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usregimechange (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-03-08 12:50 AM Original message |
Barack Obama Champions Gay Rights on the Campaign Trail |
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JI7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-03-08 12:53 AM Response to Original message |
1. there were a lot of gays at the Obama house event i went to today |
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usregimechange (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-03-08 12:55 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. I just can't believe what some folks here are doing to this progressive leader |
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ForRusty (72 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-03-08 12:56 AM Response to Reply #2 |
3. What do you expect? |
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usregimechange (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-03-08 12:57 AM Response to Reply #3 |
5. Yes, Jesus ate with the tax collector as well, look at his record |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-03-08 12:59 AM Response to Reply #5 |
7. Yet 0bama condemned Don Imus. Said he should lose his show and that he would never |
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usregimechange (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-03-08 01:06 AM Response to Reply #7 |
11. Stop the swift boat bullshit and deal with his lifetime record above. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-03-08 01:08 AM Response to Reply #11 |
15. It's swiftboating to call him on things he's done. Since you don't give a shit about gay |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-03-08 01:10 AM Response to Reply #15 |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-03-08 01:12 AM Response to Reply #17 |
20. I don't care what you think your record is. When it's your rights, your life, your family on the |
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usregimechange (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-03-08 01:19 AM Response to Reply #20 |
25. What makes you so certain it isn't? Did you use a stereotype or assumption about my sexual oreintat |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-03-08 01:21 AM Response to Reply #25 |
26. Your statement that your record is amost as long as 0bama's. |
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usregimechange (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-03-08 01:25 AM Response to Reply #26 |
28. Are you saying that gays should not work on equal rights? |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-03-08 01:26 AM Response to Reply #28 |
30. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA For you it's just an "issue". |
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usregimechange (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-03-08 01:33 AM Response to Reply #30 |
38. I would think that you would support work on equal rights generally. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-03-08 01:34 AM Original message |
You seem to be having a hard time following the subthread. NT |
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usregimechange (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-03-08 01:35 AM Response to Original message |
43. What is that, you use of stereotypes and criticism of work on equal rights? |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-03-08 01:36 AM Response to Reply #43 |
45. You're off on an unrelated tanget. Let's try this: |
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usregimechange (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-03-08 01:37 AM Response to Reply #45 |
46. I am a minority and I will be damned if I will help you play political games with equal rights |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-03-08 01:41 AM Response to Reply #46 |
50. How would you feel about Hillary using a KKK member to emcee a rally for her? |
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usregimechange (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-03-08 01:47 AM Response to Reply #50 |
55. Quit the political games. Obama did not select this person because of past ignorant comments |
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hulklogan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-03-08 01:50 AM Response to Reply #55 |
56. You're right, he chose McClurkin despite his past homophobic comments |
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usregimechange (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-03-08 01:53 AM Response to Reply #56 |
59. If he was seeking the hate vote, why on earth would he invite a gay minister? |
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hulklogan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-03-08 01:55 AM Response to Reply #59 |
61. A feeble attempt to cover his ass after the GLBT community took him to task |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-03-08 01:51 AM Response to Reply #55 |
58. It as 0bama's poliical game - not mine. NT |
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usregimechange (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-03-08 01:54 AM Response to Reply #58 |
60. Nope, your using one distortion of one action and ignoring a life time progressive pro-gay record |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-03-08 01:56 AM Response to Reply #60 |
63. You're trying to score political points. I'm protecting my rights and my family and friends. |
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usregimechange (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-03-08 02:01 AM Response to Reply #63 |
65. If you cared about equal right you wouldn't use stereotypes to identify "real GLBT people" |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-03-08 02:03 AM Response to Reply #65 |
67. You don't care about equal rights whn push comes to shove. Thanks. NT |
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usregimechange (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-03-08 02:04 AM Response to Reply #67 |
69. And appreantly you would say anything, like your candidate, to win. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-03-08 02:06 AM Response to Reply #69 |
70. I've told the truth. You don't like it, your problem. NT |
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NMMNG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-03-08 02:30 AM Response to Reply #55 |
79. What black civil rights leader? |
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usregimechange (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-03-08 02:31 AM Response to Reply #79 |
80. self-delete |
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NMMNG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-03-08 02:36 AM Response to Reply #80 |
82. Can you read? |
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usregimechange (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-03-08 02:38 AM Response to Reply #82 |
83. I am deleting my response because I am sleepy and I think I did not understand what you were saying |
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Avalux (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-03-08 12:56 AM Response to Reply #2 |
4. Obama! |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-03-08 12:58 AM Response to Reply #2 |
6. What would you do if he used a KKK member to MC his event? |
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usregimechange (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-03-08 12:59 AM Response to Reply #6 |
8. Go ahead and cite your slime and lets discuss it, will you discuss his life time record/reality? |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-03-08 01:01 AM Response to Reply #8 |
9. His record includes giving a lying bigot a platform. |
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usregimechange (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-03-08 01:05 AM Response to Reply #9 |
10. Was that right after the openly gay minister, at the same concert? |
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ErnestoG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-03-08 01:07 AM Response to Reply #10 |
12. Hehe, don't know why you bother. Obama haters dont need truth. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-03-08 01:07 AM Response to Reply #10 |
13. Don't know. Doesn't matter. When 0bama treats anti-gay bigotry the way he treats racial bigotry |
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ErnestoG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-03-08 01:08 AM Response to Reply #13 |
14. "Dunno". Operative term here. |
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usregimechange (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-03-08 01:11 AM Response to Reply #13 |
18. It apears that his record has him doing for years, that very thing |
