CLINTON WINS CALIFORNIA! BLOWOUT FOR CLINTON!

[Clintonista2]

Obama momementum ended as Clinton wins key states!

[Tektonik]

1. don't be dumb, wait for the full results

[Clintonista2]

2. Clinton is now the projected winner in cali

[Tektonik]

16. of course she's going to win, but there will be no reason to gloat if the gap closes to 5-10%

considering all the states Obama has won

[Kittycat]

3. Don't spoil Lirwin's Boasting...

She wants to look classy like those that boasted her MO win. Oh wait... MO is so close we don't have a winner, and Obama is on top right now.

This is why people have to wait, and even still - it's delegates, not popular vote.

[angie_love]

8. Did you really expect Lirwin to be a graceful winner? LOL

[KAZ]

12. "It" wants to divide this board.

[lancer78]

27. Obama won

Missouri, all the precincts that were trending Clinton have already reported 100%. Only KC and ST louis are left.

[Seabiscuit]

32. So... will Obama announce tomorrow that he's dropping out?

I can't count the number of threads the Obamanoids put up about Edwards asking this same question.

[stillcool]

33. How many delegates..

does Obama have? I forget which one has more. Oh yeah...and don't they have to wait for the votes to be counted to figure out who gets the delegates?

[havocmom]

4. at what? 15% reported?

Dewy beat Truman too ;P

[greyghost]

5. Time to face reality Obama bots, it's VP or nothing for Obama.

[Kittycat]

6. Are you that clueless? Really... It's not winner takes all.

get with the math.

[greyghost]

11. No it's not but I've been around long enough to know Obama's push is OVER.

I suggest you get with the math and realize it comes down to the Super Delegates.

[krkaufman]

53. It will be extremely unwise for the superdelegates to overrule ...

... the votes of the people, as it will be to try to overcome a delegate deficit by seating the tainted MI & FL delegates. Assuming an Obama lead in pledged delegates, if you think the African American community, for one, will sit back while mostly white "party elders" hand the nomination to Hillary, and disenfranchising them yet again, you've got another think coming. It would be unwise, to put it mildly.

And the same is true should Hillary have the pledged/popular delegate advantage. Overruling the popular candidate risks splitting the party in half heading into the general election.

The winner of the pledged delegates, whether Hillary or Barack, had better be the nominee. And demoting the popular candidate to the VP spot on the ticket would likely not satisfy the candidate's supporters, either. Overruling the voters, regardless of which candidate, would be a less-than-optimal move making the MI/FL fiascos seem trivial.

[Clintonista2]

10. How about 4 years as "Assistant to Madame President" first?

He can fetch her coffee, take down notes etc. Let's see how competent he is and then maybe offer him a VP position when Hillary runs for her second term.

[greyghost]

17. Excellent idea.

[Kittycat]

47. Look at you being Klassy again.

Aren't you sweet.

[pampango]

51. That brought out a Big Ol' "Ignore".

[southern_dem]

7. What's the delegate count?

:P

Either way grats to Hillary. Nice win.

[AlCzervik]

9. but we won't know the actual final numbers until tomrrow, if the trend holds

it'll be a blow out but there are still many vots to be counted and i'm surprised they've called it already, feels to soon.

[MadBadger]

13. Just like Missouri, MAss, and NJ, Wait before you call it a blowout.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

14. Looks Like She TOTALLY Kicked Ass In CA!!!! Go Hillary Go!!

:toast:

[RiverStone]

15. Adding MO to Obama's total...

He won more states!

[Straight Shooter]

21. Who is calling Missouri for Barack? npr.org is showing Hillary wins Missouri.

I wish there were a definite tally someplace. They're showing New Mexico and California "too close" and Alaska "not called."

[RiverStone]

35. He is up by 5K w/98% reporting

OK, call it a lead....

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/primaries/results/state/#MO

[DesEtoiles]

45. Barack wins Missouri

[Downtown Hound]

18. Um, you are aware that only about 15% of precincts have

reported their results, yes?

[anamandujano]

29. Click here

[ronnykmarshall]

40. Can you give me the link for that map?

[Downtown Hound]

48. I can't click on it. It's a picture.

LOL.

