Clinton beats Obama on national security 80% to 17%. Would be 99-1 if she didn't cry?

[Proud2BAmurkin]

According to the ABC poll she is also 8 points ahead AMONG DEMOCRATS for handling Iraq.

:shrug:

[ORDagnabbit]

1. we wouldnt be in frigging iraq if she and others hadnt voted to pre-emptively go to war against a

country that never attacked us!!!

[maddiejoan]

2. OMG

IWR was NOT a vote for pre-emptive War.

"My vote is not, however, a vote for any new doctrine of pre-emption, or for uni-lateralism, or for the arrogance of American power or purpose -- all of which carry grave dangers for our nation, for the rule of international law and for the peace and security of people throughout the world."

[avaistheone1]

3. The Obama people are conveniently trying to forget that.

[VolcanoJen]

6. To the contrary.

It actually was a vote to go to war, which is why so many of us here at DU were outraged and damned angry when the vote went down. If anyone is rewriting history, or trying to re-characterize what the IWR was really about, it is Senator Clinton.

Here is what the Senators voting "aye" voted for: "The President is authorized to use the Armed Forces of the United States as he determines to be necessary and appropriate."

Do you not remember Senator Byrd's speech? Even Senator Kennedy says often that his vote against the IWR was the best vote he ever cast in 44 years in the Senate.

I was angry with Senator Kerry in 2004 for trying to pull this same rheotorical trick in the primary.

[ORDagnabbit]

4. hello.... .I said iraq she clinton...oh crocodile tear dropper voted for the iraq IRAQ war...

[maddiejoan]

5. ???

speak english?

[gasoline highway]

7. Headlines the day after the vote

 	

I'll let these speak for themselves, Hillary supporters you
can make up your own mind:

"Congress Backs War On Iraq; Bipartisan Vote Gives Bush
Broad Power; President Lauds Clear Message Sent" [Los
Angeles Times, 10/11/02]

"Congress OKs War Bill ; Dems Join Vote To Back Bush On
Iraq" [New York Post, 10/11/02]

"Congress OKs War Power; The resolution lets Bush use
force in Iraq" [Philadelphia Inquirer, 10/11/02]

"Iraq Resolution Approved; Congress Gives Bush A Free
Hand To Wage War" [Seattle Post-Intelligencer, 10/11/02]

"Bush Wins War Vote" [Boston Herald, 10/11/02]

"Congress OKs War On Iraq; Days Numbered For 'Outlaw
State,' President Bush Says As He Gets Approval To Attack
With Or Without U.N." [Atlanta Journal-Constitution,
10/11/02]

"Bush Gets Authority For War On Iraq" [Newark Star
Ledger, 10/11/02]

"A Step Closer To War; House, Senate Approve War
Powers" [Minneapolis Star-Tribune, 10/11/02]

"Iraq Attack OK'd On Hill Solid Support In Senate,
House" [New York Daily News, 10/11/02]

"Congress Signs Off On War; A Lopsided Vote Gives The
President The Go-Ahead To Use Military Force Against 'The
Continuing Threat' Of Saddam Hussein" [Grand Rapids
Press, 10/11/02]

"Congress Gives Bush War Powers" [Hartford Courant,
10/11/02]

"War Looming With Vote; Decision Likened To Gulf Of
Tonkin" [Knight Ridder, 10/11/02]

[maddiejoan]

8. Big Deal

The Media was SELLING a War.

what do you think they'd have as headlines?