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Vyan Donating Member (990 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 03:34 PM
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I'm Still Voting for Edwards on Super Tuesday
Edited on Mon Feb-04-08 04:19 PM by Vyan
Crossposted on Dkos

I agree that both Barack and Hillary are outstanding candidates. Both or either would be a massive improvement for America.

You could contrast "Hope" vs "Experience" all you want, but there really isn't an incredibly huge difference between their positions and what either one of them is likely to do as the new leader of the free world.

I'm not voting for John as a "Protest", or simply as sour grapes because his message was never truly allowed to resonate with the public by the corporate media.

There's one simply reason. One simple thing that America can't afford not to have. Just one thing. One word.

SPINE!

Whether you liked him or not, whether you agreed with him or not - John Edwards fought the good fight. He's repeatedly stood up against the corporations who've been sucking us all dry and for those who had no one else willing to stand for them.

As Poligirl noted yesterday, his true supporters are going nowhere.

"Unity" is a good thing. "Change" is a good thing. But I simply have to ask - "Unity on what issue?"

Change into what exactly?

Have we forgotten what we're up against? Do we remember how pissed we were just one year ago? This was how I summarized it back then...

...this pack of rabid criminals running the White House and the Government have got you hopping mad with ignoring Richard Clark, ignoring the Cole, ignoring the PDB, ignoring the attempted invervention on Rice and the Crawford One-on-One with Tenet on Osama, Yellowcake, no al-Qaeda in Iraq, trumped up links between Saddam and 9-11, ignoring the insurgency, ignoring the Iraqi People, ignoring Afghanistan, Body Armor, Abu Ghraib, Tora Bora, Gitmo, revoking Habeaus Corpus, the Katrina aftermath, ignoring both Fact and Science on climate change and stem cells, the Voter Caging, Freedom Fries, the midnight ride to Terry Schiavo's hospice, the Domestic Spying, The NSL's, outing Valerie Plame-Wilson, Diebold, Abramov, Safavian, Guckert, the "fucking faith-based thing", the midnight ride to Ashcroft's bedside, the Partisan Purging of DOJ and Civic Rights Division, Walter Reed, the Cheney Branch of Government and most of all -- the endless lies and bullcrap about all the above.


We thought when the 110th Congress came into power in 2006 that they would change things, right?

How we doin' on Impeachment, eh? Where are we on the penetrating hearings into Bush Administration wrong-doing? Seems to me that Lorita Doan is still in the GSA despite numerous violations of the Hatch Act. When - oh when - will we ever have a vote on Contempt of Congress for Miers, Bolton and Rove?

Time and time again, no matter how strong their rhetoric, when Democrats try and move forward their agenda the Republicans would kick them down the stairs and take their lunch money. Conservatives not only broke the all-time world record on obstructionism in the U.S. Senate - they doubled it, while Democrats did literally - nothing.

Ending Torture? Ending the War? Restoring FISA?

Fogeddaboudit!

Each and every time Democrats were more concerned with trying to "reach across the aisle", not appear to "partisan", not "rock the boat" and the results simply haven't been pretty.

It's been disgusting. Fucking Pathetic.

Two and half years ago John Murtha stood up and called for our troops to be pulled out of Iraq. Republicans decided to embarrass him and other Democrats by voting of an ridiculous sham version his bill. Only three Democrats, including Robert Wexler (who had originally voted FOR the Iraq Use of Force), realized the error of his ways and had the backbone to vote against continuing the war.

Before 2006, John Kerry came right to Dailykos, stood up and called for the Filibuster of Alito.

Chris Dodd stood up to stop the FISA Bill.

Russ Feingold started an earthquake when he simply called for George Bush to be Censured. Not Impeached. Not Prosecuted for War Crimes as he should be - just censured.

While all this was happening both Barack and Hillary were right in the middle of it all and not once did they bother to stand up and show some backbone.

Not. One. Time.

Both of them have begun their health care proposals without banning pre-existing conditions, without banning incentives to deny coverage to paying customers (like Nataline Sarkysian), without an absolute unwavering commitment to ensuring that everyone is covered, and that run-away costs will be reined in. The fact is that once either their proposals hit Congress, their only going to get watered down and weakened.

That's not what I have "Hope" for.