[bicentennial_baby]

19. Oh wow. She was *never* expected to win CA...

:rofl:

[William769]

20. If you read DU she wasn't.

:rofl:

[KAZ]

23. you really have some growing up to do.

You're kind of embarrassing the board.

[William769]

24. For speaking the truth?

And I can point several threads just from today. :rofl:

[KAZ]

38. Laugh all you want, child. And I can show several threads

where I've stated my support for the whoever the Dem Nominee is. Your threads read like something out of a highschool yearbook. Little Billy.

[William769]

46. So are you now going to pout, take your ball and go home?

:rofl:

[thatsrightimirish]

25. so true

[loveangelc]

22. Like everyone predicted she would...

[AJH032]

26. How are the delegates divided??

is it only according to congressional districts or does a certain percentage go to the state-wide winner?

[pjazz19]

31. Far from over!

In fact...it looks like Obama has won more states.

Looking forward to the upcoming weeks where the Obama movement takes on the Clinton machine.

[CyberPieHole]

28. YEAHHHHH FOR CLINTON CALIFORNIANS SAY EFFF YOU TO OBAMA

:kick: and rec

[Clintonista2]

39. MASS. ALSO SAYS EFFF YOU TO KERRY

http://www.smh.com.au/ffximage/2004/07/27/28snap_kerry_wideweb__430x309,1.jpg

[ShadowLiberal]

30. Wait for the other 80%+ of CA to report the results

Don't claim a 'blowout' yet with that little of the vote in. And besides, we all know without Clinton's "get everyone to vote early while we're still ahead" scheme that she could have lost it.

[stillcool]

36. yeah I see that 17% has been reported...

and it hasn't changed in a while.

[William769]

34. K&R!

[stillrockin]

37. uh, not really

[DesEtoiles]

41. Uh...California is not a winner take all state. No blow out - extremely close.

[DesEtoiles]

42. Obama wins 13 states, Hillary 8

[DesEtoiles]

43. Delegate count for the night?

[goodgd_yall]

50. 760 = Clinton, 692=Obama

Total delegate counts

[comtec]

52. What is distressing is Clinton's lead is based on Super Delegates

Obama has more ACTUAL delegates, where clinton has nearly 90 more "super delegates".
The super delegate was the compromise made to the power brokers when the nomination system (primaries) was made a bit less corrupt back in the 50's (I think Dr. Maddow said).

Super delegates consist of Dem: governors, senators, legislators.

I think we are likely to see a end to THIS system as well if the nominee does NOT reflect the popular vote (that is number of delegates based on the primary system NOT including the Super Delegates) I know that in '00 there was a great push to eliminate the electoral college which was only stopped because * was selected, and the goper in office had no desire to fix a system that benefit them greatly!

It will be interesting to see how it all plays out.

For the record I no longer have a dog in this race. I'm over seas so when I sent in my ballot DK was my guy. With Edwards pulling out as well, I don't really care for either choice. I slightly prefer Obama because he is not nearly as (bi LOL) polarizing as Hillary is, and I think a Obama campaign in the general would be a sweep, as opposed to a very hard battle if it was Hillary.

[William769]

55. Actually Clinton has more delegate that are not super delegates.

Clinton 582

Obama 562

[comtec]

56. You are correct, but at the time Obama had more popular

The current posting on CNN.com is:
Clinton deligates: 632
super Deligates: 196

Obama Deligates: 626
super Deligates: 106

[Danger Mouse]

44. Sigh.

Ignored.

[farmboxer]

49. Republican owned right wing corporate Mainstream Media

is very disappointed!!!!!!!

[robbedvoter]

54. And that makes the win so much sweeter!

[Perry Logan]

57. With repeated practice, the Obama people will become better losers.

[Jamastiene]

58. I'm so glad I talked to a couple of friends of mine on the phone

from California Monday night. They were both headed in to vote for Obama without knowing the whole truth.

I told them about McClurkin and the ex-gay movement Obama was courting and they immediately decided they were going to change their votes on Tuesday. I feel like I was able to help Hillary out some and at the same time help out some of my own peeps in the GLBT community. I'm so proud of that.

GOMAMMA!!!!

[goldcanyonaz]

59. Great job! She's the one!

GOMAMA!!