Chris Matthews Show: McCain Will Win Big With Independents & Democrats

[Amerigo Vespucci]

Video clips @ the URL below.

Chris Matthews Show: McCain Will Win Big With Independents & Democrats
By: Logan Murphy on Sunday, February 3rd, 2008 at 1:11 PM - PST



The hardcore, right wing base of the Republican party, including one of its most prominent spokespersons, has been going berserk over the notion that Senator John McCain might become the GOP candidate for president. They’ve gone above and beyond trying to paint him as a liberal, which elicits laughter from actual liberals — but apparently, it’s catching on with some teevee bobbleheads.

This morning on The Chris Matthews Show, the panel discussed John McCain and how many Democrats and Independents would vote for him in the general election. Matthews puts up poll numbers showing McCain taking as many as 41% of Independent voters and 16% of Democrats. The same poll also shows him beating Hillary Clinton and losing to Barack Obama, both by slim margins and 7 out of 12 CMS contributors think McCain could hold those numbers all the way through the general election.

I was surprised, Joe Kline actually brings the most reality to this segment, reminding the panel that there are only a handful of Independents who think we should be in Iraq for 100 years and that if McCain thinks he can live off the narrow tactical successes of the surge (U.S. deaths in Iraq climbed in January) in Iraq and avoid talking about the economy throughout the entire campaign, he’s in for trouble.

Democrats are consistently topping Republicans in both fundraising and voter turn out, so I find it hard to believe that the race would be anywhere this close. Having said that, it’s a long way to November and anything can happen. We’ve learned not to place too much emphasis on polling data, so here’s my question to C&L readers — is this another case of our media trying to create a horse race where none exists, or does McCain, a war mongering, anti-choice, pandering, flip flopping Republican who has capitulated on torture, immigration and President Bush’s tax cuts REALLY have a good shot at beating either Barack Obama or Hillary Clinton in November?

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2008/02/03/chris-matthews-show-mccain-will-win-big-with-independents-democrats/

[mtnester]

1. Maybe in chrismatthewsisaslobberingiodiot universe

yeah

[rpannier]

2. If I had a dollar for everytime crissy endorsed a republikkan... I'd be rich as f**k

He needs to get over his anger at Bill for not making him press secretary and move on with his life.
If Tip O'Neill were still alive today, he'd be wretching at this puke enabler.

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

14. Tweety on McCain: "There's something about a Metamucil man"

I'm sure he's going to come up an inane zinger like that sooner or later on McCain:

Re McCain:

"A lot of people like the cut of John McCain's jib, his independence, his maverick reputation."

Re Chimp:

"He looks great in a military uniform. He looks great in that cowboy costume he wears when he goes West. We're proud of our President. Americans love having a guy as President, a guy who has a little swagger, who's physical, who's not a complicated guy like Clinton.... Women like a guy who's President. Check it out. ... Everybody sort of likes the President, except for the real whack-jobs,"

and also Re Chimp:

"There are some things you can't fake. Either you can throw a strike from sixty feet or you can't. Either you can rise to the occasion on the mound at Yankee Stadium with 56,000 people watching or you can't. On Tuesday night, George W. Bush hit the strike zone in the House that Ruth Built.... This is about knowing what to do at the moment you have to do it--and then doing it. It's about that 'grace under pressure' that Hemingway gave as his very definition of courage."

and also Re Chimp:

"You know, Tony, there is in the past, it's not always there, but sometimes it glimmers with this man, our president, that kind of sunny nobility."

Re Frederick of Hollywood:

"...Does have sex appeal? … Gene, do you think there’s a sex appeal for this guy, this sort of mature, older man, you know? … Can you smell the English leather on this guy, the Aqua Velva, the sort of mature man’s shaving cream, or whatever, you know, after he shaved? Do you smell that sort of — a little bit of cigar smoke? You know, whatever. ..."

