OBAMA wins more states and more delegates tonight. Spin that.

[peoli]

[CreekDog]

1. As an Obama supporter, I demand each state get just 1 delegate

:think:

[Benhurst]

2. Great idea. Remember those maps with all the red which "proved"

overwhelming national support for Dubya in 2000? Yeah, if you count cows and empty countryside, that is.

:rofl:

[CreekDog]

4. Obama for president of red states, Hillary for president of blue ones

I think it could work. :think:

[nonconformist]

14. That is EXACTLY what this reminds me of.

The Obamites are comparing Idaho and Utah to New York and California.

[tabasco]

17. Delegates are based on population.

Do you have a problem with democracy?

[Benhurst]

18. But only Democrats (or Republicans, as the case may be) are

counted in the primaries. A Republican will win the Republican primary in the District of Columbia. What do you think the Republicans' chances will be of carrying D.C. in the general election? It works the same way in the rest of the country.

[tabasco]

21. No shit.

I was responding to a poster who implied delegates from some states count more than those from other states.

[nonconformist]

29. You think they have the same amount of delegates in both Idaho and New York?

Of course some states are more valuable than others.

[tabasco]

30. Do you think a delegate from New York is worth more than one from Idaho?

1 delegate = 1 delegate.

Learn to read.

[nonconformist]

32. My comprehension skills are fine.

Your response to my OP doesn't make any sense, though.

This does remind me of Bush supporters showing the map with all of the red in these low-population states, like it means a lot.

[tabasco]

45. Let's review:

You posted something along the lines that, Obama supporters thought geography was more important than votes.

I pointed out to you that delegates are based on population, not geography. Obama will get more delegates as a result of yesterday's elections. A delegate from Idaho is of equal weight as a delegate from New York. What part of that do you not understand?

Please explain how my post did not make any sense.

[lurky]

20. You mean corn can't vote?

:shrug:

[cooolandrew]

23. Nice in theory too open to manipulation though.

[tabasco]

3. Obama-friendly states coming up.

After tonight, I'm confident that Obama will pull this out.

[Mistwell]

5. Not more delegates

Obama will not be winning more delegates from today's election. Sorry, but that is just a fact, and anything else is just spin and damage control for Obama.

[DUyellow]

8. "damage control" you have to be kidding me, nothing damaging happened tonight

[awaysidetraveler]

33. Kidding? Look at California--the mythic polling state--and tell me nothing damaging happened.

We've been robbed. There's a 20% error askew against Obama.
That's damage.

How else can we account for it?

[DUyellow]

48. take another look...

[peoli]

9. ok call chuck todd and let him know.. im off to bed.

[scheming daemons]

10. Chuck Todd of MSNBC did the math... Obama will win by something between 4 and 25 delegates...

...so you're wrong.

[Mistwell]

12. Wanna bet?

He must not have seen the returns from California on a county by county basis, because Hillary is going to take more delegates than expected in California.

[jsamuel]

13. I think you're right. He probably split California 50-50 when it should go more to Clinton.

[tabasco]

26. No he didn't.

He gave Clinton a 34 delegate advantage in CA.

[awaysidetraveler]

35. More like Clinton stole it! I don't believe that set of results for an instant!

[rodeodance]

6. Spining is done by the obamababies.

[tabasco]

15. You were formerly a respectable poster.

Now you resemble a scientologist.

[SKKY]

40. Ouch! You pulled the scientologist card...

...this is getting serious. I love it.

[rodeodance]

41. thanky

[grantcart]

7. Oh Yeah Well Clinton will . .

raise less money so there.

[Mistwell]

11. Money?

I hear Romney won a lot of votes by raising more money...

or not.

[Steely_Dan]

16. My Candidate is Better Than Your Candidate...

Na na na na na na...so there!

[jackson_dem]

19. Where are Obamites getting this from?

Hillary leads 668 to 557 in delegates right now. http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/

[Azathoth]

22. That's including superdelegates I believe n/t

[jackson_dem]

27. Ah. I checked and it does

[Zynx]

24. Real estate shouldn't get a vote. People should.

I should note I oppose the electoral college violently.

[tabasco]

25. WTF are you talking about?

Delegates in the primary are based on population.

The electoral college is only for the general election.

WTF are you talking about, again?

[jackson_dem]

28. I think the Obamite talking point about him winning more states despite losing the popular vote

[tabasco]

31. Losing what popular vote?

Delegates are based on population.

[jackson_dem]

34. Obama lost the popular vote nationally

Delegates are based on popular vote by congressional district so they are very similar to district totals but not identical to the national popular vote. Obama losing the popular vote by 6 in Nevada but winning the delegate count is a good, recent example.

[tabasco]

36. I would wait until dawn to recite who won the popular vote.

I don't think those 6 votes in Nevada are going to be decisive.

[jackson_dem]

42. Hillary was up 49-48 with California only 25% in

Hillary's lead will only expand as the votes are counted in remaining states. New Mexico will be a wash and obviously Alaska will not make a dent into Hillary's California advantage.

Hillary won by 6% in Nevada but lost the delegate count. It won't mean much but it is an example of how the delegate totals don't fully mirror the popular vote statewide or nationally.

[tabasco]

46. Delegates are based on population.

It's likely Hillary will lose the popular vote in some states but get more delegates.

That will offset that huge injustice in Nevada.

[awaysidetraveler]

37. Mr. Jackson,

As of yet there is no validity to any of the national polls as there are no results.

However, there is an enormous polling skew against Obama in a number of states, including California.

It would be good at this point to start asking why.

[jackson_dem]

44. National votes, not polls, today. Hillary won it

[Straight Shooter]

39. I think you mean ...

You oppose it vehemently, not violently. At least I hope that's what you mean. :)

[Zynx]

43. I mean violently.

I would use violence to get rid of it if that's what it took. Fortunately it won't.

[rodeodance]

38. Delegate count: Clinton 625; Obama 564. 3:01 AM

Delegate count: Clinton 625; Obama 564. 3:01 AM


Democratic Primary Results
Real-time Race Results: Updated February 6, 2008 - 3:01 AM (all times Eastern Standard)
Totals indicate the number of delegates accumulated to date. Needed to win: 2,025

http://abcnews.go.com/politics/elections/delegates

[krkaufman]

47. Pretty damn impressive given where he was just over a month ago.

The whole congressional district allocation of delegates is confusing as hell (and should be changed to more closely match the voting), but it's a job damn well done. Kudos to BO and all his supporters.