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bidenista (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-04-08 10:20 AM Original message |
Washington Post: Obama benefits from biased "blowout coverage" |
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Alamom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-04-08 10:25 AM Response to Original message |
1. Thanks for posting. This is quite an interesting article, although we've seen the |
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avaistheone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-04-08 10:26 AM Response to Original message |
2. Coverage like that is worth millions of dollars. |
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Tellurian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-04-08 10:31 AM Response to Reply #2 |
3. The next followup question would be WHY? |
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K Gardner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-04-08 10:32 AM Response to Reply #3 |
4. Caroline never knew her father?? Try telling HER that. What a shameless and nasty shill of a post. |
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Tellurian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-04-08 10:50 AM Response to Reply #4 |
24. Of course she never knew him. Are you daft? |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-04-08 11:04 AM Response to Reply #24 |
54. She knew him as a child knows a father |
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elixir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-04-08 11:15 AM Response to Reply #54 |
59. I believe you misread the second half of Tellurian's post. Why wld Caroline align herself w/ MSM.. |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-04-08 12:14 PM Response to Reply #59 |
75. I read it right - I simply disagree that they |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-04-08 10:34 AM Response to Reply #3 |
5. Because Obama is the best candidate the Democrats have run in decades. |
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robbedvoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-04-08 10:40 AM Response to Reply #5 |
13. Far better than Gore, or Clark ...and the MSM just always LOVES good candidates.non? |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-04-08 10:44 AM Response to Reply #13 |
19. I think so, yes. The question was why the Kennedys endorsed Obama, not |
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robbedvoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-04-08 10:51 AM Response to Reply #19 |
27. Same reason he endorsed Kerry + the power struggle in the party. The rest |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-04-08 10:54 AM Response to Reply #27 |
35. Conspiratorial sour grapes. nt |
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robbedvoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-04-08 10:57 AM Response to Reply #35 |
43. We may or we may not see reality confirm that. I'd rather we don't |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-04-08 10:58 AM Response to Reply #43 |
45. Or so you desperately hope. |
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elixir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-04-08 11:16 AM Response to Reply #19 |
62. The MSM backs the best and most recent story, nothing more. They have no moral compunction becuase |
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krkaufman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-04-08 10:52 AM Response to Reply #13 |
32. Well, then based on your negative reasoning, our best candidate ... |
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Tellurian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-04-08 10:59 AM Response to Reply #5 |
46. Obama is a media creation.. nothing more.. and comparing him to JFK is a denial of reality.... |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-04-08 11:08 AM Response to Reply #46 |
57. No. Obama creates media coverage. It must seem bizarre to a supporter of someone |
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Tellurian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-04-08 01:06 PM Response to Reply #57 |
78. Hillary has a record to stand on...Obama stands on a resume of non-accomplishments and thin air! |
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LowerManhattanite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-04-08 10:45 AM Response to Reply #3 |
21. “blind, love struck Caroline” |
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Tellurian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-04-08 10:51 AM Response to Reply #21 |
28. If Caroline can equate Obama to her father...then she's off her rocker! |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-04-08 10:54 AM Response to Reply #28 |
37. I think she knows both better than you do. |
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LowerManhattanite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-04-08 10:58 AM Response to Reply #28 |
44. And now, she's “mentally ill”... |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-04-08 11:04 AM Response to Reply #44 |
51. I'm just glad I have whoever this putz is on ignore. nt |
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Tellurian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-04-08 11:04 AM Response to Reply #44 |
53. Caroline explained, at her endorsement of Obama.. |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-04-08 11:13 AM Response to Reply #28 |
58. Do you know Obama better than she does? |
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desi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-04-08 11:35 AM Response to Reply #28 |
70. Agreed. That's just like equating Humpin' Henry Hyde's marriage |
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sfam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-04-08 10:36 AM Response to Original message |
6. So are you saying Obama has worked the MSM better than Hillary? And... |
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bidenista (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-04-08 10:38 AM Response to Reply #6 |
8. no, i'm not saying that. read the article |
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robbedvoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-04-08 10:42 AM Response to Reply #6 |
16. Obama didn't "work" the MSM - MSM is working the voters - manipulating our |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-04-08 10:52 AM Response to Reply #16 |
30. more and more--the biased coverage for Obama is coming out. The sheepies just lap it up. |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-04-08 10:50 AM Response to Reply #6 |
26. "he gave them the keys to Camelot." HA HA--guess Fairy Tales are full swing in the |
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robbedvoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-04-08 10:52 AM Response to Reply #26 |
31. I always wondered where Teddy kept those keys and why did he never use them |
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sfam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-04-08 10:53 AM Response to Reply #26 |
33. What exactly do you think Kennedy said in his endorsement? Deal with it. |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-04-08 02:12 PM Response to Reply #33 |
79. he gave him the fairy tale that never was. |
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William769 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-04-08 10:38 AM Response to Original message |
7. K&R! |
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robbedvoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-04-08 10:38 AM Response to Original message |
9. here's another good observation: |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-04-08 10:43 AM Response to Reply #9 |
17. Two notes. |
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AX10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-04-08 08:52 PM Response to Reply #9 |
86. The MSM is setting... |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-04-08 10:38 AM Response to Original message |
10. Huh. So Obama is much better at controlling the media narrative than Hillary. |
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leftynyc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-04-08 10:54 AM Response to Reply #10 |
38. He never had to control it |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-04-08 10:55 AM Response to Reply #38 |
41. He does make it seem effortless. Hallmark of a talented politician. Hillary is hamfisted |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-04-08 11:02 AM Response to Reply #41 |
50. No talent involved by Obama when msm does the kid glove approach when |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-04-08 11:04 AM Response to Reply #50 |
52. Nothing happens by happenstance in politics. Obama's playing them like a piano. |
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robbedvoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-04-08 12:02 PM Response to Reply #52 |
