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Bicoastal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 10:55 AM
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Two nights ago, I had a bad dream about Obama...
Edited on Sun Feb-03-08 11:01 AM by Bicoastal
(Note: The following is 100% unvarnished truth, and not satire of any variety.)

I don't consider myself a fanatic--it's just what happens when you log onto DU right before you go to bed...yes, I had a weird dream about the candidate I'm supporting. I'm a big fan of his--which is what made the dream so unsettling.

I dreamed I had to get something signed by Barack Obama--some sort of bureaucratic procedure. You seem in my dream, he seemed to occupy a teacher's office at NYU, where I went for two years for my MA. Thus, instead of a sleek campaign headquarters with hundreds of supporters milling around, it was him at a messy desk in a dusty, cluttered room with paint peeling, with a few TA's wandering around. Obama told me he was busy and to have a seat. I don't remember too much more of the "setup" to the dream than that.

So I sit down in front of his desk, and pick up a magazine. Obama gets on the phone to someone connected to the campaign. He speaks in a low, quiet voice--but then I start to notice something strange: Obama has an INCREDIBLY dirty mouth. We've never heard him do it in real life, but on the phone in my dream, he's cussing out a storm. Worse, the phone call only seems to rile him, so he only gets angrier, and his voice gets louder and louder, and this language gets more and more profane and deranged. I try hard to concentrate on my magazine, but the more I try to do, the more disturbed I become by Obama's language. He never actually yells at ME, but he sounds positively out-of-control with rage at this point.

THEN Michelle Obama enters the room, also furious. She starts yelling at her husband, and the reason why becomes clear very quickly--she's brandishing two Playboy magazines, which she apparently found in Barack's desk. Apparently, he promised her he would get rid of them and reneged. Michelle is raging away, but at this point, Obama seems to have calmed down. Instead of answering Michelle, he just sits at his desk and takes it, a big dumb grin playing across his face. And the more she threatens him, the bigger the grin and the more smug the body language. More people gather, mostly women--at this point, the entire office seems to be yelling at Obama, while he does nothing. Nobody notices me as I tiptoe out of the room, paperwork still unsigned.


At the time, I didn't understand the dream at all--but then, I didn't think about it too hard at the time. But a day later, on a long train ride to Connecticut, I started thinking about my Obama dream again, and suddenly it clicked and every aspect of it made perfect sense.

Apparently, I dreamed that Barack Obama had transformed into Bill Clinton....
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IsItJustMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 11:02 AM
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1. Those wild dreams. We always have some doubt in the back of our minds about almost everything in
life.

Seems like some of that doubt came out in your dream.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 11:13 AM
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2. That was funny
especially the bit about everyone shouting and getting mad. Sounds a lot like DU recently.
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EmperorHasNoClothes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 11:28 AM
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3. Obama the horn-dog potty mouth
I have to say, that's a pretty disturbing dream. :D
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Bicoastal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 11:46 PM
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4. Late night Bump nt
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 11:50 PM
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5. I figured you had been watching Obama Girl before going to sleep.
Bill Clinton, I'm sure, prefers real women, but if you choose to believe that your dream would show Barack looking at two-dimensional airbrushed, Photoshopped women, well, that says a lot, too. Especially since Barack has admitted that he's unorganized, as reflected in your "dream" of messy desk.

Nice try. No cigar. Pardon the pun.
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Bicoastal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 11:56 PM
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6. If I had to guess, I'd say both B. Clinton and Obama enjoy real women AND centerfolds...
...just like most of the male population.
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LiberalHeart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 11:59 PM
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7. Well, hell, if he made that transformation -- I'd vote for him.
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annie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 12:01 AM
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8. Roll of the dice. No idea what this dude is gonna be like.
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LadyVT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 12:25 AM
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9. Dream interpretation
I can venture some thoughts about this dream. This is actually my career-long specialty, and the dream is fascinating... I do not know you, but I've got some ideas as a place to start... Always go with your own feeling when you toss around these ideas.

Dreams are about the dreamer, not the people in the dream. You don't know Obama, so it really can't be about him--it can be about your conception of him, or your concerns about him, or your impressions about him. Obama would also represent your own masculine side. Dreams about celebrities often reflect cultural/collective concerns, and this one strikes me as such a dream. First, the collective interpretation:

I dreamed I had to get something signed by Barack Obama--some sort of bureaucratic procedure. You see in my dream, he seemed to occupy a teacher's office at NYU, where I went for two years for my MA.

---> he has a teacher's persona, so this makes sense--he brings out the 'student' in all of us

Thus, instead of a sleek campaign headquarters with hundreds of supporters milling around, it was him at a messy desk in a dusty, cluttered room with paint peeling, with a few TA's wandering around. Obama told me he was busy and to have a seat. I don't remember too much more of the "setup" to the dream than that.

---> he is disorganized; room with paint peeling may indicate the persona is peeling off (rooms often equal the psyche in dreams)

So I sit down in front of his desk, and pick up a magazine. Obama gets on the phone to someone connected to the campaign. He speaks in a low, quiet voice--but then I start to notice something strange: Obama has an INCREDIBLY dirty mouth. We've never heard him do it in real life, but on the phone in my dream, he's cussing out a storm. Worse, the phone call only seems to rile him, so he only gets angrier, and his voice gets louder and louder, and this language gets more and more profane and deranged. I try hard to concentrate on my magazine, but the more I try to do, the more disturbed I become by Obama's language. He never actually yells at ME, but he sounds positively out-of-control with rage at this point.

---> very interesting, reminds me of an archive on Bill Moyers' Journal website, an interview with Shelby Steele about Obama and his style of "bargaining." He can't show anger, because studies show that the one thing whites won't tolerate in a black man is anger. Specifically, whites like a black man who doesn't get angry. They don't like a black man who does get angry. Upsetting finding, isn't it? But it's well-done research. So here you are having the dream of the very thing most disliked in the culture.

THEN Michelle Obama enters the room, also furious. She starts yelling at her husband, and the reason why becomes clear very quickly--she's brandishing two Playboy magazines, which she apparently found in Barack's desk. Apparently, he promised her he would get rid of them and reneged. Michelle is raging away, but at this point, Obama seems to have calmed down.

---> I worked as a member of a large study in graduate school which found that the US elects a paranoid, then a narcissist, then a paranoid, then a narcissist (etc). Infidelity is a quality narcissistic or narcissistic-like, powerful men are vulnerable to. In addition, 85% of men who made over $75,000 per year cheated on their wives (this was a study done in 1997). That's not everyone, but it's a lot of people. So this seems plausible to me. Obama is powerful, rich, and attractive. "Playboy" = what does that word mean to you? Think about that.

---> Instead of answering Michelle, he just sits at his desk and takes it, a big dumb grin playing across his face.

Also a cultural phenomenon these days: raging wife, little boy husband, "getting away with it."

And the more she threatens him, the bigger the grin and the more smug the body language. More people gather, mostly women--at this point, the entire office seems to be yelling at Obama, while he does nothing. Nobody notices me as I tiptoe out of the room, paperwork still unsigned.

---> You didn't get what you need. He didn't do anything in response to women's upset.

In terms of your own psyche, if Obama in the dream represents your own masculine side (the side that plans, protects, institutes action, and discriminates between options/people/attitudes), it may be that your masculine side is being "unfaithful" to your feminine needs (for nurturing, self-care, relationship harmony, receptivity), and that you're naturally angry about it. Since Obama is the one you've used to symbolize your masculine side, I'd say this dream suggests you're having your doubts about how well he will protect the feminine, and be faithful to its needs for support.

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