Hillary will garnish wages? That's a low blow right from the Bush playbook

[UALRBSofL]

Evidently someone is taking something and doing the switcharoo and is trying to bash her.

[halobeam]

1. what are you referring to?

where did you see this?

[Avalux]

2. She said it on TV this morning. I heard her.

As a healthcare worker, I disagree strongly with this tactic. It's not the answer to our healthcare dilemma.

[UALRBSofL]

4. Since I didn't see the interview I would think

She didn't say she was going to garnish wages but whatever she said I'm sure it is twisted by media.

[stevietheman]

8. She said that wage garnishment was an option.

I heard it with my own ears on 'This Week' on ABC this morning. Check out the transcript when it appears on the ABC website.

[hiaasenrocks]

15. He doesn't care that she said it. Four people here have told him that she

said it this morning on "This Week" and, despite the fact that it was HER sitting there saying it, he's blaming "the media." Brilliant, just brilliant.

But, see, the way Hillary operates, she'll say something different later today or tomorrow and they will quote that and praise her to no end.

[Avalux]

13. This wasn't a reporter twisting her words; she said it. n/t

[City Lights]

25. You didn't see the interview, but you're sure HRC didn't say what others

heard her say. It's the media and others twisting her words. :tinfoilhat: time for you.

[ugdude]

3. She fucking SAID IT HERSELF

OMG, so even you find it unbelievable that a candidate would be so careless as to garnish wages?

Get on the Obama train then, welcome to have you.

[Abacus]

37. On of the other "options"

espoused by one of her campaign surrogates was to take away the standard income tax deductible.

[hiaasenrocks]

5. Bullshit. She said that's an option.

She said it on Stephanolpoloupoupolous's show this morning.

"Will you garnish wages?"

"George, there will be an enforcement mechanism, whether it's that or something else."

I just heard it five minutes ago. Check the transcript when it comes out if you don't believe me.

[WinkyDink]

11. "An enforcement mechanism"? Oh, man; I do NOT like the sound fo that.

What's her problem? Some people are simply TOO POOR to buy health insurance---and YET not Medicaid-eligible.

She has health-care ARSE-BACKWARDS.

[stevietheman]

14. If she says it's an option, that means she's open to the idea.

That's enough for me. I don't want any candidate who is open to that idea.

[mrreowwr_kittty]

6. George Stephanopoulus nailed her

After she hemmed and hawed, she finally admitted that she would "automatically enroll" people. What does that mean?

Then he continued to press her for an answer and she refused to state what her enforcement method will be. She did mention "automatic enrollment" and "going after your wages". Before she bashed Obama some more for "distorting my positions."

Yet another of her non-answers.

[zulchzulu]

17. George did a great job exposing her usual blah blah blah talking point robotalk

She never actually answered his simple question THREE TIMES.

:rofl:

[ugdude]

7. Hillarys plans are so ludicrous that even her supporters dont believe it comes from her

[UALRBSofL]

9. No, we just know how the Obama media twists things

That's what I know

[hiaasenrocks]

10. And they will STILL vote for her. Amazing. She could stand in their

living room and tell them something and they'd still deny she said it. Maybe that's a good move, since she says different things to different audiences on different days. She's a shameless liar.

[UALRBSofL]

20. Is that like Obama's present vote

8 times on CHOICE when he states he's for women's choice? Is that like his gun control policy but states everyone needs a gun in front of a audience of hunters? He's the liar.

[mrreowwr_kittty]

22. This lie about Obama's choice record has been debunked repeatedly

Yet Clinton supporters still bring it up, which may say something about their ability to comprehend basic explanations.

The lie worked on NH voters but no one's buying it anymore.

[hiaasenrocks]

26. You'll have to ask an Obama supporter.

But I do find it funny that now that you've been called on your bullshit Hillary talking points you are reduced to changing the topic.

Typical Hillary supporter -- don't think, just vote.

[zulchzulu]

12. She never answered the question about garnishing wages (three times asked)

This is going to be BIG news.

If I were in the Hillaryworld campaign, expect some MAJOR incoming...

[Bad Thoughts]

16. Health Care is an area where details hurt Clinton

It reminds people of how she handled it the first time--not a pleasant memory. Indeed, she ought to sound as if she intends to be more collaborative, even if she won't be in the long run.

[stevietheman]

18. Yes, nobody will forget how "collaborative" Hillary can be on healthcare.

She has the 1994 record to prove that.

[ugdude]

21. True. She has no idea on how to manage healthcare

[boston bean]

19. it's par for the course. obamba does it himself, as well as his supporters.

[UALRBSofL]

23. The thing about it is

She didn't say she was garnishing wages. There is a difference from that to "what's on the table".

[boston bean]

33. yes, but they have been given orders from the all important that hillary will fine and garnish wages

doesn't matter if it's true or not. just say it.

They cannot help themselves they have no other answer.

[Avalux]

24. Her supporters conveniently forget she's in bed with insurance and pharma cos.

They will be the biggest benefactors of any mandated plan she puts forth.

