of young support and we're actually enthusiastic about him, since someone was saying that we may not be :).
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JustinL Donating Member (439 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 01:51 AM
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31. seconded
I'm apparently a bit older than you, but my experience is very similar. My vote for Kerry at age 25 was a vote to get Bush out of the White House. If Clinton wins the nomination, I will certainly vote for her, but it will out of a sense of civic duty more than anything else. If Obama wins, I will be going to the polls in November with enthusiasm.

In fact, although I vote Democratic, I am currently registered as an independent. If the results on Super Tuesday put Obama within striking distance of the nomination, I will immediately change my registration so that I can vote in my first primary election on April 22 (PA).
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Silence Dogood Donating Member (215 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 10:56 PM
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16. Go Bama!
I'm 19 going on 27yrs old. I haven't been to an Obama rally yet. With working three jobs theres very little time left for anything else.

Love the Obama/Travolta pic reminds me when the Dance Fever star was popular. My Aunt has a poster of Travolta in a white polyester suit like Obamas hanging in her FR. Kool!
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 10:15 PM
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3. It does my politics-loving middle-aged heart good to see that!
:patriot:
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 11:00 PM
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17. I doubt it. But it's sad to see the contempt that some have here
for a generation of young people who are getting involved in politics in a big way. They came out in Iowa, and NH wasn't too shabby either. My 21 year old son who worked his butt off for Obama in NH certainly won't be drunk come March 4 and town meeting day. He's been going to town meeting since he was a baby. And he's only missed a couple.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 11:11 PM
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18. It really annoys me
I've said for years that this young generation is different, there's always been a spark to them. So when all these people who have been dissing on young people not getting involved want to turn around and dis on them for getting excited and involved, well it just pisses me off.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 11:21 PM
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22. It's because they're not involved for THEIR candidate
which is both hypocritical and short sighted.
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smalll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 10:17 PM
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5. Nader filled Madison Square Garden in 2000.
Big whoop.
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Tom Strong Donating Member (334 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 10:18 PM
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9. Uber-pwnage. n/t
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 10:17 PM
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6. I think that
the amount of energy and passion that the younger generation is investing in the Obama campaign is a great thing for democracy.
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 11:12 PM
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19. my own kids included -
Edited on Sat Feb-02-08 11:17 PM by FLDem5
I told them since they support him, they need to get out and canvas with me, and they agreed!

I am thinking of a way I can enlist them to fundraise for the GE if Obama gets the nod.

My son actually came home looking odd the other day, and I asked him what was wrong - he told me that when he was talking Obama up on the bus, someone said they didn't want a black President.

I told him - that is disgusting, but that is his reality. You need to take these opportunities to STAND UP and show, not him, but those within earshot, that he is what is wrong with this country, not a person's heritage. I think I got him to understand that you NEVER stay silent in those situations (unless it will endanger your person), because silence = consent. You politely state your view and leave those around you to make up their minds. And most people make the right decision. We even discusses possible things to say, so he could come up with something quick, under pressure.

I love that this campaign has allowed, although it makes me ill that there are a few people around who think like that, such a conversation to pass between us.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 11:15 PM
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21. In my circle
of family and friends, many of the older folks support Clinton, many support Obama, and many have supported Edwards and Kucinich. Among the younger ones, without exception they support Obama.
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 11:22 PM
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23. My mom voted Edwards. But she is now Obama
most people I know are for Obama (that are not too rabid right wing).

Even a couple R friends are hoping to vote for him.
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Kittycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 10:29 PM
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11. Very exciting times for our party!
Gobama!
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caligirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 10:43 PM
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14. Your title is very effective with the photo. So true. 4 votes for Obama from our family.
Edited on Sat Feb-02-08 10:44 PM by caligirl
My sons got me to look at him more closely.
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NJObamaWoman Donating Member (572 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 11:13 PM
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20. I'll be in the crowd on Monday in Jersey. I'm so excited about voting
in my first primary.
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 11:24 PM
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24. This 50 year old boomer agrees! K&R, Yes We Can !
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Faygo Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 11:07 AM
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35. 56, and you betcha
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kid a Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 11:25 PM
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25. 43 here - been canvasing all day for obama - old, young, we are all here!!!
plus over half of the edwards supporters i talked to were voting obama tuesday - thats in burbank
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RoadRage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 11:52 PM
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27. 30 year old here..
and caucusing for Obama on Feb. 9th in Nebraskas FIRST caucus ever. Taking my 35 year old husband, 9 friends (aged 23 - 38) and my mom & step dad (59 & 62) with us. All for Obama.. whoo hoo!
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UndergroundEcoHound Donating Member (33 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 12:01 AM
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28. Amen...
The condescension put forth by many HRC supporters is outright disgusting. I've seen young voters referred to as "simple minded" and many other various forms of stupid. The attitude that new voters should just fall into line and that just because they have a different viewpoint must mean that they are ignorant is preposterous and reminds me of the other party.
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wheresthemind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 12:02 AM
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29. From a 21 year old: thank you
I've been organizing young people across the country since 2006 and I used to post here when we'd see something great happen. Then I realized there would be more folks here who would rather piss on you then congratulate you. So thank you.
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 12:41 AM
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30. Inspirational K&R n/t
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 01:53 AM
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32. The "I'm old and don't own an iPod" cranks
want young adults to vote but not to have opinions.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 02:02 AM
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33. iPod?
Honey I can barely work the cell phone. lol.

I still know greatness when I see it though!

:hi:
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 11:05 AM
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34. Reference:
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