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raincity_calling Donating Member (143 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 12:32 PM
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What Edwards Wants From Supporters
I posted this late last night, but I don't think many saw this, so I am reposting.

Edwards has asked his supporters to not jump ship right away. See the details from a conference call he made to high level supporters (the details of which are posted below and were previously posted at DU by another blogger)

In a conference call to high level volunteers Edwards told them the following:

"Poverty will be the issue on which Edwards will continue to pursh for concessions. He said "I have not endorsed anyone...I pressed them (Obama and Clinton)in conversation in the last few days on details of what they would do about poverty - we have very detailed committments...

I will not endorse before Tues, or even after.

TAKE A BREATHER AND DON'T MAKE ANY SUPPORT DECISIONS YET -- I AM COUNSELING YOU ALL TO KEEP YOUR POWDER DRY - TAKE A DEEP BREATH

It is impossible to know what tomorrow holds."

Now Listen Up Edwards supporters. The phrase "keep your powder dry" means "TO BE READY FOR A CHALLENGE WITH LITTLE WARNING" or "TO BE READY TO TAKE ACTION IF NECESSARY."

John "suspended" his campaign. He can still accumulate delegates. He has asked supporters to be ready to take action with little warning.

I plan to vote for Edwards in the caucus - from this call, it sounds like he is brokering something and needs us to wait before we committ to a new candidate. So I urge you to continue to support Edwards.
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 12:35 PM
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1. Thank you for this thread
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BlackVelvet04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 12:36 PM
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2. I was an Edwards supporter.....
he said he was in it to the convention. He dropped out. I'm voting for Hillary.

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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 12:38 PM
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5. Exactly - that's how much his word is worth...
Edited on Sun Feb-03-08 12:40 PM by polichick
He's brokering a position for himself.

(I'm glad I saw the writing on the wall after SC ~ I knew it was bullshit that he'd stay in with those numbers.)
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Jack Bone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 12:45 PM
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7. he didn't "drop out", he only "suspended" his campaign...
who knows in this crazy primary season..he may "un-suspend" his campaign?
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Jack Bone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 12:37 PM
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3. Thanx for re-posting this...I missed it last night!
:patriot:

K&R:kick:

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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 12:37 PM
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4. I'd rather make a decision between the two remaining candidates
While McCain is solidifying his Party and raking in money, we'll still be scrambling and squabbling.

It's tough for me since I was originally a Kucinich supporter and could easily go for Edwards with his poverty and medical message. But pragmatism is an important factor for me right now.
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 02:10 PM
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13. "pragmatism" ALWAYS trumps poverty.
Which is why we continue to suffer and die.

Alone.

:cry:
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 02:25 PM
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15. I don't think there has to be that choice, b
You know where I stand on the issue. Seriously. I believe that we could lose the election if we don't get mobilized and elect our candidate and get moving on the differences between Parties. And then lean on our candidate, heavily.

There's a posting that went up here today with quotes from Rove about how much time there is for them to raise money and support for McCain. I dread him and the conservatives who will continue us on the current path. Where will issues of poverty be then, not to mention the constitutional rights and voting issues.

My heart is broken but I can do something about our side.
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 02:58 PM
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16. If you "lean heavily", that is one thing, but I don't see that happening.
How could that come about?

How would you get people involved with that?

As for the constant reminder of the thread of "losing"... I think it's set up by a poor choice of candidates, and there's nothing I can do about that.

You ask me "where would poverty be then?" Well, I dont' see any difference between the corporate Dems and the corporate Reps. NEITHER will care about me! NEITHER will do anything to make sure the millions of us on the edge of survival will have improved circumstances!

Remember Clinton, and how proud he STILL is of his cutoff of welfare mothers and children? Do you remember that? Do you realize that we STILL don't know how many of them are now homeless who weren't before, and how many have died????? Does it matter?

I said in '04 it was the last time I was working and voting for the least of two weavils. I meant it, and so did thousands of other Dems. And here we are. They couldnt' even get the damned voting mess cleaned up, that's just how much they care!

No, I'm convinced that NOTHING will change, and that Dems would give a rip about those of us suffering until the crash comes and MORE are suffering. Remember the story of the frog, and the slow upturn of heat, boiling to death? That's what will continue to happen with either of the candidates. Just a continuation of the slow decent of this country. And, a more rapid decent of those of us who are poor and invisible! Hope, hell!

So, why the hell should I care what happens to the muddleclass? From what I see, the only hope is for the muddleclass to fall rapidly, and regain their humanity.
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 03:36 PM
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17. Just wanted you to see this quote, as fodder for contemplation....
I think there is MUCH wisdom in this, and I hope you will ponder...