There is no question that both Barack and Hillary would be better for America than either McCain or Romney - but right now I don't see any reason to believe that any of this will "change" if either of them becomes President.

Not unless we continue to DEMAND that it changes. Not unless we require that before either of them get our vote, they speak to our issues. That they come directly here - or to Dailykos - just as Kerry, Feingold, Kennedy, JOHN EDWARDS and others have done - and personally show us some spine.

All of these people came directly to the progressive blogosphere to rally our support and fight the good fight, could you imagine Obama or Hillary doing that as President?

Do realize how powerful that would be?

Do you realize that is never going to happen?

Neither of them is the candidate I want. Not yet. There's still time, they can still take a stand on something - anything - between now and November.

There's still a chance that they can show some passion and committment for something besides bickering with each other.

In the meanwhile, my vote on Super Tuesday will go to John Edwards.

Vyan

P.S. I'm not trying to argue that anyone take my position. It's mine, I'm keeping it.

Also this is not an invite for Clintonians and Obamites to try and pull me, at the last minute, toward their candidate. That's not happening. These candidates themselves have had plenty of time to Show me Something that I've been looking for, I've seen ALL the debates - they've had dozens, even hundreds of chances to vote in the Senate, dozens of chances to take a stand in public - to show the backbone that frankly I know that a lot of Dkos realize is what we absolute need - I don't think any surrogates can show me something they don't have.

Is Obama's idea of "backbone" talking to Ahmadiniejad (sic)? Really? That's "Bold"? Hillary's idea of a tough stance is that the Iraq War is all Bush's fault? Puh-lease!

Corporate interests and their lobbyists control this country. They either write the legislation themselves (like the Bankruptcy Bill) or they block it (Medicare Drug Price Negotiation) when it doesn't line the pockets of their overlords.

We absolutely need Public Financing of Campaigns. That is non-negotiable. Political Ads on TV need to be made available for free (paid for with tax offsets) to all candidates on the ballot with equal time requirements. This is the kind of change we need, but Barack and Hillary don't seem to see that.

These guys need a serious wake up call, both of them.

What we need isn't just "Change" - a swapping of the palace guard - it's Progress!

Vyan
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 03:37 PM
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1. K+R
Absolutely!
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ChiciB1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 03:45 PM
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2. Thank You So Much... His Campaign Is Suspended -- Not Ended!
Hang in there and spread the word! Some here are trying to get something together so he can get en ought delegates so that he can at least impact the GE Platform!!

Spread the word, PLEASE!!
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liberalhistorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 03:55 PM
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3. You wanna waste your vote on a candidate
who couldn't even stick it out until Super Tuesday and who wouldn't have any chance at all in the general election anyway, go right ahead. You're free to do so.
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Vyan Donating Member (990 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 04:01 PM
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7. That's not the point..
it's not about trying to defribbilate the Edwards campaign, it's about taking a stand and making a point to Hillary and Barack.

I'll support any Democrat over any Republican in the General, but for right now this is the only time to make a statment that True Progressives are not lock-step zombies. They're going to have to earn my support, and address my issues, not presume they have it simply because my voter registration says "Dem".

Vyan
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IndieLeft Donating Member (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 01:45 AM
Response to Reply #7
40. But.... Isn't it kind of like voting for Nader?
Seriously? Isn't it?
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unapatriciated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 08:37 AM
Response to Reply #40
43. no, this is the primary not the GE...
I see no real difference between Clinton and Obama, so to me it doesn't matter which one is the nomination. Edwards framed the debates and brought them back to the issues. Our votes for Edwards will remind them that it is the issues that are important to us, and hopefully they will listen.

Seriously? Are you suggesting we are enabling the repugs, with a primary vote?
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Leopolds Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 11:33 AM
Response to Reply #40
50. Voting for Edwards is like voting for Nader? He's too liberal for the general election? Spoilers?
Where are these bots coming from?
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peacock Donating Member (189 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 03:32 PM
Response to Reply #40
85. Seriously, it ISN´T!
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 04:03 PM
Response to Reply #3
11. Do you really think we don't know we're free to do so?
Thanks for your permission, though. Really.

