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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 12:23 PM
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I'm so torn. All my family is for Clinton. All of my friends are for Obama.
Edited on Tue Feb-05-08 12:29 PM by Zynx
I do mean 100% in both categories. It's a good thing I don't feel too strongly one way or the other, but the contrasts are striking. I really do see the generational rift first hand between what my parents think of the candidates and what my friends think. They are all united behind one common purpose though: Get a Democrat in the White House.

For a little tidbit: All of my Republican friends are for McCain to a man. They can't stand Mittens or the Huckster. Some say they will stay home or even vote Democratic this year.

EDIT: I should clarify that when I say all of my family supports Clinton, that includes me, though I am by far the weakest supporter of her in my whole family.
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ingac70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 12:24 PM
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1. Don't follow a crowd...
follow your heart on issues you hold dear.
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Kittycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 12:25 PM
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3. Agreed.
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 12:25 PM
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4. I personally support Clinton by a 53-47 margin internally. haha
I really like a lot about both of them. It pains me to see such negative crap said about them.
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 12:24 PM
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2. To thine own self be true.
It is your decision alone.
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 12:26 PM
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9. I support Clinton, but it's a little hard on me.
I really do like both candidates. I like Hillary's lower key style better. It suits my personality.
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 12:29 PM
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18. Me too.
Edited on Tue Feb-05-08 12:29 PM by Deep13
As I side note I followed my head primarily and my heart secondarily in deciding.
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Pavlovs DiOgie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 12:25 PM
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5. You cant pick your family
your friends are much more likely to believe in the things you do.
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islandmkl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 12:26 PM
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6. take your time, make up your own mind...keep asking questions
and whatever you do, don't just say "OK, I guess I'll vote for (x)."
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goldcanyonaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 12:26 PM
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7. There's no soft support for Clinton is our family. She's the one for us.
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leftynyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 12:50 PM
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32. My whole family as well
And we run the gamut from real socialists to center left. EVERYONE is voting for Hillary on the experience issue. My friends also are voting for her. That's why it's confusing to me on this board - so much Obama support that I just don't see in my own little world. It can't be that she's our senator as I'm including family from California, Florida, Colorado (and I was most suprised by this vote for Hillary). There are two that say they wont vote for Obama in the general but the rest of us are sure we can change that around.
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 01:45 PM
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42. Same for our family.
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 12:26 PM
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8. Blood is thicker than water.
:)
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 12:30 PM
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22. It sure is. My family is the most precious thing in the world to me.
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 12:55 PM
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35. Greatest gift in the world, a family that loves you.
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 12:26 PM
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10. Do whats right for the Congress and Presidential Elections..Vote for Obama
If you want to win.

Dem Candidates running for Congress are praying for Barack to win
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 12:30 PM
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23. You know what they are praying for?
:shrug:
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 12:39 PM
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27. Yup......I'm working for 2 Congressmen in NC
And they need Barack to win. They can't have Hillary stumping with them
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 12:26 PM
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11. who do you thnk is wiser? who is better informed?
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 12:28 PM
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15. My family is infinitely better informed than my friends.
All we do is talk about politics and public policy. All the time. Half my friends can't tell you what Roe v. Wade was.
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 12:34 PM
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24. you said it. i didnt.
:)

make an informed choice.
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 12:27 PM
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12. As an Obama supporter, go with what your heart is telling you.
If it says Clinton, vote Clinton. Don't let the media, family or friends tell you how to vote. It's far too important of a decision to leave in someone elses hands.

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WolverineDG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 12:27 PM
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13. Vote for the person you think will do the best job
& hold your head up high. :)

dg
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NastyRiffraff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 12:28 PM
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14. You obviously have a lot of input from both sides
But in the end, it's your vote and your decision. Do some research. Decide which issues are important to you. Try to filter out the "X candidate is evil" stuff and concentrate on the positives and negatives of each candidate. Then, vote.

You don't have to be a strong advocate of who you vote for if you don't want to argue with whichever side disagrees with you. You don't even have to tell them who you voted for if you don't want to. It's a personal choice.
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 12:28 PM
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16. Just remember your parents grounding you, taking away your allowance...
...yelling at you in public, your siblings getting you in trouble, telling on you, your aunts and uncles and grandparents not coming to your defense when your parents were yelling at you in front of them and go with your friends.
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goldcanyonaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 12:29 PM
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19. lol! I always come back to family, myself.
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apnu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 12:28 PM
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17. Ignore both and vote your heart (nt)
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marlakay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 12:29 PM
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20. my daughter talked me into obama and
i talked my mom into him so we are all voting for him now. I was orginally for gore and my mom for hillary.
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Apollo11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 12:29 PM
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21. I think you should go with your friends on this one
That would mean voting Obama - right? B-)

I expect your folks will forgive you (if you have to tell them the truth).
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Karmageddon Donating Member (596 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 12:34 PM
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25. Isn't it nice to have to make a tough choice between two good candidates?
Instead of trying to decide who sucks less.