Re Mr. 911 (aka Mr. "little bit of Fascism there"):

"I don't know. I get excited. ... Well here's my thought between all that, is that I think Giuliani's the kind of gutsy, street-corner politician we all grew up with. When there was a fire, the police commissioner showed up with the fire commissioner and stood on the corner during the fire and told us what was going on. We miss that.

The subways didn't smell like pee anymore. Even the phone booths in New York have always smelled like pee -- when there's not even a booth, it's just a phone and it smells like pee. And this guy cleaned it up, and he made you feel like you had a right to walk the street safely. I think he did a great job. I'm sorry. And I think the country wants a boss like that. You know, a little bit of fascism there. Just a little bit. Just a pinch of it."

[SoFlaJet]

3. Oh you mean THE Chris Matthews

who said "Senator McCain you have my heart" the other day?

[CatWoman]

4. has this sputtering mother fucking been right about ANYTHING??

He's the blond version of William Kristol.

[Coexist]

5. Ugh. His man-crushes are embarrassing.

If he blogged about them, talked about them at parties.... fine.

But to spit and blush and stammer about them, like he really think he looks like a disinterested reporter is painful to watch.

[BlueManDude]

6. You're all whistling past the graveyard

you guys talk about issues like they matter. Image and personality decide presidential elections. McCain has both and will win handily in November.

[cali]

11. don't be ridiculous.

democrats are turning out in huge numbers for the primaries. repukes? not so much. the repuke party has been losing members. The dem party has been gaining the. Dems are massively outraising repukes. The republican base is very unhappy with its choices. Do some reseach. Educate yourself. Start with Pew. It's a great resource.

[Amerigo Vespucci]

12. You have to take a trip over to FreepTown and read the McCain posts.

McCain isn't exactly "well loved and respected" over there.

They're smart enough to have Googled Huckabee's record on taxes, and consider him to be a R.I.N.O. and an idiot.

They hate McCain for teaming up with Ted Kennedy on the "amnesty bill" for illegals (immigration is a MUCH bigger "hott button" for the freeps than you might imagine).

If it's a choice between Romney and Hillary, they'll take Romney, but that's about as deep as their love goes for Mitt.

I don't personally know ANY pro-Hillary people.

I don't know any pro-Obama people, either, but at least the people I know aren't rabidly anti-Hillary (I know a few of them).

So I tend to go with the popular "It's February, and anything can happen between now and November" logic.

:patriot:

[reality based]

7. The real problem is if the Democratic base becomes discouraged or cynical.

The DINO Congress continues to disappoint and even the Presidenetial candidates often blow uncertain trumpets. Here's hoping the general election narrative crafted by our nominees will be enough to give the progressive cause a mandate. Universal Health Care! Economic recovery. Restore our world leadership.

[dempartisan23]

8. i despise chris matthews

he has mccain stuck up his posterior

[ErnestoG]

9. I don't like Tweety, but he's right on this one.

Which is why Hillary would be a disaster. Only Obama can take enough votes away from McCain on the big day. If Hillary faces off McCain, a Hate-Hillary coalition is going to come to together the likes of which you have never seen.

[TwilightGardener]

10. Tweety is a one-man McCain Band. I'm sure he's hoping McCrazy will

make him press secretary, if he just whores for him enough.

[rpannier]

18. Well... Bill did turn Matthews down in the mid-90's

And Matthews has been holding this grudge ever since.

Based on matthews' paltitudes and lovefests over DUH-bya, aqua-velva thompson, old man mc cain and ghouliani I think Bill showed solid judgement

[biscotti]

13. What a Fool

[ordinaryaveragegirl]

15. Tweety is an asshat.

Of course, what else do we expect from an idiot who openly voted for Chimp in '04, and still hasn't seen the light. :eyes:

[McCamy Taylor]

16. NBC-GE and the Pentagon can happen between now and November...

..with the help of the WaPo, Fox News and the rest of the MSM.

http://journals.democraticunderground.com/McCamy%20Taylor/139

[Andromeda]

17. Kiss my grits, Tweety!

I'm trying to clean it up.