:eyes:
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bpeale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 04:06 PM
Response to Reply #3
15. i am proud to also cast my vote on super duper tuesday for edwards
after that i am uncommitted (we have a caucus).
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Der Blaue Engel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 09:47 PM
Response to Reply #3
37. Wah, wah, wah
I'm so sick of this post. I've seen it about 1,000 times this week.
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kelligesq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 01:43 AM
Response to Reply #3
39. No comprehension that he forced the other two to take on his platform-changed the election & MSNBC
reporting this will be a brokered convention because it's so close.
Well guess whose going to be the broker? And both of those candidates
will be forced to take on more of John Edwards populist platform, which
is very good for the average American family.

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frogcycle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 11:10 AM
Response to Reply #3
49. better than wasting it on
someone shoved down your throat
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 03:59 PM
Response to Reply #3
94. voting your heart is not a waste..maybe you need to listen to what Obama says about delegates and
the general..

this is the primaries.. vote your heart.

fly
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Shine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 03:57 PM
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4. I've already voted for him.
imo, primaries are for voting one's CONSCIENCE. :thumbsup:
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smokey nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 03:58 PM
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5. K&R!!!!
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Scott from Mpls Donating Member (7 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 04:00 PM
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6. Look, I supported Kucinich
It was hard for me for a couple weeks to decide who I would support too. I thought long and hard about Edwards, Hillary, and Obama. It took me a while to decide between Edwards and Obama. I never have been over enthused about trotting the Clinton's out there again. I thought Dennis would have been best, but of course he was obliterated by the big money elites, kinda like you're guy.
So, I feel the pain of the former Edwards supporters. It took me a few weeks to get refocused as well. Right before Iowa, I switched to Obama. In part, because of Kucinich's endorsement of Obama as a second choice if people viewed him as unviable. Also, because I saw in Obama an excitement I have never seen in my life. I'm 49 and have followed politics since the late 60's and have never witnessed such a powerful campaign. I think any democrat who looks at statistics should be concerned about Hillary's negatives with independents and republicans. One study, I believe had Hillary's favorable opinion ranking at like 15%, whereas Obama was at like 56% with republicans. Why is this important? Well, you may want to poo poo the notion that if republicans can get out to vote this year for a candidate... it will be a vote "against" Hillary, all you want to, but I think the writing is on the wall.
And you can make me out to be some kind of rotten "Hillary hater". But that's BS too. I have defended Bill and Hillary a million times to my republican friends and supported and voted for Bill. I just think it's pretty stupid to run a candidate with such high negatives (true or not), if we want to win. Then I think it'll be just like Gore/Bush, or Kerry/Bush. It should make the election close enough for the repubs to fix it again. With Obama I think we have a chance to make the margin of victory high enough so there is no question as to the victor.
Look, I spent the last seven years hating what republicans have done to our nation as well, but at some point we need to stop poisoning the well if we ever hope to get good water out of it. And it has to start somewhere. Look, you guys can run Hillary if you want to and I'll support her, and we'll have the most vicious, nasty, mudslinging affair ever in the history of American politics in all likelihood, or choose Obama and at least have some semblance of a chance at changing the awful tone of political rancor today.
And while I agree that our heartfelt anger at the repubs may all be very well founded and we may be 100% right in our convictions, and passion, but I think we do need to be the ones to change the tone of the election by nominating Barack Obama. And personally, I'd be happy to talk about racism for next six months, over the royal BJ, the Clinton mob and every other right wing BS you can think of. Yeah, I'm for Obama, no question. And you Edwards people. I made the switch from Kucinich, and it hurt for a couple weeks, but I was never comfortable with Hillary's Iraq and Iran war votes. I just couldn't get past those. Anyway, that's my take as a lifelong dem, who will be caucusing for Obama here in Minny tomorrow.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 04:03 PM
Response to Reply #6
10. Dennis dropped out... Edwards didn't.
We have already evaluated both the front runners, and we don't care for either of them that much over the other... so it makes no difference to us which of them wins.

So... we're sticking with John.

