TIME- Video of Obama Sunday Mocking John Edwards... Can We Tolerate This Behavior By The StrawMan?

[DaLittle Kitty]

TIME- video of Obama Sun. mocking Edwards

http://thepage.time.com/2008/02/03/obama-forgets-edwards-is-out-of-the-race/


Barack Obama uses old gibe about debate answer Sunday to mock former rival whose supporters he is supposed to be courting.

What a nice touch- mocking Edwards for his debate admission that his compassion for the poor is also his weakness. What about the feelings of ALL those poor voters out there who supported Senator John Edwards? :argh:

Barack Obama more and more appears to be a firewall for the woman.

Is Obama this dumb or is his disdain for John Edwards so ingrained that he must trash Edwards less affluent supporters to make ... WHAT POINT? :puke:

[hisownpetard]

1. TATA.

[Clarkansas]

2. That doesn't look like mocking to me

but then again, I am not desperate to make Obama look bad, like you are.

[mrreowwr_kittty]

3. I don't blame him for mocking that answer.

They were asked to admit to a weakness. Obama talked about a real one while Clinton and Edwards spouted phony self-aggrandizing bullshit.

As for Edwards having less affluent supporters, that's actually not true. In the early primary states the people with the highest incomes went for Obama while the people in the lowest income brackets went for Clinton.

[Peregrine Took]

6. Once more it shows a "smallness" on his part. Has that Edwards comment

been sticking in his craw all this time and he then decided to nail Edwards by mocking him when he wasn't around to defend what he said?

This is the 3rd time I've seen BO behave in a less than "princely" way.

[mrreowwr_kittty]

13. You'll probably see a lot more because he's not a prince.

The joke about Edwards was just that, a joke.

Obama must be the candidate who appeals to people who are not humor-impaired.

[karynnj]

27. No, it is part of a stump speech first used in NV

[KingofNewOrleans]

4. What did Obama say after the video

was cut off? Seems a very suspect edit to me.

[IndyOp]

17. Thank you King for asking the question that needs to be asked...

What was the context of the comment?

I am an Edwards supporter, but I like Obama, too and I want to see the rest of the clip.

Blood! We need blood in the water! Controversy! Fight! Horserace! Journalists can't work without there being any blood in the water and if there isn't any, they've got to do something to produce blood.

:thumbsdown: :thumbsdown: :thumbsdown:

[jackson_dem]

22. Here is the context

I was there. He praised Edwards for lifting the issues of poverty and working folks onto the national radar screen and said "we are proud" of what John did. He then, obviously choosing bad timing, began talking about the Vegas debate and Edwards' and Clinton's responses to the "what is your greatest weakness" question and contrasted his response to theirs by saying their responses are an example of what happens if you stay in Washington too long. He wasn't bashing Edwards.

[Cant trust em]

20. Obama gives an answer about a way that he can actually improve

and Clinton says something like "I'm just too impatient to get to the work of fixing this country."

Edwards says something like "I just care too passionately about helping poor people".

I appreciate that Obama is willing to actually do some self-analysis and say this is something I need to work on. The others take an opportunity to inflate their image.

Obama is the only one who actually answered the intent on the question.

I can't find the video, but that's the gist. I've seen it before.

[karynnj]

28. He gave HRC 's answer and his own

Then made fun of himself.

[berni_mccoy]

5. That's great... a LAME ASS attempt to discredit Obama by cutting a video snippet

It's completely out of context. I wonder what Obama was about to say. I don't think he was about to mock Edwards at all, but since the video is cut we can't really know can we?

[MelissaB]

14. I agree, and how does this shit make it to the "greatest"?

[BenDavid]

24. Only lame ass in this campaign is also a jiveass...then again

I have heard obama speak and no i did not get goose bumps running up and down my arm. No, I was not buying into his bs. Obama reminds me more of a revival preacher that gets all the people stirred up, shouting and rolling on the floor and afterwards kinda leaves a hollow feeling oncw you think what all he said.....


ps: just so you know before you call me a racist, accrding to urban dictionary jiveass is not a racial comment.

[karynnj]

31. No but I think there are those who are offended by the

description of evangelical preachers. I bet you would be offended by a similar condescending description of Hasidim dancing with the Torah on Purim. As I assume you never were never in the congregation of that type of preacher it takes a certain amount of arrogance to say that they feel "hollow" afterwards. I assume most don't.

[Apollo11]

7. Obama has brought up this "weakness" thing before

It was during the CNN debate in South Carolina. The 3 leading candidates were asked what was their main weakness and their greatest strength.

Obama was asked to go first - so he was very honest and admitted that he can sometimes be disorganized.

Then Edwards said he is too compassionate and Hillary said she is sometimes too impatient to get things done.

I think it was the next day, Obama said he should have said something different. Like how is worst weakness is helping old ladies to cross the road, or something like that.

Sorry I don't have a link on me right now.