74. I hope I'll miss the part where the piano eats the pianist. I trully do! |
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Dems Will Win (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-04-08 10:39 AM Response to Original message |
11. The reason is that the nation has been waiting for a new JFK since JFK was killed |
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NJSecularist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-04-08 10:40 AM Response to Original message |
12. Hillary had a stranglehold of the media for months |
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robbedvoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-04-08 10:44 AM Response to Reply #12 |
18. Hillary never got favorable coverage - Obama love=Hillary hate (that never changed) |
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chascarrillo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-04-08 10:40 AM Response to Original message |
14. Col. Kurtz on DU: Just when I think I've seen it all. |
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robbedvoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-04-08 10:45 AM Response to Reply #14 |
20. You mean, as opposed to every other media whore quoted in support of Obama |
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chascarrillo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-04-08 10:48 AM Response to Reply #20 |
23. No. In conjunction with. |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-04-08 10:54 AM Response to Reply #14 |
36. How Rovian of you--kill the messenger. |
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chascarrillo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-04-08 08:46 PM Response to Reply #36 |
85. It's somehow "Rovian" of me to ridicule a right-wing media pundit? |
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Apollo11 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-04-08 10:41 AM Response to Original message |
15. It is expected that the Democratic Party establishment will support Hillary Clinton |
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Little Star (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-04-08 10:50 AM Response to Reply #15 |
25. Hog wash! Kennedy's are establishment. They along with MSM |
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Apollo11 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-04-08 10:56 AM Response to Reply #25 |
42. I was just saying why Kennedys endorsing Obama gets media coverage. |
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Duke Newcombe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-04-08 10:48 AM Response to Original message |
22. Suggesting a different frame for this... |
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LowerManhattanite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-04-08 10:51 AM Response to Original message |
29. Kurtz... |
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Summerza (59 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-04-08 07:43 PM Response to Reply #29 |
84. That's an ad-hominem attack |
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RoadRage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-04-08 10:54 AM Response to Original message |
34. It was a big deal because it was assumed that the Kennedy's would endorse Clinton. The story wasn't |
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sfam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-04-08 10:55 AM Response to Reply #34 |
40. Exactly!!! n/t |
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robbedvoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-04-08 10:59 AM Response to Reply #34 |
47. Assumed by whom? kerry already endorsed Obama - and we knew the rivalry |
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sfam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-04-08 11:01 AM Response to Reply #47 |
49. What rivalry? By all accounts they are very close. Talk about revisionism! Forget the MSM, |
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robbedvoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-04-08 11:16 AM Response to Reply #49 |
60. DU has been abuzz with speculations - "Clinton didn't help Kerry in 2004 because |
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sfam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-04-08 11:18 AM Response to Reply #60 |
65. We are talking about Kennedy and Clinton, not Kerry and Clinton n/t |
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robbedvoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-04-08 11:58 AM Response to Reply #65 |
72. Same thing. 2 spheres of influence. Soldiers of the main actors are mere surrogates |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-04-08 11:05 AM Response to Reply #47 |
55. Kennedy and Clinton are fairly close friends. You're simply making up "facts." |
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RoadRage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-04-08 11:16 AM Response to Reply #47 |
63. By "We" you must mean you & a friend? Because I certainly knew of NO |
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robbedvoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-04-08 11:20 AM Response to Reply #63 |
68. Find me a kerry supporter from 2004 supporting Hillary (even temporarily, before |
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RoadRage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-04-08 12:35 PM Response to Reply #68 |
77. My post doesn't discuss Kerry at all - only Kennedy. NT |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-04-08 11:20 AM Response to Reply #34 |
67. Although there were clues that he was not enthusiastic about HRC even before 2007 |
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robbedvoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-04-08 12:00 PM Response to Reply #67 |
73. Thank you for the honest contribution. The signs were there for anyone paying attention |
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adapa (427 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-04-08 10:54 AM Response to Original message |
39. Face it, the corporate Media get to chose the POTUS-voters are a mear formailty |
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robbedvoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-04-08 11:18 AM Response to Reply #39 |
66. Every. Single. Time. Eliminated progressive candidates, and now try toget rid of |
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mckeown1128 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-04-08 11:01 AM Response to Original message |
48. It is a double edged sword. [see NH] nt |
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Politicub (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-04-08 11:06 AM Response to Original message |
56. Interesting analysis - I'm feeling more and more what John hinted at last week |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-04-08 11:16 AM Response to Original message |
61. Hell, even the CNN poll which shows the race tightening |
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NoBorders (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-04-08 11:17 AM Response to Original message |
64. So, suddenly Kurts is the Media Oracle |
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guruoo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-04-08 11:26 AM Response to Original message |
69. I have a dream -of a PR machine. Like political photoshop |
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bidenista (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-04-08 11:39 AM Response to Reply #69 |
71. looks like a good meal there. nt |
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guruoo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-04-08 12:29 PM Response to Reply #71 |
76. Here's the pre PR machine image: |
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avrdream (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-04-08 07:22 PM Response to Original message |
80. Very interesting. |
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Summerza (59 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-04-08 07:23 PM Response to Original message |
81. Howard Kurtz has talent |
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cd3dem (927 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-04-08 07:25 PM Response to Original message |
82. the media is about as phoney as the voting computers in Ohio |
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high density (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-04-08 07:30 PM Response to Original message |
83. So where was this moaning about "blowout coverage" back before NH? |
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Stand and Fight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-05-08 04:03 AM Response to Original message |
87. Nice to see that I'm not the only one noticing the BS Obama coverage. n/t |
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