Thanks for trying... and... uh... welcome to DU. Enjoy your stay.
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 04:06 PM
Response to Reply #10
13. Isn't it funny redqueen, I never recognize
the usernames of "former" Edwards supporters? :rofl:



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Scott from Mpls Donating Member (7 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 04:11 PM
Response to Reply #10
17. C'mon
Edwards dropped out. He conceded uh oh "suspended" his campaign. Well, I liked John and was sad he could'nt get more traction, but he did a heck of a lot better than my guy.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 04:12 PM
Response to Reply #17
18. There is a reason there are two different terms.
Do some reading, you might learn somethin. :)
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 01:11 PM
Response to Reply #10
57. Edwards SUSPENDED his campaign
who knows those of us who are loyal supporters of Edwards may prove our point that Edwards spoke for us. I am still voting for Edwards.
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Vyan Donating Member (990 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 04:06 PM
Response to Reply #6
14. I'm not a candidate stalker
who "can't get over" the fact that my preference isn't in the race anymore.

The differences between Barack and Hillary and frankly negligible, that last debate made that abundantly clear. I'm voting AGAINST both of them and FOR a genuine progressive agenda and het backbone to implement it.

I'm sending them a message.

They may not get it tomorrow, it may take a few more months but I plan to make sure it gets delivered.

Vyan
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iris5426 Donating Member (697 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 04:01 PM
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8. K & R!!!
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 04:01 PM
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9. I won't be voting till March.
But I'll be voting for Edwards. :)
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 04:03 PM
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12. I already have. In early voting. It's the right thing to do. nt
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puebloknot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 04:08 PM
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16. I will not be moved...
...from my right in this primary season to vote for someone with a progressive platform. I'm voting for Edwards and his "for the people" agenda.

The next President *may* be chosen by corporate/MSM entities. But we still have an opportunity to speak up, as American citizens, for the principles we value -- which principles have most clearly been articulated by John Edwards. Any clout we can give him to influence the vote at the convention will mean we still have a voice in our political process.

Great post. Thanks!
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H8fascistcons Donating Member (172 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 10:27 PM
Response to Reply #16
38. Sign Me Up
Tomorrow in California i'm voting for John Edwards, on a scale of 1-10, 10 being George Bush Fascist, Hillary is an 8 and Obama is a 7.5 Not a whole lot of difference from what we have now....
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desertflamingo Donating Member (152 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 04:14 PM
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19. SPOT ON!!!
i'm with you all the way, vyan! i'd love to share this with my friends who may be wavering. me? EDWARDIAN ALL THE WAY!!!

K&R :kick:
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 04:14 PM
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20. I am with you as well
:hi:
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 04:16 PM
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21. I stand with John..but since i already voted for him i have been writing friends all over the
Edited on Mon Feb-04-08 04:22 PM by flyarm
country and asking them..if they supported John before he suspended ..please continue to vote for him if their heart was in it.

John asked his name be put and kept on the North Dakota Ballot..and Obama's people were passing out a message that hsi vote would not count in Nj..that was followed up and is nothing but bullshit..

so all i can say is ..as someone who went and worked on his campaign..and who was one of his and Kerry's delegates in 2004..i have never met a finer man..and he deserves your vote.

fly

this is a picture i took of John the night of the election in South Carolina for his speech for his volunteers and the media..this is on his way to the podium, he stopped and said hi to me..and i snapped a picutre..
i hope this posts..someone put it in their photobucket for me to post.

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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 04:32 PM
Response to Reply #21
26. My Pictures of John election Night in South Carolina giving his speech.
My Pictures of John



























yes i was right up front next to the media photographers..and a big thank you to the DU'er who put these on Photobucket for me to share them here..( i still don't know how!!)...these are just a few of the Pics i have but i wanted to share them with people who love John and Elizabeth..and their children!!

They are a marvelous family..and i feel we will all remain part of their family forever..at least i hope so!!

They will always be in my heart!!

fly
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 05:04 PM
Response to Reply #26
29. You care sure feel the love in that picture and that is NOT the face of a man
who is about to drop out!
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 01:35 PM
Response to Reply #26
60. great pictures of John
I miss him.
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ChiciB1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 02:52 PM
Response to Reply #26
78. THANKS YOU SO MUCH For The Pictures!! these ARE NOT Pictures Of A Man
who would have ever "just dropped out" SUDDENLY!! And for all of you who think differently, well my BEST WISHES to you for what you may get! What is very disheartening is that "WE" who believed in him and REAL DEMOCRACY will have to pay the price too!

I've already been getting phone calls from BOTH camps to vote for Clinton/Obama in the GE!! Say much??