[DUyellow]

8. Video of same joke, I would like to see the full video from this event in context

Joke starts at 1:40
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVlZZdxZ9AU

[DUyellow]

10. text of the same type of joke... why let context get in the way

link...


Obama poked fun at John Edwards and Hillary Clinton for their response to the “what is your weakness” question at the MSNBC debate. Obama said that he answered the question as an “ordinary person.”

"Folks, they don't tell you what they mean!" exclaimed Obama.

“I thought that they meant 'what’s your biggest weakness?!' So I said 'well you know I don’t handle paper that well, you know, my desk is a mess, I need somebody to help me file and stuff all the time.'”

“So the other two they say well my biggest weakness is 'I'm just too passionate about helping poor people.' I am just too impatient to bring about change in America.'”

Obama joked, “If I had gone last I would have known what the game was. I could have said 'well you know I like to help old ladies across the street. Sometimes they don’t want to be helped. It’s terrible.'”

Obama went on to criticize Clinton for her comments at the debate on the bankruptcy bill...

[AtomicKitten]

9. Obama actually answered the question about "weakness" -- the others' answers were self-serving.

[elixir]

11. A genuine non-issue. Not worth posting.

[grantcart]

12. First of all the "Time" reference is to an advertisement on the web page lol

Secondly I just heard the entire clip on CNN and it goes like this:

1) He praises John Edwards and his campaign

2) He states that being in Washington too long is not a good thing.

3) As proof that he is different when they ask a question he askes it and doesn't try to turn a question
about what you consider a weakness into bragging about yourself.

4) He then replays the three responses. John's, Hillary's and his.

5) People chuckle.

Now if you really think that he is mocking John then fine but please don't edit it down. Include the part where he thanks John for raising the awareness of poverty in the country.

[jefferson_dem]

15. Out-of-context "conflict drivel".

I saw that speech. They conveniently sliced off Obama's comments just before where he praised the fuck out of Edwards.

[1776Forever]

16. Oh please.......... If you are dumb enough to think this is true then you are a fool!!!!!

:grr: :nuke: :grr:

Check out this link for the truth!!!!!!

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/01/30/621828.aspx

From NBC's Mark Murray

Obama is the first out of the gate to issue a statement on Edwards' exit.

"John Edwards has spent a lifetime fighting to give voice to the voiceless and hope to the struggling, even when it wasn't popular to do or covered in the news. At a time when our politics is too focused on who's up and who's down, he made a nation focus again on who matters - the New Orleans child without a home, the West Virginia miner without a job, the families who live in that other America that is not seen or heard or talked about by our leaders in Washington."

Obama added, "John and Elizabeth Edwards have always believed deeply that we can change this - that two Americans can become one, and that our country can rally around this common purpose. So while his campaign may end today, the cause of their lives endures for all of us who still believe that we can achieve that dream of one America."

[dalloway]

18. THIS IS REALLY A POOR POINT

I watched the video and he absolutely does not mock anyone at all. It is dishonest to say otherwise and hope people are too lazy to actually see the video themselves.

[Cant trust em]

19. It shows that when asked a question

Obama will give an honest answer, not a political one.

[jackson_dem]

23. I have defended Obama against this false hit

However, let's cut the bull. Obama will give an honest answer and not a political one? What was his answer on Kyl-Lieberman the day it was voted on? Here is a summary of his floor statements, press releases, and comment on the bill at the debate the same night of the vote:

[Cant trust em]

29. True

I should have said Obama GAVE an honest answer and not a political one. Like you, I will defend against this particular hit.

[jackson_dem]

30. I agree with all of that

[Cant trust em]

32. Whoa. Holy shit!

two people on DU agreed on something.

[OneBlueSky]

21. I don't like Hillary Clinton for a whole lot of reasons . . . but Obama strikes me . . .

as something of a carnival barker . . . "You say you didn't like the show, you say you want your money back . . . Step right up, I got a walkin' stick for a quarter!" . . . slick as hell, but just doesn't say much . . .

[IndieLeft]

25. He was retelling the story from the debate...

And I'm sure if it wouldn't have been cut off, he would have went on to how hillary said she is impatient, and then he would have said the if he knew they were going to dodge the question, so to speak, he would have said he like to help little old ladies across the street.

We've heard this before. Got something substantive?

[karynnj]

26. They were some joking lines in a stump speech he likely didn't think

to change. They do not make fun of Edwards or HRC. He makes fun of himself - they gave high level big issue responses - he in essence says that he has a messy desk. Though that may warm the hearts of people who were told they would never be successful if they couldn't keep their desks neat - as one of my kids was told in third grade - there is nothing to get upset about.

[DUyellow]

33. I MY GOSH... It is even worse, check out what else he said....

Oh wait, we can't do that that because, once again, we have another DU poster who will post clipped videos without putting it in full context. Shame on you.

[oviedodem]

34. You people are pathetic and gullible. Mind you they left out what

Hillary said as well. He was not mocking anyone if you actually SAW the debate he was referencing. It is a wonder anyone on this board will vote for the nominee if it not the one they want.