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AGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 01:22 AM
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If you don't think HIllary is the big winner today, THINK AGAIN.
Edited on Wed Feb-06-08 01:27 AM by AGirl
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Truth2Tell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 01:26 AM
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1. OK. I thought again.
And I still don't think she's "the big winner." Nice try though.
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 02:08 AM
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12. I think the key is to not think at all
Just turn your brain off and read the press release from Camp Clinton. That's the only way it makes sense.
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Whisp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 02:28 AM
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25. white people turn out for Hillary...
sounds a bit... ???
nah,


nah,
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REDFISHBLUEFISH Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 10:12 AM
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50. What about an 80% African American vote for Obama
Definitely sound like they chose by some non-political reasoning.

Very very...Nah...
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mahina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 01:26 AM
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2. This website is a yahoo screenshot.
I'm going to go run a full scan now, thanks a lot.
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AGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 01:27 AM
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3. okay bump.
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johnnydrama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 01:30 AM
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4. um
they're talking about California.

Ask Gore & Kerry if their HUGE wins in CA did much for them?
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 03:46 AM
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31. Kerry and Gore didn't need to win the CA primary. It sure helped Bill in 1992 though
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 01:33 AM
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5. Yeah. Sure. She NEEDED a HUGE win tonight. She didn't get one. Obama's going into
the next round in states that he is already strong and wih a huge money advantage.

Hillary had her best shot TODAY. And she was thwarted. For all the mocking that Hilary supporters have been doing tonight towards them, Obama and his team accomplished ALOT the last two weeks. More than TeamClinton will be able to overcome in the next goround.
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JeanGrey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 02:23 AM
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21. Stick a fork in her?
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niceypoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 08:32 AM
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46. Delusional
This is the kind of crap we hear from the right
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 10:09 AM
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49. Baloney - that kneejerk response is such a blatant crock and not even close to being
applicable to what was posted.
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mahina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 01:33 AM
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6. Hey by the way is there a reason you made a webpage for this screenshot?
Just thought I'd ask before I go hose off.
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AGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 01:35 AM
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7. I don't need to tell you.
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southern_dem Donating Member (587 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 01:36 AM
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8. It's a wash
You're welcome for the bump. :)
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 01:38 AM
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9. Yahoo changes their home page about ever 15 minutes
That will be up there at 12:00 pm to about 12:15 while most of the country sleeps. Then by morning they will have:

Obama takes 13 states to Hillary's 9

OUCH!
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 01:39 AM
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10. eh, are you so slow that you don't understand that that's
referring only to CA. How sad. Sorry, pumpkin, it's a tie. You can spin and twist and lie, but it won't change the facts, dear.
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 02:09 AM
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14. There you go with the condescending name-calling again.
Unreal. Stop being so angry. Be happy and filled with hope.
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CatnHat Donating Member (669 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 02:14 AM
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17. Is that why Hillary Clinton
Edited on Wed Feb-06-08 02:18 AM by CatnHat
is winning in the delegate count. You can try downplay the win in New York and California the two largest "delegate" states but you can't change the fact that Clinton is winning in delegates and "key" states. That's what counts. Like you said the simple facts are out there. Just go to any website and check out the delegate count so far. The advantage is all Hillary Clinton's tonite, not matter how you try to spin it; and I'm sure all the Obama camp will have their "talking points" in a few hours; spin, spin, spin; hope yo don't get too dizzy.
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RummyTheDummy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 02:22 AM
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19. How many "key states" are left for her though?
Tonight is already old news. The battle moves forward. Find me a state besides Texas that she can win without whoring herself out to Latinos?

Not. Gonna. Happen.



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leftynyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 05:14 AM
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34. I see someone is bitter about
the Latino vote. Care to share why?
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 07:24 AM
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43. "Whoring herself out to Latinos"
Are Obamaniacs born mean and despicable or did your messiah make you that way?

But Hillary thanks you. Because of that comment I'm going to her website right now and donating.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 02:31 AM
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26. It says "huge win" and is still up there. This will push momentum in her favor.
This is something many Obama supporters don't understand.
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mtnester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 05:23 AM
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37. Call tonight whatever you want , on the numbers that count
Edited on Wed Feb-06-08 05:35 AM by mtnester
A TIE is 1 to 1 or 2 to 2 or 100 to 100.


What a TIE is not is when it is 724 to 646 (as of 0516 2/6/06)...and right now delegates ARE what count aren't they?

Let's not forget our math now...724 is a bigger number than 646 isn't it dearie?




On edit - screen capture added of where I got the delegate count I am using

<a href="" target="_blank"><img src="" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>

sorry about the code Photo bucket is being weird
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mahina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 02:05 AM
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11. Spyware
crawling all over my pc after I went to that page. Heads up DUers.
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AGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 02:09 AM
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13. you are kidding me right?
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 02:11 AM
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15. That poster is playing games.
Gawd, the Barack followers are so bitter tonight. Barack did so well, but they're just angry all over the place. It's unreal.
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mahina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 02:28 AM
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24. No games, 4 critters so far,
could be a coincidence I guess.
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mahina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 02:36 AM
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27. Thanks for editing it so we can read your post
without going to that external 3rd party website.
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 02:11 AM
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16. Obama won more delegates.
That's the only thing that counts.