I told them NOT TO CALL me ever again, I was VOTING for John Edwards and it would be best if they took my message SERIOUSLY. One lady said... "Well, you know he LOST!" I had to hold back, but did politely INFORM her that NO, I don't believe he did.... YOU think he lost, but he only SUSPENDED and perhaps SHE should think about it! She HUNG UP ON ME!!!

I guess I had it coming, but I WAS NICE to her!

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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 04:02 PM
Response to Reply #78
96. you are a better person than me..i screamed at them never to call me fucking again!! eom
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ChiciB1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 05:53 PM
Response to Reply #96
100. Believe Me... I SURE WANTED TO!! n/t
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Plucketeer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 12:39 PM
Response to Reply #21
53. DAMN STRAIGHT!
Would you like a blue lollipop or a red one? What's that? Oh - no, they don't taste very much different. They'll color your tongue different, but they both have the same effect in your digestive tract. :puke:
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rodriguez94 Donating Member (270 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 03:46 PM
Response to Reply #21
90. I love it....
Do you see that hand in the lower left corner with the gold ring.....a red vest with the Edwards sticker...that's me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I was there too..but I left my damn camera and only could take cell phone photos..kinda or crappy. How do you upload photos? I may give it a try.


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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 04:17 PM
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22. My wet dream is that he will get a third of the votes on
super Tuesday. Maybe Hillary or Obama would get more than a third but that would place him at second and it would mean the three way race is still on.
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Vyan Donating Member (990 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 04:22 PM
Response to Reply #22
23. I doubt that will happen...
I simply don't want either Barack or Hillary to think they have this sown up and they can consider the progressives to be in their back pocket - not yet.

Vyan
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 04:24 PM
Response to Reply #23
24. I don't either, but I can't help what I wish for. n/t
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Fox Mulder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 04:26 PM
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25. I'm still voting for Edwards tomorrow.
:)
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ngGale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 04:43 PM
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27. K & R
n/t
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Vadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 04:45 PM
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28. 'm still voting for Edwards on Feb. 12 in Virginia's primary! .. n/t
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ccinamon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 05:23 PM
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30. STANDING OVATION!!!!
You have stated eloquently exactly how I feel. I will be voting for Edwards in the General Election, even if it is a write in.

I'm in Texas and I'm pretty confident that whoever the R is, Texas will be putting at least 52% of it's vote there. My vote for D woudn't much matter anyway...BUT, it might encourage some additional spine, fortitude, and progressive shifts in attitude and action with the Dem party!!!

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zalinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 06:31 PM
Response to Reply #30
32. Great, thanks for the idea
New York goes blue in the GE, so I can write in Edwards. I won't have to vote for either of the other two. :woohoo:

zalinda
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Ashy Larry Donating Member (900 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 06:26 PM
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31. I'm voting for Perot!
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Seabiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 01:38 PM
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62. Isn't he dead yet?
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troubleinwinter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 07:00 PM
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33. My vote- my ballot- my choice- my voice- is for John Edwards tomorrow.
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 08:03 PM
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34. So am I. nt
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balantz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 08:22 PM
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35. I won't vote for either corporate candidate,
I will be voting for John Edwards tomorrow.

The Democratic party and all of their oh-so-enlightened "friends" have abandoned the progressive movement in favor of empty symbols, but I am sticking to my guns and voting my conscience.

Some more delegates would be dandy, let's hope the word gets out loud and clear.

I am a progressive/populist liberal Democrat

and I am an Edwards Democrat

:kick:
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ChiciB1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 02:55 PM
Response to Reply #35
80. Hi There Balantz... Yes We ARE Edwards Democrats!! Thanks For
for hanging in there with the REST of his DEDICATED & LOYAL supporters. Some have ALREADY defected and I suppose that just SHOWS that perhaps they were ALL ABOUT a WINNER anyway!

I STAND UP for what I BELIEVE in! This time, I won't let "THEM" push me around!!
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kelligesq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 09:35 PM
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36. This A.M. I spoke to an attorney at our local DEC about John Edwards "Suspended"
Edited on Mon Feb-04-08 09:36 PM by kelligesq

This A.M. I spoke to an attorney at our local Democratic Executive Committee.

He says John Edwards wording of "suspending" was highly unusual.

(he thought John didnt have the money, but he does and more to come
with matching funds in March. He's for Hillary but mentioned John
has the best health plan!)


