Hispanics were critical for Clinton tonight....Hispanics are not a factor in many upcoming tilts

[Perky]

That is a huge difference

[Renew Deal]

1. Not for a while.

Texas is coming.

[rwenos]

20. By "coming" you mean "seceding," right?

I'm still hoping the Texans will simply secede. I think they'd make a fine buffer state between the U.S. and Mexico.

[Bluestar]

2. deleted--dupe

[Bluestar]

3. Ever hear of Texas??????? n/t

[billbuckhead]

4. Texas and Ohio?

[Maven]

5. Ya know, and if someone else pointed out Obama's disproportionate lead in black voters

you'd scream RACIST

Just stop it.

[LoverOfLiberty]

12. Exactly

It might play amongst Democrats during the primaries, but that dog won't hunt in the General.

[Perky]

15. It is not racism if the Hispanic vote is tiny until Texas.. It is a fact.

It is a demofraphic element and it is an undeniable portion of Hillary's coalition

You can't pull them out of her wins in the Southwest and California. You shouoldn't it part of of her coalition and the third that ws Obama's is part of his.

But if you look at the Potomac Primaary, the demographic is no there for either candidate.

[nadinbrzezinski]

23. Perky I am hispanic, I voted for Edwards since I liked neither

at a policy level, where does that put me?

Inquiring minds and all of that... and I did considered Barack, but just could not bring myself to do it

[SaveAmerica]

57. Palabra!

[Maven]

25. Bullshit. Obama supporters cry "racism" if someone points out that his wins in SC and GA

were largely due to black voters, who are an "undeniable portion of his coalition."

You're doing the same thing.

The fact is, NO ONE should be downplaying the importance and the legitimate preferences of an entire group of people just to spin a primary result, EVER.

And BTW, who said the Latino vote was "tiny" in Texas? :wtf:

[Perky]

30. I am not didding Hillary's wins in CA. I am saying there are no significant Latinoss in DC Area

[Frances]

54. One word: Baltimore

It was AFrican Americans who made the difference in former Governor Paris Glendening's win for his second Dem term.

[NMMNG]

45. Shhhhh

Facts are a bad thing with Obama fans.

[tammywammy]

6. Honey, we have a lot of Hispanics here in Texas

[goldcanyonaz]

7. *cough* TEXAS *cough*

[rwenos]

17. Hasn't Texas Seceded Yet?

If not, why not? If not now, then when?

[tammywammy]

24. We're staying around just to piss you off

:)

[William769]

8. Now who's being the racist?

[rwenos]

9. Whoa! Hispanics are a factor in California

I understand now about 34% of the general electorate. This has huge implications for the relative struggle for economic resources, scarce jobs and political power, as between African-Americans and Hispanics.

Right now, if Hillary's margin holds up in California (there are ZERO results from Alameda County yet, and only 8% from Los Angeles), Hispanics will be a crucial reason why, and a major constituency for Hillary in November.

[Frances]

13. I read that Asian Americans are also supporting Hillary

in CA

[jackson_dem]

22. Yup. By 48 points. Bill Clinton is the one who made Asians Democratic in the first place

[BenDavid]

10. i guess it was all those hispanics that puckered both kerry's

kennedy's butts tonight....all those hispanics in oklahoma....tenn. arkansas....

i would suggest obama folks go easy on trying to degrade the hispanic vote....

[judaspriestess]

47. thank you BenDavid

so damn true.

Just another nail in the coffin for me and why I seriously dislike Obama. If this is the kind of support he has, he can stuff it. This is one Latina's opinion and I stand by it.

[xmas74]

60. I see we are on the same side here.

Some of the comments in this thread have been quite racist. (And why not? It just matches the sexism throughout many of the other threads!)

[CyberPieHole]

11. That is so frickin wrong...if anyone else said the same thing about African Americans...

[NJObamaWoman]

16. But even Clinton Pollster said that Latinos WONT vote for a black man

[sandnsea]

19. Well actually Bill Clinton did

in case you forgot.

[Proud2BAmurkin]

14. yup no Texas hispanics

[EFerrari]

18. This is the thing that I don't trust -- and, not as a Latina but as

someone who has tried to track election fraud.

The weekend after 2004, the talking heads kept saying that Latinos gave Bush the edge. That they came out for him in much bigger numbers than in 2000. That turned out to be bullsh!t but it was never corrected in the corporate media. In fact, Bush did LESS well in 2004.

Latinos are motivated this time out but we don't know what is happening yet. We don't have the data. But that doesn't deter the media from saying it over and over and over just like they did in 2004.

[nadinbrzezinski]

27. You my dear, win the price

a lovely perception award... I think it falls under bragging rights

[EFerrari]

35. People aren't hearing the mendacity. Well, we'll see, won't we?

:hi:

[DemocratSinceBirth]

21. Keep Crapping On Latinos

They are only the largest and fastest growing ethnic group in the United States...

[Perky]

28. I am not I value them immensely I am just saying they don't live ithe rest of the Feb Primaries

[Perky]

26. ALL I am Saying is there are no Hispanic Voters in the Potomac states

or Nebraska
Louisiana
Wisconsion
Hawaii

Ohio


and then you get to Texas.

[nonconformist]

43. None? nt

[xmas74]

62. See my post below yours.

I posted about growing up in SE WI and the large population of Hispanics I was raised around.

