Obama's preachery speechifying is already starting to get STALE.

[Tactical Progressive]

The usual problems: he reads intently from a teleprompter instead of speaking. Always scripted. Never authentic.
And such class, dumping on his primary competitor, unlike every other candidate who spoke tonight.

But beyond those, his Super Tuesday closing speech really fell flat this time. Same old same old.

I didn't think he'd get through the primaries before people started catching on to the emptiness of motivational rhetoric when it comes to Presidential politics, let alone consider how little that kind of talk has to do with actually running a country.

That seems to be the case. Tonight's speech, very similar to his others, was like a hot-air balloon getting low on fuel.

[Joe the Revelator]

1. It takes brass ones to call Obama "scripted" while Hillary is still in the race.

[ClericJohnPreston]

38. It takes an Obamite

robot to not see or hear reality.

[Tactical Progressive]

54. Obama has read every single victory and concession speech

straight off the teleprompters from the very start of his campaign in Iowa.

That's some kind of 'authentic', at least according to Obama and his supporters.

The other candidates, both Democrat and Publican, have for the most part spoken impromptu.

I guess they're not very 'authentic'.

It doesn't take brass anything to note the reality of Obama's scriptedness.


And anyway, this isn't about Obama being scripted. He is that, observably. This is about the effectiveness of his scripted preachifying, and I see it as becoming severely diminished. Others have started to notice it too.

Obamanots haven't addressed that reality even once, and I understand why not. They sneer back about the timbre of Hillary's voice in response. But everybody already knows that Hillary doesn't have a great speaking voice, and it is factored in to every vote she has gotten and will get. What is now starting to become clear is the vacuousness of Obama's carefully cultivated, totally scripted motivational preaching. And as charisma voters become aware, they are going to understand why so many people have been talking about political experience over feel-good rhetoric. Hopefully they'll start growing up politically, in realtime, getting past the stage where jingoistic bombast impresses them.

If I was an Obama supporter I wouldn't want to talk about it either. Which is fine by me.

[Radical Activist]

61. Or talk about authenticity

with Hillary's exaggerated smile she always has lately. A pollster must have told her to be more likable.

[K Gardner]

65. This from the people whose candidate requires earmuffs to listen to...

[ElsewheresDaughter]

2. I concur

[LoZoccolo]

3. Waaaaaaaah. n/t

[goodgd_yall]

4. You know what....

I was thinking the same thing---he's starting to say the same things over and over. And from the first, I always that was his gift. But after hearing him tonight, I'm thinking he needs to come up with some new ideas.

[krkaufman]

18. It did seem redundant...

... but one thing he needs to come up with is sleep.

[goodgd_yall]

50. That occurred to me too

I'm sure campaigning for Super Duper Tuesday was particularly grueling.

[pampango]

59. Imagine that - a politician repeating the same speech over and over during a campaign.

Go figure.

[Colobo]

5. Can't you be proud of our candidates?

[ursi]

6. you can always turn it off

[Faygo Kid]

7. You're full of something not contained in a hot air balloon.

You getting paid by Hillary to post here? This post doesn't pass the smell test. Balloon or not.

[Tactical Progressive]

44. Filled with honest observation and truth

And no, I'm not getting paid to post here.

I've been wondering how long before people get tired of empty motivational rhetoric and realize that political skills and hard-won experience in Washington DC is what it takes to run this country.

I mean, how many rah-rah speeches is enough?
I think tonight probably answered that question for alot of people.

[msongs]

8. sounded ok, more barn burner style than hillary's but both were fine nt

[sandnsea]

9. Hillary makes me puke

I literally have to mute the teevee when she comes on, and the thought of 4 years of it is horrifying to me - but you don't see me starting thread after thread about how much I can't stand her whiney nasally voice. Geesh. What a bunch of sore winnners.

[BootinUp]

12. Wrong thread.

[emilyg]

20. But you did manage to sneak your bile here.

[Straight Shooter]

39. Thank you for saying that and saving me the trouble.

I may have gone off on a rant.

[BootinUp]

10. I didn't care for it either. nt

[milkyway]

11. Then stick to watching Debbie Downer.

[msongs]

13. and the best part is John McCain's speech was DUMPED in favor of obama on CNN nt

[Frances]

14. I have already voted in the primaries

Now I just want to focus on positive things about both our candidates because I want to win the general election.

[CyberPieHole]

15. The Obama Ophra Donkey Act is getting stale...California didn't buy it...

:kick: and rec

[Maven]

16. His speech tonight was the weakest he's ever given

because it was full of attacks.

It wasn't just the content of the speech--he wasn't as smooth as he usually is when he was delivering the attacks, almost like he wasn't comfortable doing it. I wonder who convinced him to change his approach.

