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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-03-08 01:37 PM Original message |
There is a lot of disinformation about Hillarys American Choices Health Plan |
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Avalux (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-03-08 01:40 PM Response to Original message |
1. American Choices - lol. Mandates and wage garnishment are not CHOICE. |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-03-08 01:53 PM Response to Reply #1 |
7. Answer this, then |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-03-08 01:55 PM Response to Reply #7 |
10. Nicely put |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-03-08 01:55 PM Response to Reply #1 |
11. But it says CHOICE! And it's AMERICAN! |
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ThatPoetGuy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-03-08 01:55 PM Response to Reply #1 |
12. Uh, "mandates" is GOP propaganda. |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-03-08 01:58 PM Response to Reply #12 |
15. One of your examples is not like the others |
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Emit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-03-08 01:40 PM Response to Original message |
2. So, would there be a premium to pay for the plan similar to Medicare? n/t |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-03-08 01:44 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. Yes but it would vary based on ability to pay, |
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Kittycat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-03-08 01:49 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. Again, "Ability to pay" |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-03-08 01:52 PM Response to Reply #5 |
6. You get a tax credit to help pay for it |
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Emit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-03-08 02:05 PM Response to Reply #6 |
22. Tax credit? |
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Kittycat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-03-08 02:16 PM Response to Reply #6 |
25. Oh yes, issue a tax credit after the fact. Who's bringing food by in the meantime? |
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Emit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-03-08 02:36 PM Response to Reply #25 |
28. "Who's bringing food by in the meantime.." |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-03-08 03:10 PM Response to Reply #28 |
37. If you're median income or less |
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Emit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-03-08 03:24 PM Response to Reply #37 |
39. That, too, sandsea, yes. I agree. |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-03-08 02:56 PM Response to Reply #25 |
33. If you're that low income, you'll get Medicaid |
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Kittycat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-03-08 03:02 PM Response to Reply #33 |
34. Again - no you don't get medicaid |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-03-08 03:12 PM Response to Reply #34 |
38. It's the people just above the WIC guidelines |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-03-08 03:07 PM Response to Reply #6 |
36. Like the $1,000 Hope College Tax Credit?? |
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BlackVelvet04 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-03-08 01:59 PM Response to Reply #5 |
16. No.... |
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Emit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-03-08 02:06 PM Response to Reply #16 |
23. Does her plan say that ability to pay takes into consideration cost of living |
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Kittycat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-03-08 03:05 PM Response to Reply #23 |
35. Exactly. |
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Emit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-03-08 01:54 PM Response to Reply #3 |
8. After having worked in a public agency servicing low-income disabled individuals |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-03-08 01:56 PM Response to Reply #8 |
13. Low income people won't have to pay |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-03-08 02:00 PM Response to Reply #8 |
17. Getting them in the plans |
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BlackVelvet04 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-03-08 02:01 PM Response to Reply #8 |
18. You are so wrong..... |
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Emit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-03-08 02:31 PM Response to Reply #18 |
27. I am not wrong, but perhaps have a different insight and experience. A lot depends where you live |
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Bluerthanblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-03-08 02:52 PM Response to Reply #8 |
31. thank you Emit- |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-03-08 01:57 PM Response to Reply #3 |
14. Determining abilty to pay is costly. Someone reviews all income information and approves or denies. |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-03-08 02:01 PM Response to Reply #14 |
19. Medicaid is based on the Federal Poverty Guidelines |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-03-08 02:24 PM Response to Reply #19 |
26. And it's significantly more expensive to administer because client eligibility has to be determined |
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Bluerthanblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-03-08 02:50 PM Response to Reply #19 |
30. nothing simple about it- |
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Emit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-03-08 02:54 PM Response to Reply #30 |
32. Thanks for your input, Bluerthanblue |
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Bluerthanblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-03-08 01:47 PM Response to Original message |
4. offered a choice? what choice? Medicare is age based, Medicaid is |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-03-08 01:55 PM Response to Reply #4 |
9. Try reading the plan |
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Bluerthanblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-03-08 02:46 PM Response to Reply #9 |
29. I HAVE-- have you? |
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BlackVelvet04 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-03-08 02:03 PM Response to Original message |
20. Didn't Hillary say she would open up the |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-03-08 02:04 PM Response to Reply #20 |
21. Yes the FEHBP, this is mentioned |
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BlackVelvet04 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-03-08 02:10 PM Response to Reply #21 |
24. Yes, they have great coverage..... |
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