[xmas74]

61. None in Wisconsin?

I grew up in Kenosha, Wisconsin. If you weren't German or Italian then you were Hispanic. In kindergarten in the late seventies we spent time every week learning a bit of Spanish since the population was considered to be so large for the area. One of my best friends was half Irish, half Hispanic and the other was half Italian half Hispanic. And I have family throughout the area who have married into Hispanic family, as have quite a number of old classmates.

There is a bigger group there than you'd ever guess.

[rodeodance]

29. Blacks saved Obama tonight..........Blacks are not a factor anymore. Does this

work you?

[Perky]

37. It is not true either tonight or in the next set of Primaries to come

:shrug:

Nebraska? well we won in Iowa and Idaho and Utah

Lousiana is up this weekend large black population

Maryland Large black poplulation

Theses are facts.

:shrug:

[nonconformist]

44. "Iowa, Idaho and Utah"

These states have like 10 Democrats, lol.

[NJObamaWoman]

31. My main issue with all of this is what Clinton's Pollster said.

I think I wouldn't be bothered by latinos voting for the Clintons if I wasn't told during Nevada stuff that Latinos WONT vote for a Black man by a Clinton pollster. That offended me and brought about awareness. Then CNN hammered away at this point during a debate in which a latino man said he wont vote for Barack. He couldn't explain why, no reason or nothing which the reporter was giving him time to explain he just said he wont. Thats when my heart sank and I felt slapped in the face as a black person. Being Black History Month I realize that its now the Latinos who are the ones with the issues against black people.

At this point while I don't have any problems with Latinos I think that currently I don't care for "their" issues. I do feel as if Latinos are treated way better in terms of immigration than....Haitians which truly isn't fair.

[EFerrari]

38. Haitians and Latinos are just terrorized in different ways

by the empire.

The Clinton campaign has been promoting the idea that Latinos won't vote for Obama just as they promoted the idea that he was a "black" candidate. Don't fall for it.

[NJObamaWoman]

39. Yeah pitting Browns vs. Blacks has offended me. Thats my main reason why I wont vote for HRC

no matter what. I don't like race baiting. Her camp has done everything to enhance conflict between th two groups. Thats a no no in my book.

[EFerrari]

42. I'm so disappointed in the Clintons for pulling this stuff.

It just shows you how little they understand about it all, how it affects real people.

[murbley40]

59. You know, you must not listen to your candidates wife;

She injects race into her speeches all the time. When Hillary went to Sc what did she speak about?
She spoke about the tribulations of Black people."Our time has come",who is we?

[judaspriestess]

50. Congrats you win the first EVER ignore

honor for me on DU since 2004. Unbelievable. Your opinion is always very hateful. get a life! You do your candidate more harm than good. Oh by the way let me borrow one of your phrases from some other ridiculous post yesterday from you. STFU

on edit for clarification: this is for the Obama crap spewer on this thread. the new jersey one, I don't even know her name now that she's on ignore, good riddance.

[Frances]

56. The difference between the treatment of Cubans and Haitians

is just wrong IMO.

The excuse is that Cubans are escaping Communism, but I think it's just an excuse.

[Tatiana]

32. Bienvenido a Tejas.... n/t

[thatsrightimirish]

33. The Eyes of Texas are Upon You

I think there are some latinos in Texas

[jackson_dem]

34. Obama won big in Colorado. How'd he do that without Latinos?

He won Latinos in SC and Georgia. He ran 20 points better among Latinos in New Mexico than in California. Maybe Barack just ran a poor campaign with regards to Hispanics in California?

[rufus dog]

36. do they vote?

[Perky]

40. Ok I changed the OP Headline..because I can see how it might be viwed

I said "saved" I should have said they were critical to Hillary' wins in the west.


Good for her... she beat Obama soulndly.]



SH will not have that benefit in the Potomac Primary.

[EFerrari]

41. We don't know that she had it today.

We are being told that she did but we have no evidence that was a deciding factor.

Beware the wedge.

[Perky]

46. The exit Polls say she got 2/3rds. Now you can choos to say they are bogus

but the punits have been saying that she had a big advantage there.

[EFerrari]

49. They also say George Bush has been keeping us safe.

I really don't trust that kind of talk. We'll get the real numbers soon enough.

[Justice Is Comin]

52. The super delegates are

going to roll the rock over him and it will be Madame President. The Latinos will be mega huge in the general. The republicans will get jack rolled.

Biden will be the next to endorse her. I'd bet on it.

[NMMNG]

48. In other words,

Anybody who isn't on Obama's side doesn't mean jack squat to you. Fuck the atheists, gays, Hispanics, and whoever else doesn't fall in line and drink the Kool-Aid.

You're a great guy. :sarcasm:

[Perky]

51. Umm no that is not what I am saying at all.

Hillary spanked Barack but good in California.....ALl I am saying is that a major reason for that was that she pulled the Hispanic vote.


UI am also saying she will not have that benefit in the Potomac Primary... It is simply that the demographic does not exist.

[NMMNG]

53. I'm well aware of the demographics of the Potomac states

I used to live in that area. I'll not comment further.

And I've read enough of your posts to get your intentions loud and clear.

[Deja Q]

58. Ignore these doorknobs. Apart from their little realm, they refuse to see other POVs.

Never let anybody put words into your mouth. Amongst other things, that would let them get away with murder too.

[Iceburg]

55. don't forget the uppity women and the boomers! /nt