Utah Poll: Big Lead For Obama - Obama 53, Clinton 29

[MadBadger]

And while Democrats across the nation are split over Sens. Hillary Clinton, D-N.Y., and Barack Obama, D-Ill., to be their party's presidential nominee, Utah Democrats are nearly two-to-one in favor of Obama, a Deseret Morning News/KSL-TV survey finished Friday found.

Obama leads the "most likely to vote" Democrats 53-29 percent over Clinton.

http://deseretnews.com/article/1,5143,695249479,00.html

[Thrill]

1. Interesting....Isn't Utah much like Iowa?

[neutron]

55. I think Utah is right wing

And the right wing loves soft marks like GW Bush

[neutron]

59. They don't mind Radioactive Drinking water

I guess
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/03/us/politics/03exelon.html?em&ex=1202101200&en=f2853a7f59384438&ei=5087%0A

[cali]

60. Yeah, Salt Lake City is so right wing that they elected Rocky Anderson

as mayor- and there isn't a more LEFT wing politician in the country, genius.

You really do need a new diaper. You're clearly shitting all over yourself.

[Radical Activist]

63. Utah Democrats are very liberal

That's how it is in most states where Republicans dominate.

[Barack_America]

2. I thought that Utah was strongly in Clinton territory?

Judging from that odds-tracking site that HughMoran posted.

What the fuck is going on here?

The shifts that we're seeing are almost too good to be true. This is freaking amazing.

[book_worm]

3. these smaller states I think will break for Obama: Utah, Idaho, Kansas, ND, SD

and they are important becuz he has paid attention to them and while they aren't huge in delegates if Obama wins big in them they will add up.

[Quixote1818]

6. I think New Mexico will be close too

though the heavy Hispanic vote may ultimately put Hillary over the top here.

[Alexander]

56. Obama may also win Arizona.

A recent poll here put him 2 points behind Hillary, with many undecided voters.

[ErnestoG]

4. That's my state..WOOOHOOO!!

[JackORoses]

5. and a good day to you, sir

:)

[usregimechange]

7. Not many liberals there but Obama's got em

[NJSecularist]

8. Obama's small state strategy seems to be working

If he can win the Idahos and the Delawares and the Utah's and the North Dakotas and the Kansas's by a wide margin, he can bridge the gap in other more delegate rich states in which Hillary will likely win.

[book_worm]

12. I think you're right

and he will also win convincingly in two other states: Illinois and Georgia.

[Colobo]

9. GO UTAH! GOBAMA!

[Drunken Irishman]

10. Damn you, THIS IS MY STATE AND I WANTED TO POST THIS POLL!

:P

[NJSecularist]

11. Keep in mind that Utah's black population is only 1% of their total vote

So if he wins this state by a decisive margin, it says alot about his candidacy and that he's not just a "black candidate".

[jackson_dem]

13. Obama does best in the most conservative states

Look at the most conservative states outside the South and Obama is doing very well there. The South is different because of the a particular dynamic there that apparently doesn't exist elsewhere. In the other right-wing states Obama is dominating. Where does Clinton do best? Blue states.

[gasoline highway]

14. YEAH HES TOTALLY A REPUBLICAN PlanT!!!

MiTT RomNEY &&& GEORGE BUSH <3'd EACHOTHER && McCAIN and they said LETS PUT A PLANT ON THE DEM SIDE

SO THEY RESEARCHED @ DU and CONCLUSIVELY SAID


LETS PLANT BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA WOOOOO

hahahah

[ErnestoG]

16. Havin fun with the "Hussein" thing aren't you, Coulter?

[gasoline highway]

20. Did you actually think my post was anything but saracasm?

I was just poking fun at some of the Barry haters on this forum...

[MadBadger]

21. Hey!! Dont insult Coulter...Shes a dem now, remember?

[ErnestoG]

26. Yeah, she's a Hillary girl now.

[jackson_dem]

22. Um that goes to the Obama campaign's argument about electability

I thought an Obamite would know a part of their Super Tuesday strategy is to win in red states and then argue afterwards that this proves Obama can transform the electoral map.

I love how some Obamites think we should ignore any political data that doesn't come straight from an Obama campaign memo or a ProSense thread.

Read this thread by an Obamite. http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4362358

[TheDonkey]

28. Will Obama switch parties if he gets to the WH

and appoint Dick Chenney as Ruler of Congress???????? Oooh Noooez!1!!

[TeamJordan23]

15. So does that make the Dems in red states any less Democratic? nm

[ErnestoG]

18. Unbelievable, isn't it.

[jackson_dem]

23. Usually they are more conservative than those in California or New York

Again, though, it goes back to Obama's argument about electability. Obamites should be embracing this, not running from it. Oh well. They will embrace it next week when the Obama campaign, with much justification, uses it as their post-Super Tuesday talking point.

[Thrill]

17. Thats because she doesn't appeal to Independents

You better realize it. Because thats whats going to sink her in the General election.