[Sonicmedusa]

27. People! She completely avoided this topic in the LA debate

What does that tell you???? Of course she did not say it, people would have booed her off the stage! What kind of logic is it that if someone cannot afford health insurance, that the answer is to garnish their wages? See for yourself, she completely avoided how she was going to enforce mandatory healthcare:

OBAMA: Now, under any mandate, you are going to have problems with people who don't end up having health coverage. Massachusetts right now embarked on an experiment where they mandated coverage. And, by the way, I want to congratulate Governor Schwarzenegger and the speaker and others who have been trying to do this in California, but I know that those who have looked at it understand, you can mandate it, but there's still going to be people who can't afford it. And if they cannot afford it, then the question is, what are you going to do about it? Are you going to fine them? Are you going to garnish their wages? You know, those are questions that Senator Clinton has not answered with respect to her plan, but I think we can anticipate that there would also be people potentially who are not covered and are actually hurt if they have a mandate imposed on them.

BLITZER: All right. Senator Clinton, this is a substantive difference on health care between the two of you. Go ahead and respond.

CLINTON: Well, let me start by saying that this is the passionate cause of my public service. I started trying to expand health care many years ago, first to children, then to rural areas in Arkansas, and obviously tackled it during my husband's administration. And the reason why I have designed a plan that, number one, tells people, if you have health insurance and you are happy with it, nothing changes, is because we want to maximize choice for people. So, if you are satisfied, you're not one of the people who will necessarily, at this time, take advantage of what I'm offering. But if you are uninsured or underinsured, we will open the congressional health plan to you. And contrary to... (APPLAUSE) Contrary to the description that Barack just gave, we actually will make it affordable for everyone, because my plan lowers costs aggressively, which is important for us all; improves quality for everyone, which is essential. And the way it covers all of those who wish to participate in the congressional plan is that it will provide subsidies, and it will also cap premiums, something that is really important, because we want to make sure that it is affordable for all. So, when you draw the distinction that, "Well, it's not affordable, therefore people will have to be made to get it," well, the fact is, it has been designed to be affordable with health care tax credits. And it's also important to recognize that right now, there are people who could afford health care, and they are not all young, they're people who just don't feel they have to accept that responsibility. There are many states which give families the option of keeping children up until 25 on their policies, but their rates of uninsurance are still very high. We cannot get to universal health care, which I believe is both a core Democratic value and imperative for our country, if we don't do one of three things. Either you can have a single payer system, or -- which, I know, a lot of people favor, but for many reasons, is difficult to achieve. Or, you can mandate employers. Well, that's also very controversial. Or, you can do what I am proposing, which is to have shared responsibility. Now, in Barack's plan, he very clearly says he will mandate that parents get health insurance for their children. So it's not that he is against mandatory provisions, it's that he doesn't think it would be politically acceptable to require that for everyone. I just disagree with that. I think we as Democrats have to be willing to fight for universal health care. (APPLAUSE) And what I've concluded, when I was looking at this -- because I got the same kind of advice, which was, it's controversial, you'll run into all of this buzz saw, and I said, been there, done that. But if you don't start by saying, you're going to achieve universal health care, you will be nibbled to death. And I think it's imperative that, as we move forward in this debate and into the campaign, that we recognize what both John Edwards and I did, that you have to bite this bullet. You have to say, yes, we are going to try to get universal health care. What I have designed makes it affordable, provides premium caps so it's never

[mrreowwr_kittty]

28. That's pretty much what she said to Stephanopoulus.

So he asked her 2 more times how the mandates would work. She finally admitted there'd might go after your wages.

[ugdude]

30. She WILL go after your wages.

More money for her employers (the insurance companies).

Mandating healthcare is a disaster

[Cameron27]

32. No she didn't,

she said that there were a variety of options, but she stressed the fact that with her plan that included things like subsidies and tax credits etc., it would never come to that.

[ugdude]

29. Insurance companies are funding her campaign. She is the only candidate who takes PAC money and

corporate lobbyist money.

Ofcourse she has their interests in heart.

[UALRBSofL]

34. No Hillary isn't

Look up Obama's contributors. If you haven't then I believe your uninformed.

[ugdude]

36. Obama takes no PAC money or federal corporate lobbyist money

I will pay you $1000 if you can PROVE to me that he does.

$1000. Your candidate, on the other hand, has basically NO small donations from the people, she is funded by corporate organisations.

90% of Obamas money comes from small donors, $25 or less.

[Evergreen Emerald]

31. that is what we have now. I pay a portion of my health insurance

what the hell are you guys blowing up now? You are like a bunch of kids with fireworks and matches.

Of course we have to contribute to our own health insurance. Did anyone think we wouldn't?

[Sonicmedusa]

38. The difference is, you pay that voluntarily

If you did not like the amount your empolyer charges for premiums, you can opt out. Hillary's is mandatory. If you can't afford that chunk out of your paycheck? Tough shit.

[Evergreen Emerald]

39. It is affordable according to need and income

You guys are looking for things to distort.

[Cameron27]

35. I don't think we'll ever reach the point

where people will accept single payer health care if these kind of scare tactics work so well against something as simple mandates.

[UALRBSofL]

40. When the Stephanopolus transcript are posted

There will be a lot of people with egg on there face. They will have to retract there statement about what Hillary actually said.