"Very perceptive. IMHO it was an obviously orchestrated dog and pony show for the purpose of crushing the growing insurgency within the party that Edwards was instigating. It succeeded in herding all of the people back into the fold and silencing criticism of the party, with just a few brave exceptions here in the Edwards forum. The lie is that this was done to provide a united front to the Republicans. The truth is that this "unity" meant that we critics and insurgents had better STFU. It is a fake unity - not a true coming together on principles and ideals, but rather the illusion of unity, a homogenized and sterilized conformity achieved by suppressing the critics. The party leadership does not want the public to know that there is a battle going on for the heart and soul of the party, because they know that the general public would side with us by the millions and millions. This suppression was not done so we can fight the Republicans better, it was done to protect the positions and power of those in the leadership. It may well come at the price of losing to the Republicans, but retaining their own power in the party is more important to the leadership than beating the Republicans is.
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Dhalgren Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 03:49 PM
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20. I am with you, bobbo! This is about maintaining the class system more than
Edited on Sun Feb-03-08 03:49 PM by Dhalgren
it is about anything else. The corporations rule - and you can either get on board or get left behind. I prefer being left behind - at least I don't have to sell-out to be left behind. The Party has made it abundantly clear that it does not care if progressives vote Democratic or not - so I say, "Not"...
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 03:51 PM
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21. You just created one incredible mental image!!
When I was reading your words about prefering to be left behind (I agree!), I saw a figure like us standing on the curb, with a nasty, polluting bus roaring away, with the big Dem donkey on the side.

:evilgrin:

That's exactly what I feel about the party right now!

A roaring, polluting bus, with me just about under it's wheels....

:cry:

:hug: for Dhalgren!
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the other one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 12:38 PM
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6. I'm voting EDWARDS on Tuesday in Delaware
And I'm getting others to join me.
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liberalla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 07:07 AM
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29. I'm doing the same, except I'm doing it in AZ!
He's the only one I can vote for in the primary.

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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 12:50 PM
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8. smells like bullshit to me.
now, lemme see, who's afraid of edwards voters? hmmm.
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Zodiak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 12:50 PM
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9. If we just fall in line with one of the two remaining candidates
Edited on Sun Feb-03-08 12:51 PM by Zodiak Ironfist
then they do not have to offer us anything. If they are so quick to tout their ability to get things done by compromising, then let them compromise with US for a change.

If they offer nothing, than withdraw support in the GE until they do.

We are sick and tired of being taken for granted by our own party while they trip over themselves to accommodate for the pukes.
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rodriguez94 Donating Member (270 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 12:52 PM
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10. Enough is enough....
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 03:52 PM
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22. Kinda hard to stand up when you've been thrown under the bus, and the wheel is on
your neck....
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gasoline highway Donating Member (109 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 12:54 PM
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11. Ex-Edwards supporter here...
and I'm going for Obama!
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Helga Scow Stern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 01:00 PM
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12. I see no other reasonable alternative. Thanks for posting. n/t
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raincity_calling Donating Member (143 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 02:19 PM
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14. I just can't support the others until I have to
I recently read about Obama's Excelon Energy relationship, and Rezko, and his fondness for Reagan (read Obama's book) and I can't do it. I can't support him.

We need to continue to support Edwards. And if you are a Kucinich or Richardson supporter, then join forces with us or form an "uncommitted" coalition. The progressive must stick together.

Neither Obama or Clinton are progressives.
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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 07:11 PM
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26. There's more....Odinga...ripening now in the GOP incubator, even
as they are all swooning for O.
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 03:37 PM
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18. I sent in my absentee ballot for him a while back.
:patriot:
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 03:53 PM
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23. .
:applause:

:hug:
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 03:38 PM
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19. Why do you suppose he suspended before super tuesday? I don't get it.
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 03:54 PM
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24. Something dirty is afoot. There are too many signs pointing to that.
They're much more sophisticated now...

They don't have to assassinate anymore....

:cry:
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waiting for hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 07:07 PM
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25. Hey helderheid -
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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 07:15 PM
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28. WOW, what a great site!!! "Don't blame me, I voted for Edwards!"
is my favorite!!
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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 07:12 PM
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27. To maintain his dignity as the press ignored him some more and
crowed over his demise if he stayed in....the crocodile tears on MSNBC the morning he suspended were a sight to behold...oh, so sad, so solemn, full of regret...the bastards!!!
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