[jackson_dem]

24. That does concern me

I had two indies I ran into the other day. Both said they "hated" her. :shrug:

[Thrill]

30. It should

You can't have a fired up Republican base and a huge majority of Independents vote for McCain.

I don;t think Republicans like McCain much, the only thing that could rally them behind him is Hillary

[ErnestoG]

25. She appeals to DLC, over 50 Dems

And frankly, that is not what I want to see as the future of the Democratic Party.

[jackson_dem]

31. Obama appeals best to the DLC breed of Democrats

That is why he does best in states which have the highest proportion of DLC kind of Democrats.

[ErnestoG]

37. If you smoke enough dope, I suppose that would be true

[jackson_dem]

50. Obama isn't doing the best in the states with the highest proportion of DLC kind of Democrats?

Speaking of smoking dope...

[ErnestoG]

64. No, he's doing well in Utah which has a shrinking number of DLC Dems.

Math much?

[Drunken Irishman]

42. Remember, it was Utah Democrats who elected Rocky Anderson.

[ErnestoG]

66. Yes, and mostly New Dems, not DLCers. I worked on one of Rocky's campaigns.

He is a real smart guy and not too friendly with the old guard Dems. We will miss him, he was the best mayor we ever had.

[cali]

62. Please explain his overwhelming popularity here in the most liberal

state in the country. If there's one thing Vermont does NOT have, it's a significant number of DLC dems. He's posed to do very well in CT according to polls. And NJ. And DE. Your speculation is pure bullshit.

[MadBadger]

19. Except in places like CA, apparently she is doing well with the moderates and conservatives

He wins Independents and Liberals.

[Tarheel_Dem]

29. He's really kicking ass in the Bay Area, which really surprises the hell

outta me. Some of the GLBT (or at least they say they are) members here have continually tried to stir up animosity against Obama. But I guess it's true, DU is not representative of the real world.

[ErnestoG]

39. Don't confuse the Gay cadre here on DU as a good random sample of the nation....

My gay friends here in Utah are almost completely for Obama.

[David Zephyr]

46. Most all of my gay friends here locally or for Obama.

Not all, but most. The DU's not representative of the GLBT community nationally.

[ErnestoG]

54. That doesn't surprise me. And you are rght about the "cadre" here.

I remember the Russian Revolution, and the "bolsheviks". They actually were far from a majority, yet they called themselves the Bolsheviks (means Majority) and were the loudest so they came OFF as the majority. It's a really clever play, but untrue.

[Drunken Irishman]

32. Actually, the new SF poll that has Obama down 2 shows him leading among liberals.

It's Clinton who wins the moderate and conservative vote in California.

Obama wins indies and liberals.

[MadBadger]

35. Isnt that what I said?

[Drunken Irishman]

36. I thought you meant EXCEPT in California, she is doing well with moderates and conservatives.

Meaning that in California she is doing well with liberals.

[cali]

61. codswallop. I can guarantee he'll win huge in Vermont

You want to try and tell me Vermont is conservative? What nonsense you like to prattle.

(In Vermont in 2007, Obama raised $400,000 to Hill's $47,000)

[TheDonkey]

27. I would NOT expect that. Wow, very interesting

to see Utah rally for Obama. Good show!

[David Zephyr]

33. Still another Oh My God reaction! Thank you hnmnf.

:hi:

[MadBadger]

34. Don't Thank me...Thank Axelrod.

[David Zephyr]

40. Well, that's for sure.

But I do appreciate you bringing the news here Saturday night.

And K&R for this news.

[AtomicKitten]

38. Utah? Oh, hell yes.

Yes, we can.

[ErnestoG]

41. If Obama can do this in friggin Utah, imagine what his appeal will be to moderate Dems

across the nation.

He has "landslide" written all over him.

[AtomicKitten]

45. Believe it.

[jackson_dem]

51. Upthread you said Utah type moderate (DLC) Democrats prefer Hillary

Now they prefer Obama? What is your position?

[ErnestoG]

57. Yup which means, praise be, that DLC Dems in Utah are diminshing rapidly.

[aquart]

43. Ah, the state known for its wonderful treatment of women.

Why did anyone think there was a vote for Hillary here?

[MadBadger]

44. Booooo

[book_worm]

47. hey aquart, they don't have a great record on black folks either (I mean used to)

but Utah has a strong liberal democratic base and a great mayor in SLC in Rocky.

[ErnestoG]

58. The Utah legislature has two openly lesbian legislators. How many are in your state?

Think before typing. It helps.

[Radical Activist]

65. It was only the second place in America to give women voting rights.

And the first state to elected a woman to the State Senate.

[JustinL]

48. check out the Republican side

Romney's leading McMain 84-4.:wow:

[book_worm]

49. Mitt will get all the delegates from Utah.

Looks like Mittens will win at the least Utah and MA on tuesday.

[Thrill]

52. K&R

[Proud2BAmurkin]

53. so Obama got 5 of the Utah democrats and Clinton got 3.

[gmudem]

67. Apparently you're not familiar with Salt Lake City

But you're obviously not too familiar with many facts.