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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 07:43 PM
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Menendez (SuperD): "I Will Vote My Conscience" , i.e., NOT the will of the Public
This has been a topic of discussion on Air America today, when Barbara Boxer said she would NOT endorse but, as a Super Delegate, would pledge to vote the will of her constituents. Unfortunately, not all Super Delegates are going to be that.. morally just.

Look for Clinton to try to win by pulling on Super Delegates and by trying to seat FL and MI. No matter WHAT the will of "the people" turns out to be.
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 07:46 PM
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1. For the final time, the delegates of MI & FL will not be part of the nomination decision.
"Look for Clinton to try to win by pulling on Super Delegates and by trying to seat FL and MI. No matter WHAT the will of "the people" turns out to be."

Does that mean all the SuperDelegates for Obama from CA and NY will vote for Hillary?

You sure are a bright one. :eyes:
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 07:49 PM
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7. There's no reason to mount a personal attack on me, rinsd. HRC has
already announced this plan, which is in direct opposition to the pledge she signed.
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 07:57 PM
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9. Perhaps because you are deliberately posting disinfo?
"I hear all the time from people in Florida and Michigan that they want their voices heard in selecting the Democratic nominee.

"I believe our nominee will need the enthusiastic support of Democrats in these states to win the general election, and so I will ask my Democratic convention delegates to support seating the delegations from Florida and Michigan. I know not all of my delegates will do so and I fully respect that decision. But I hope to be President of all 50 states and U.S. territories, and that we have all 50 states represented and counted at the Democratic convention.

"I hope my fellow potential nominees will join me in this."

"I will of course be following the no-campaigning pledge that I signed, and expect others will as well."

Note she is asking the delegates get seated, not that they be counted in the race for the nomination.

Add that to your bullshit smear about SuperDelegates and well I think my insult was fitting.
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pinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 07:47 PM
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2. Your assumption is that the 'super delegates' are a monolithic bloc.
Not so. While, yeah, they are not tied to the primary vote, most are elected officials, formerly elected officials, governors, Congresspersons, etc. of the Democratic party.

They play a role, but it is not inherently nefarious, imho.
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ORDagnabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 07:47 PM
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3. super delegates need to be removed from the equation...its all about control
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ursi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 07:48 PM
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4. wow, to have such an ego to think your conscience is bigger than everyone!
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 07:51 PM
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8. Wow, to have such animous you need to parse what I said.
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 07:48 PM
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5. I would hope so...don't we all?
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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 07:49 PM
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6. Just means Obama will have to work harder to win more delegates post ST. nt
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