"Yes, it means he could come back in" he says

So "Suspended Not Ended" is the accurate slogan,


He also advises that delegates at the convention could draft John Edwards !!!


Some caucus goers are voting "Uncommitted" so they'd be free to vote Edwards at

the convention.


Its more important than ever that we vote Edwards and that Caucus goers vote

uncommitted tomorrow so that John can garner votes and delegates



Remind people they can vote for John Edwards, he's on their ballot in 24 States

tomorrow and in NOrth Dakota, Rhode Island, and other states later in Feb,

March, and April.


Get John Edwards the votes to get him delegates. He and We can make a difference

in this country


Go Edwardians for John Edwards, For Populism, For This Country, For Your Family

and for Yourself.


:bounce: Go for it John

Suspended Not Ended


P.S. This is really a grassroots movement and if anybody can make a sign please do it:

"Vote John Edwards" &

"Vote Edwards Suspended Not Ended"

and stand 100 feet outside of your polling place it'll be a big help .


We all know the media blacked out John's message because they're owned by 5 big corporations and John wants to return the power of the people to us, not the
corporations.
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Vyan Donating Member (990 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 02:50 AM
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42. Last I checked..
Edwards had more unspent money on hand than Romney.

Vyan
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 02:25 AM
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41. I'm with you.
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KeepItReal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 09:14 AM
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44. K & R
:-)
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PerpetuallyDazed Donating Member (806 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 10:07 AM
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45. This captures my thoughts EXACTLY!
I'll also be voting for Edwards. :yourock:
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vanbean Donating Member (957 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 10:45 AM
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46. Just waiting for 12pm so I can vote Edwards!
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balantz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 11:06 AM
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47. I'm walking down to the corner to cast my vote for Edwards in a few minutes.
:dem:
Vote for John Edwards!
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7horses Donating Member (143 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 11:07 AM
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48. I agree 100% Vyan
I guess I'm stubborn, but if no one gets a majority of votes, then the convention will e will open.
They could choose anyone on the 3rd. or 100th. vote in the convention. Gore, Edwards, Kucinich, anyone.
I voted early for Edwards.
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Individualist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 11:37 AM
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51. I voted for Kucinich!
Here's to everyone who votes his/her conscience! :toast:
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kelligesq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 12:36 PM
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52. TRUTH COMES OUT- TOM DASCHLE IS BEHIND OBAMA'S SUDDEN POPULARITY-That's not change-its same old same
Edited on Tue Feb-05-08 01:08 PM by kelligesq
been working on all his old connections since we voted him out i 2006 -
and replaced him with Harry Reid - we dont seem to be able to get a real dem
leader in the senate..

So Tom Daschle former Senate minority leader (dem) has for two years been working on getting all the old dem politicians - former congress critters
and current old senate and house critters WHO ARE SUPER DELEGATES lined up
behind Obama.

So tell me - how is that goig to be a change from the milktoast leadership and
dem action that it has been for the past 7 years and more....Daxhle couldnt fight
DeLay, Gingrich...he sucked

And that's whose training Obama.

One more dirty deal behind the scenes

I'd like to know which of them blocked Edwards tv time.
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ChiciB1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 02:58 PM
Response to Reply #52
81. Oh My... MORE Stuff!! With Even More Names Added To The List!!
Maybe we should just move to Iraq... I heard something about them working on Democracy over there!

Give me the update, okay??
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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 12:45 PM
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54. I voted Edwards, but it was a hard decision to make. I went back and forth for days,
At the last minute, inside the poll, I just wanted so much to vote for him that I did, even though I wasn't really planning to.
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 12:54 PM
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55. You went with your gut
Good move. We are sending a message to our party to not forget us when they put the platform (and priorities) together and to stop taking us for granted.
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mistertrickster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 01:04 PM
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56. It one needed any more evidence of the inability of Edwards' supporters to face reality,
here it is.

My guy was Howard Dean four years ago.

I had to face reality, and I did.