[krkaufman]

21. His speech did seem sleepwalked. I just thought he seemed tired/exhausted. n/t

[Arugula Latte]

17. You want STALE? Try years of Clintons. I've had enough of them.

[FrenchieCat]

19. Wow.....how low. Like Hillary's looking like she's all that!

20 Years in government, and she can't even beat a skinny kid with a funny name!

[emilyg]

22. You're right - he is a KID.

[krkaufman]

24. ageist n/t

[emilyg]

28. Tell it to Frenchie - she called him a kid.

[krkaufman]

32. Play nice. Only one used it pejoratively. : ) n/t

[Starbucks Anarchist]

26. He's the exact same age Bill Clinton was when he ran.

[Straight Shooter]

41. Post your pic, Frenchie, so we can assess whether you're "all that."

Honestly. You sound shrill.

[FrenchieCat]

47. Go to my journal and have a peek!

http://journals.democraticunderground.com/FrenchieCat

[Eurobabe]

23. Are you talking about McLame?

Please take your gun to another circular firing squad. :hi:

[BlackVelvet04]

25. It was almost as annoying as bush speaking........n/t

[stillrockin]

27. Yes, the stilted cadences and fake accents of HRC are much preferable.

[Arugula Latte]

30. stillrockin -- you DO rock!

:yourock:

[Tactical Progressive]

36. I've heard alot more of Obama's fake accent

over the past few speeches than Hillary.

Not that regional dialecting bothers me that much, but since you brought it up...

[Arugula Latte]

40. Nails on the chalkboard vs. Hillary's voice

I'll take nails on the chalkboard

[Ediacara]

29. His speech was a little long

Actually it was a lot long. It should have stopped probably 15 minutes before it did. Oh and he shouldn't have started while McCain was still talking!

[JimGinPA]

31. Yeah, I Much Prefer Hillary's Screeching Phoniness Too

:puke:

[truebrit71]

33. Yeah and Hilly's pointing at someone in the crowd and saying hi likes she knows them isn't fake..

...as hell...

My teenage daughter remarked how stupid HRC looks when she does that..."Yeah, sure she recognizes someone in the crowd..how fake is that?"

From the mouths of babes...

Your OP is weak sauce dude...very, VERY lame... :eyes:

[CyberPieHole]

37. But what does Barack Hussein Obama have to say about it?

[Binka]

49. Holy Shit You Did Not Just Put His Middle Name Into This

What fuckwittage. Sheer and complete assholeness. Fark off Mr Pie Hole and you should shut yours.

[AGirl]

34. I agree. His empty rhetoric is becoming pretty hollow.

[jillan]

35. I always feel like I am in church when I listen to him. Amen!

[Straight Shooter]

42. That's why his supporters are called "followers." n/t

[cbayer]

43. Who recommends this tripe? Really, I want to know.

[Tactical Progressive]

45. Mostly observant people I would think

Since you really want to know.

[cbayer]

48. Observant of what? Fake accents and nails on chalkboards?

[depakid]

46. The Aussie's are starting to think about that, too

From today's Sydney Morning Herald:

http://www.smh.com.au/ffximage/2008/02/06/060208_moir_cartoon_gallery__550x325,0.jpg

[rch35]

51. Classy. Straight from Australias version of News Corp. nt

[depakid]

55. Ummm...The Sydney Morning Herald is a Fairfax paper- and considerably left of center

Deal is, the average Australian is more aware and more politcally sophisticated than most Americans, so it's a tougher to pull the wool over their eyes.

[rch35]

64. ooops, haha, you are right, wrong newspaper

so i apologize for that.

no hard feelings? :)

[Indenturedebtor]

52. Yeah it sure is getting stale

To see a Democrat gaining popular appeal for once, all the while promoting Liberal ideals and policies.

You sound jealous. Did you know that? I would rather sound preachy than jealous and afraid.

FDR, Lincoln, JFK, MLK, Ghandi, all sounded preachy. Not saying he's done what they've done but I do believe he'll try. And I certainly don't mind that he sounds preachy. Do you want a leader or an accountant?

[Triana]

53. Got stale for me a while ago (n/t)

[joshcryer]

56. I wanted to start a thread about this, he bashes Hillary, she didn't even say anything about him.

It's fucking incredible how people will stand behind such a candidate.

[Iceburg]

58. Yup -- she praised both Obama and Edwards, and saved the barbs for the Repubs

Meanwhile, Obama is STILL sniping at(and mocking) Edwards and trying to trash Hillary at every occassion. Not classy nor wise... Even if he does win the primary he can't get there without Hillary's supporters --trashing them will not/is not goin' to win 'em over. Surely he's not naive enough to think the Repubs are going to come out en masse for him???

[RestoreGore]

57. He sounds like he's at a revival meeting... had enough of that for eight years

So agreed. Style over substance doesn't impress me.

[Perry Logan]

60. I think it appeals to some of his followers, who are authoritarian personality types.

[JackRiddler]

62. Maybe you should watch less TV of politicians...

Since there ain't a single one I can stand to hear more than once or twice. I find it hard to believe you got sicker of Obama than any of the rest of them, unless you've been overexposing yourself.

[bigtree]

63. There was a point where I thought he had gone on too far with the motivational part

It's very clever and inventive wordplay, though.