I'm also torn for a lot of reasons - most of them good. It's a matter of who I like more, not who is less of a disappointment. Either way, I figure I can't make a bad choice. Either way, I won't not upset if my choice loses. Either way, I'll gladly work my butt off to make sure whoever wins the Dem nomination also wins the general election.

This is the kind of tough choice I like to be stuck with. Not a bad dilemma at all, actually.
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 12:34 PM
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26. Question for earlier posters: is this really a "heart" issue?
For me I did not consider my emotional reaction until I critically examined the stituation. Please don't think I am pulling anyone's chain, because I don't mean to. I'm just wonder if following our hearts alone may have caused us to get stuck with some pretty crappy leaders in the past. Again, I'm asking.
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nonconformist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 05:02 PM
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48. I tend to agree. I know I, for one, am following my head.
And I think that's the biggest difference between the two camps. Obama supporters are more idealistic, while Hillary supporters are more pragmatic.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 12:40 PM
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28. Ask yourself the right questions.......
Which one signals a dramatic shift as to what America's values looks like to the rest of the world, including Europe and the Middle East? A Black man who conventional wisdom says that "no he shouldn't" although he is, or the highly connected Wife of a recent President?

No matter what their policies on details like health plan, which one has a more realistic way of getting their proposed plan through congress...because that is the health plan you will get no matter about good intentions?

Who's judgement do you trust when it comes to deciding on issues such as War and Peace?

Who would have coattails in November to provide us with a super working majority against the Republicans? The charismatic unifying and optimist (any is possible) Obama or the Safe but seen as divisive and calculating Hillary?

I know who'd I vote for.

a Safe vote provides for small returns, if any at all.

a Bold vote is for those who understand that it takes that kind of action to affect change.

John F. Kennedy was seen as risky and bold because he was young and a Catholic, and we had never elected a Catholic before.....and youth said inexperience.

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anyothername Donating Member (48 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 12:44 PM
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29. i didn't want to have to be the one to tell you this, but...
Edited on Tue Feb-05-08 12:45 PM by anyothername
your family hates you. they think you spend way too much of your time conversing with strangers online.

spite these hateful bastards. vote obama.
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themaguffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 12:46 PM
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30. It only matters who YOU support
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ZinZen Donating Member (599 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 12:47 PM
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31. There is a huge generational shift in
how people are voting. I am in my early 40's and am supporting Obama as are my same age or younger friends. My mom is voting for Hillary as is some of my older Boomer friends. I know it can be kind of tense but it will all work out in the end.
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MonumentMan Donating Member (14 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 12:53 PM
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33. in my family
everybody over 60 is voting Clinton

everybody under 60 is voting Obama

nobody likes Romney. Each Obama supporter likes McCain better than Clinton.
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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 12:54 PM
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34. I say screw 'em all...
and vote for Edwards! :evilgrin:
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riverwalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 12:56 PM
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36. ?
I am so confused by these "who should I vote for?" threads to even respond.
To me, the two candidates could not be more drastically different, on such totally polar opposite ends, with such dramatically different perspectives and motivations. :eyes:
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 12:57 PM
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37. How do we get you to be a stronger Clinton supporter?
:hi:
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LisaM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 01:02 PM
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38. Well, who's been right in the past?
Are your family generally involved in the process and do they pay attention? Or are your friends engaged politically who think solidly through the issues?
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 01:09 PM
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39. I think my family is far more deliberative.
My friends are pretty impulsive with a few exceptions.
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islandmkl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 01:11 PM
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40. to any who have advised "blood is thicker than water" etc.
I would say "Tell that to a bullet-hole." Remember this: the election isn't your family versus your friends. Your decision only belongs to you. Either way, don't find yourself 3 or 4 years from now feeling like you did the wrong thing by not choosing for yourself.
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meow mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 01:12 PM
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41. go with the age split...
young, obama..

old, clinton..
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 04:50 PM
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43. i am 29. i dont want to be called old yet
:P
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 04:52 PM
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44. You can pick your friends, but you can't pick your family....
...presumably, that means your friends are more likely to be of a similar mind to you.

In any case.... vote YOUR heart, not what anybody else says.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 04:53 PM
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45. Vote for Romney
Just a thought
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 05:41 PM
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50. thud...thud...thud...
:banghead:
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 04:56 PM
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46. The generational rift was very obvious in Iowa.
You could see it in the room at the caucuses I saw. Barack had people of all ages and races but mostly younger. Every single person in the Clinton corner was white and over 50. Most looked over 65.
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no name no slogan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 04:57 PM
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47. Give up your family and friends and vote Lee L. Mercer Jr.
all three.
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 05:04 PM
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49. Honestly, I was torn too. But I let the IWR vote be the decider for
me. I like Clinton very much, but she betrayed my trust with that vote.
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