Get over it.
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kelligesq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 01:12 PM
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58. Edwards Suspended NOT ENDED - Go John.
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mistertrickster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 02:32 PM
Response to Reply #58
75. Unbelievable. Eat this herb and you'll live forever.
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peacock Donating Member (189 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 03:40 PM
Response to Reply #56
87. I regret I DID NOT stick with Dean
in 2004. I´m sticking with Edwards now. I voted for him in the TX primary.
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mistertrickster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 04:24 PM
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99. Uh . . . you can't stick with somebody after they freakin' drop out. Duh. nt
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maxpower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 01:23 PM
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59. I just voted for him
About an hour ago.
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Seabiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 01:38 PM
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61. I'm voting for John in about an hour. It's going to feel GOOOOOOD!!!
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MissDeeds Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 01:40 PM
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63. K & R
I am voting for Edwards, and will do so proudly. I believe in what he stands for and feel that he is the best choice to lead this country.
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classykaren Donating Member (127 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 08:12 PM
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108. me too n/t
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balantz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 01:48 PM
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64. Boy, that felt good!
I just voted for J.R.E., the true progressive democratic candidate.
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B Calm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 01:57 PM
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65. Great post!
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Buttercup McToots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 01:59 PM
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66. CT...I voted Edwards this morning...
:)
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Autumn Colors Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 02:05 PM
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67. Me, too ... in Torrington (nm)
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Buttercup McToots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 03:50 PM
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91. Bridgewater
:hi:
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Carrieyazel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 02:07 PM
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68. I'm voting for Richardson on Feb. 12. Being forced into Hillary or Barack is not pleasant.
I agree with most of what you've said. Except the part about Hillary and Barack being outstanding candidates. Their campaigns have not moved me one bit, vague generalities from Obama, and parsing crap from Hillary.
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 02:09 PM
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69. Good for you.
This Obama supporter has nothing but admiration for John's supporters and I've done the same thing myself. In 2004, I still voted for Howard Dean in the primary even though he was already out of the race. I felt great about it and I bet you feel good having done so for John, too.
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peacock Donating Member (189 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 03:41 PM
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88. Thank you
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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 02:12 PM
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70. I debated for a split second....
Edited on Tue Feb-05-08 02:13 PM by Gloria
to stop the bandwagon...
But, I'm sticking with Edwards ..going to vote right now! The other two are
not outstanding....
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trueblue2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 02:16 PM
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71. Goof doe you!! I would too and it's NOT WASTING A VOTE!
GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Edwards. I hope he is the VP on the ticket.
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 02:18 PM
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72. If Edwards really had spine, he would have stayed in the race
Edited on Tue Feb-05-08 02:19 PM by zulchzulu
He left you at the altar. My opinion, but that's the way it is...

That said, I think he let Edwards supporters down. All the best in your support of Edwards.
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farmboy Donating Member (147 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 02:20 PM
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73. Edwards Forever! Only one worth going to the primaries to vote for. Supporters for others should be
careful how you are coming across. You do more damage than good to your candidate towards those you'll need votes from in November.
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flasoapbox Donating Member (80 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 02:21 PM
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74. hai guyz...
...iz anythin importnt going on todya?
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ChiciB1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 02:44 PM
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76. THANK YOU SO MUCH!! I'm With Him Til The End... He Can Still
get delegates and even though my primary is over.... PLEASE Edwards supporters, he ONLY SUSPENDED his campaign... HE DID NOT WITHDRAW!!

LET HIM HAVE A VOICE at the Convention even though THE POWERS THAT BE have DONE HIM DIRTY!!

VOTE FOR EDWARDS in your PRIMARY, his name is STILL ON THE BALLOTS!!
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 02:44 PM
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77. I'm voting tonight for Edwards, or uncommitted... whichever is my option.
And, I don't agree that the other two are "outstanding".

More corporate government we do not need.
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RevolutionStartsNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 02:53 PM
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79. I debated and finally did a heart and gut check, and I'm voting
for Edwards.

I don't have to justify it to anyone.

If I had voted early, as I normally do, I would've voted for him anyway.

I'm not wasting my vote, or helping either Hillary or Barack -- their supporters will determine which one of them wins the most delegates today and in the upcoming primaries yet to happen -- I'm just voting FOR JOHN EDWARDS.

My sister asked me if it wasn't just a hollow gesture, but it's the only one that feels right in my heart, and my gut.