Your Yahoo screen shot doesn't change the big picture.
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CatnHat Donating Member (669 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 02:20 AM
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18. Sorry Clinton
won overall in the delegate count. Go check it out, and its not on the Drudge, trust me.
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Tarc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 07:23 AM
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42. Are you lying, or just naive?
825 to 732, Clinton is up.
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FunkyLeprechaun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 02:23 AM
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20. Uh No she was not a huge winner
She may have won two big states but Obama has racked up his state by state victories. He's got the most states and she doesn't.
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leftynyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 05:13 AM
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33. How many time during this
did we hear how it's the delegates that count (which I agree with). She won that. Obama won Mr. Congeniality.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 02:24 AM
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22. Yahoo! front page? That's just a photo with a spin headline! n/t
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 02:24 AM
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23. SWEET
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 02:37 AM
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28. Only because the MSM and DU Hillbots say she is. n/t
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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 02:40 AM
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29. If you figure the current delegate counts by rough percentages of vote Obama's ahead...
Edited on Wed Feb-06-08 03:35 AM by calipendence
... in today's counts.  Of course this changes from minute to
minute but here's the current totals from CNN:

State:         Del. Tot:    Obama:       Hillary:
-----------------------------------------------------
Alabama           52       (56%)  29    (42%)  22
Alaska            13       (75%)   9    (25%)   4  (*)
Arizona           56       (42%)  24    (51%)  29
Arkansas          35       (27%)   9    (69%)  24
California       370       (39%) 144    (53%) 196
Colorado          55       (67%)  37    (32%)  18
Connecticut       48       (51%)  25    (47%)  23
Delaware          15       (53%)   9    (43%)   6  (*)
Georgia           87       (67%)  58    (31%)  27
Idaho             18       (79%)  15    (17%)   3  (*)
Illinois         153       (65%)  99    (33%)  50
Kansas            32       (74%)  24    (26%)   8
Massachusetts     93       (41%)  38    (56%)  52
Minnesota         72       (67%)  48    (32%)  23
Missouri          72       (49%)  35    (48%)  35
New Jersey       107       (44%)  47    (54%)  58
New Mexico        26       (47%)  12    (49%)  13
New York         232       (40%)  93    (57%) 132
North Dakota      13       (61%)   8    (37%)   5  (*)
Oklahoma          38       (31%)  12    (55%)  21  (*)
Tennessee         68       (41%)  28    (54%)  37
Utah              23       (57%)  14    (39%)   9  (*)
----------------------------------------------------
TOTAL:                           817          795
* - Delegates fully allocated.

Delegates currently earned Hillary leads now 466-441
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farmboxer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 03:43 AM
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30. Hillary tried to give "We The People" Universal Healthcare
The Republican right wing corporate owned mainstream media hates her guts, and have been trying to destroy her for many years now.
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Iceburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 08:24 AM
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45. Yup -- the big pharma corps and the DC media have spent 2 decades trying to destroy her audacity/nt
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pointsoflight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 04:47 AM
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32. It's basically a tie right now, anything else is spin.
At the end of the delegate counting, it's going to be a very close race at this juncture. Then when you look at the rest of the primaries, it appears Obama has an advantage over the next month, and Hillary an advantage in the big states that come later. The nomination is totally up in the air at this point.
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leftynyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 05:15 AM
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35. Maybe brokered convention?
Political junkies like us should be loving this. (I assume anyone on this board is a political junkie)
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 05:37 AM
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38. Spin can be everything ...
... but Obama's 3-to-1 fundraising advantage in January may assist in reversing whatever twist may be put on tonight's results. The fundraising combined with the tie tonight puts Obama in a VERY GOOD spot.
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pointsoflight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 07:16 AM
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39. Yes, Obama is in a great position for the rest of February.
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 08:21 AM
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44. Agreed. It seems that way to me. n/t
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 05:16 AM
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36. I think both Hillary and Barack did well, I just hope the winners are
You and I.
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GalleryGod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 07:18 AM
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40. I Have an inkling what the "A" stands for Agirl.....
Edited on Wed Feb-06-08 07:19 AM by GalleryGod
Don't you dare lecture me,tootsie!

You can audit my classes, if you want to commute to Philly 3X a week?

:smoke: Save your immature & hyperbolic bullshiite for someone who CARES?
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workinclasszero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 07:21 AM
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41. OK I thought again
Your spin failed, sorry.

When Hillary runs out of money and Obama wins the next 6 primaries, get back with me. :evilgrin:
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 08:56 AM
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47. I just heard Timmy comment that the only thing that will unify
the Republicans in the general election is Bill and Hillary Clinton. Something to consider.
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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 08:59 AM
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48. argument by Yahoo screenshot
not too convincing imo.
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