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Summerza Donating Member (59 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 10:48 PM
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If Obama loses to Hillary, he can be president in 2012. If McCain beats Clinton, that is
...because if Hillary Clinton becomes president, she will be one of the best presidents in the history of United States. She will pass Universal Health Care, will fund embryonic stem cell research accelerating the quest for a cure for many diseases, will give gays many rights they lack today, will protect our environment, will withdraw our troops from Iraq, etc.

I know Obama can do the same, but in 2012 voter will ask, why choose a candidate who promises to do exactly the same things Clinton has already done?
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 10:50 PM
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1. that is if congress goes along, with or without a democratic majority nt
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neutron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 10:53 PM
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4. This is your LAST night of Smearing Hillary Clinton
You've been going at it for months.
Enjoy your last night.
Because your ASS is getting STOMPED up one side and down
the other.
You will be totaly History after tomorrow.
And you will WHINE WHINE WHINE
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 10:50 PM
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2. She's too polarizing to fix anything
That's half the problem. No Democrat will be President after her for the same reason we lost Democrats the entire time Bill was in the White House. They don't say what they mean, they're destructive, and their policies suck anyway.
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BlackVelvet04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 11:25 PM
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11. Nice RW talking point......
you think Obama is just going to skate by the republicans......they'll eat him for lunch. He has a lot of shit hanging out there that will get splashed all over the press and then it's be too late for the Democratic party.

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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 10:50 PM
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3. If Hillary had done those things they would done.
She didn't get them done and neither did her husband. I'd rather have someone with a progressive record like Obama.
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 10:55 PM
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5. She will never be President..... if Obama doesn't defeat her, McCain surely will....
She gets ZERO support from indies and crossover Repukes.

She would lose in the GE.


Obama is the Dems' only hope to not screw this up.
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BlackVelvet04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 11:26 PM
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12. Bullshit......
Obama IS the Dem's screw up.

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RL3AO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 10:56 PM
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6. Unless the dems get 60 seats, universal health care will not be passed in the next 20 years.
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meow mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 10:57 PM
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7. yeah right..
very little will be changed if anything at all, with clinton. except business will do well they can go with a republican or a clinton.
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 10:58 PM
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8. Clinton can't beat McCain. Don't fool yourself
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 11:19 PM
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9. the media wants Obama so Obama will win tomorrow - and lose to McCain
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 11:21 PM
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10. but if Hillary loses to mccain you can forget about the Supreme Court
roe V wade, civil rights, etc.
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 11:27 PM
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13. Is there an actual POINT anywhere in that gibberish?
Redstone
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lvx35 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 11:35 PM
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14. The prophecy shall be fulfilled. nt
Edited on Tue Feb-05-08 12:19 AM by lvx35
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lvx35 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 11:35 PM
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15. dupe.
Edited on Tue Feb-05-08 12:20 AM by lvx35
but the prophecy SHALL be fulfilled!!!

:)
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 11:52 PM
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16. How will she pass universal healthcare when she doesn't even
propose universal healthcare?

Once she's finished compromising with the repukes, all that will be left of her 'plan' will be mandatory insurance purchased from private insurers. She will abandon the gays, just like her hubby did. And the troops will stay in Iraq until they can be withdrawn 'honorably'.

If she is elected, she'll be there for one term, and it will be more tumultuous than all 8 years of Bill v BushCo. She will be unable to get ANYTHING done - but she will try, by stopping all investigations into BushCo's crimes, just as Bill did with Iraqgate, Iran/Contra, BCCI, etc.
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