Thanks for this post. I'm off to vote.
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californiablue Donating Member (22 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 02:58 PM
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82. I voted early
for Edwards in California. I love him and was glad to be able to vote for him. :)
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Wash. state Desk Jet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 03:58 PM
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93. Lack of spine and shutters that go up
Edited on Tue Feb-05-08 04:05 PM by Wash. state Desk Jet
Sure, if you really don,t see what,s going on ,than you except hope is the best to be expected . So you hold out for hope under the false heading of change.They have collected millions and millions of campaign dollars and if you cannot see how much they owe as a result of those favors, than you think camalot, hope and fantasy is going to hopefully fix what is broken.

Sure lack of spine and the shutters go up when something very important is going down,-because they are players.

If we draft a real choice, we will have real change.

Otherwise you except things the way things are and if you think change is on the way as it stands, than look at the truth. Less spine and behind those shutters what you got is nothing more than lies and that,s the truth.

And isn,t that really the truth?

Have a cup of tea and think it over,
It is we the people that must fight for change.
Because they have failed at every attempt.
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ldsracer Donating Member (11 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 03:29 PM
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83. I don't understand
I liked Edwards too, but he really is out of the race for president. It's time to stand behind a new candidate. Sure you loved Edwards, but find what's most important to you and see which one has the best answers for you. I, for one have not settled for Obama, but have supported him from the beginning. If, however, Clinton does win the nomination I will find something in her that is worthy of my vote.
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peacock Donating Member (189 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 03:44 PM
Response to Reply #83
89. That´s fine!
We each need to make our own choices.

This is a supposed Democracy/Republic/whatever.

I chose to vote for JRE.
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peacock Donating Member (189 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 03:32 PM
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84. I voted absentee for Edwards in TX
Yes!

We need to make ou voice heard. JRE can still win delegates.

While I will vote for the Democratic Party´s nominee in the GE, I voted my best choice in the primaries. JRE speaks to me and for me.

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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 06:10 PM
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102. Good for you!!
:woohoo:
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Tab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 03:37 PM
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86. Thank you for wasting your vote
No one who matters gives a damn about any protest. You have a valuable chance to make a difference and you waste it.

If Edwards was a current candidate, I'd say go for it. But he's out of the race. Your vote was just lost.
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 06:09 PM
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101. Welcome to the list
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judaspriestess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 03:54 PM
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92. to all my fellow Edwards supporters
ROCK ON!!!:headbang: :yourock:
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TheDeathadder Donating Member (731 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 04:01 PM
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95. Well I'd rather see you vote Clinton or Obama
but I think it's still great that you voted for Edwards. We need to hear your vote, it needs to be cast. Staying home justs gets us nowhere. So yes - go out and vote Edwards

I'm voting Clinton (hey!! who threw that at me!?!)
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 06:11 PM
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103. If you are voting Clinton, you would rather we vote Obama than
Edwards? How exactly does that work?
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TheDeathadder Donating Member (731 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 06:44 PM
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106. because it's a primary
it's about letting your party know where you stand so we can shape our direction for the general election. This is how we did it when I worked for Kucinich in 2004. Vote on how you stand not on the horse race.

I'd rather you vote Clinton. I'd rather you vote for Clinton or Obama (active candidates) but if you are 100% Edwards still, I see no reason why you should not let the Democratic party hear where you heart and mind is.

I want Clinton to win but not by taking away the ground a person stands on. I'd rather someone vote on an active candidate Clinton or Obama but again not by taking away the ground someone stands on. If they still want Edwards, I'd rather you vote Edwards than not at all.

That's how it works for me.

I just voted Clinton. No Smoke and Mirrors. Just where I stand.
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 07:26 PM
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107. Gotcha -- thanks for the indepth. Makes more sense now!
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Mad_Dem_X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 04:05 PM
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97. Exactly why I voted for Edwards this morning
Come November, I'll vote for whomever our candidate is, but right now, I had to vote my conscience.
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cindydivine Donating Member (79 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 04:20 PM
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98. I am also voting...
I will be caucusing for John Edwards today in Kansas. We need to keep the momentum going... stand up for what we believe in!! I've given up on a lot of things in my life, but I refuse to give up on this.\

An Edwards vote is not a wasted vote. Keep his voice alive, vote JRE '08!

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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 06:12 PM
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104. Welcome to DU!!
Here's hoping for viability.

:toast:
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happygoluckytoyou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 06:13 PM
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105. EDWARDS STEPPED OUT SO OBAMA COULD WIN....HOORAY FOR EDWARDS!!!
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