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usregimechange (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-03-08 01:08 AM Response to Reply #9 |
16. Really what did he say about gays at any Obama event? |
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usregimechange (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-03-08 01:12 AM Response to Reply #16 |
19. I am waiting... |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-03-08 01:13 AM Response to Reply #16 |
21. What did who say? McClurkin? |
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usregimechange (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-03-08 01:15 AM Response to Reply #21 |
22. Yes, you said he gave him a platform, what did he say? |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-03-08 01:18 AM Response to Reply #22 |
23. Here you go |
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usregimechange (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-03-08 01:23 AM Response to Reply #23 |
27. I don't see anything he said that was homophobic at any Obama event |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-03-08 01:25 AM Response to Reply #27 |
29. 0bama was asked to not give a platform for this shit: |
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usregimechange (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-03-08 01:30 AM Response to Reply #29 |
34. You right about it's setting. Judging from Obama's decisively pro-gay record what... |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-03-08 01:31 AM Response to Reply #34 |
36. What I think this means 0bama is: someone willing to pander to anti gay bigots for votes, |
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usregimechange (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-03-08 01:34 AM Response to Reply #36 |
40. Who was he "pandering" to when he invited an openly gay minister to the same event? |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-03-08 01:34 AM Response to Reply #40 |
42. I don't know - you tell me. |
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usregimechange (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-03-08 01:36 AM Response to Reply #42 |
44. It apears that such an action is a message about what he believes in |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-03-08 01:37 AM Response to Reply #44 |
47. Looks like trying to have it both ways without having to come down on one side of the matter. |
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usregimechange (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-03-08 01:41 AM Response to Reply #47 |
51. His record and everything he has ever done tell people who honor the truth otherwise |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-03-08 01:42 AM Response to Reply #51 |
53. "Everything". Except scoring cheap political points at the expense of gays. NT |
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usregimechange (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-03-08 01:50 AM Response to Reply #53 |
57. Political points that he was also scoring when he invited an openly gay minister to the same event? |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-03-08 01:57 AM Response to Reply #57 |
64. Doesn't excuse the bigot. Now answer me: Would you be okay with Hillary using a KKK member |
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usregimechange (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-03-08 02:02 AM Response to Reply #64 |
66. I answered the same question above and you even responded to it |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-03-08 02:04 AM Response to Reply #66 |
68. No, you evaded it. If Hillary used a KKK emcee at a rally would you be fine with it |
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usregimechange (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-03-08 02:08 AM Response to Reply #68 |
72. I don't think fire puts out a fire, it isn’t an effective remedy, engagement and education is |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-03-08 02:10 AM Response to Reply #72 |
73. You still refuse to answer the question. Predictable. NT |
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usregimechange (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-03-08 02:14 AM Response to Reply #73 |
74. If you shopped at the mall with a pedohile and didn't ask him to leave the store |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-03-08 02:15 AM Response to Reply #74 |
75. You answer my question and I'll answer yours. (Though we know you never will.) |
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usregimechange (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-03-08 02:20 AM Response to Reply #75 |
77. If Clinton invited a KKK member for the purpose of speaking about hate who was not better known in |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-03-08 02:23 AM Response to Reply #77 |
78. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA way to cover your double-standard loving ass. |
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usregimechange (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-03-08 01:31 AM Response to Reply #29 |
35. He also gave a the same platform for an openly gay minister |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-03-08 01:33 AM Response to Reply #35 |
37. So what? Is that supposed to justify McClurkin? You may not realize it, but these "ex gay" |
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usregimechange (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-03-08 01:40 AM Response to Reply #37 |
49. You may not realize it but people who try to slime progressive leaders do as well |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-03-08 01:42 AM Response to Reply #49 |
52. If telling the truth about 0bama's choices is "sliming" him, it points to poor choices |
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hulklogan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-03-08 01:44 AM Response to Reply #49 |
54. So now people who disagree with Obama's campaign tactics are responsible for |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-03-08 01:26 AM Response to Reply #6 |
31. No Obamite can honestly acknowledge this |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-03-08 01:19 AM Response to Original message |
24. It seems for many gay people, Obama has a lot of work to do healing the wounds |
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magatte (323 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-03-08 01:28 AM Response to Reply #24 |
32. If you mean "for many gay people ON D.U., rabidly supporting Hillary Clinton", then yes... |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-03-08 01:29 AM Response to Reply #32 |
33. Hey, Magot, I'm supporting Clinton BECAUSE of what 0bama did. Not the reverse. |
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usregimechange (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-03-08 02:16 AM Response to Reply #32 |
76. Bingo |
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Tektonik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-03-08 01:34 AM Response to Original message |
39. That's nice |
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ForRusty (72 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-03-08 01:34 AM Response to Original message |
41. Nope. Caucusing for Hillary. He doesn't get my vote. nt |
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hulklogan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-03-08 01:38 AM Response to Original message |
48. So one clause of one sentence in one speech is supposed to make it all better? |
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ForRusty (72 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-03-08 02:08 AM Response to Reply #48 |
71. I agree... |
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usregimechange (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-03-08 02:32 AM Response to Reply #48 |
81. The article goes on to cite a lifetime of work on equal rights |
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David Zephyr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-03-08 01:55 AM Response to Original message |
62. Gay and in the trenches since 1969 for our rights and proudly supporting Obama. |
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usregimechange (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-03-08 02:41 AM Response to Reply #62 |
84. Ever since Stonewall, thank you for commenting. |
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David Zephyr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-03-08 02:58 AM Response to Reply #84 |
85. Well, I really got active in 1970 here in Los Angeles. |
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usregimechange (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-03-08 04:24 AM Response to Reply #85 |
86. It reminds me of one of my favorite MLK quotes: |
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