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IsItJustMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 08:43 AM
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Does BO have a problem with the Latino vote or do Latino's just seem to favor HRC?
I don't know if this is a negative for BO or a positive for HRC. BO did get 52% of the Latino vote in Illinois, but that was his home state and the conventional wisdon is that he should have done much better.

I have no inside knowlege one way or another on this issue, but it is interesting and I would like to know why?
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sfam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 08:44 AM
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1. As long as the republicans hammer the immigration thing, I think the Dems have hispanics nt
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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 08:45 AM
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2. Rivalry between Latinos and African Americans plus
Hilary has a long long standing positive relationship in Latinao
Community
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ccpup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 08:47 AM
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3. The Clintons have a long history
of helping the Hispanic and Latino communities and these communities are expressing their gratitude with their continued support.

I don't know the history Barack has with these communities in Illinois, but I think if he had gone out of his way to forge a relationship with them (as the Clintons have done for the last 17 or 18 years) during his time as a State Senator, they would have voted for him in bigger numbers.
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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 08:51 AM
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7. They talked about a co-presidency and people voted them in.
She is every bit as intelligent and formidable as he is.

I will welcome EITHER couple -- Two Clintons or two Obamas -- to the White House.

Right now, Clinton has the edge because of experience, but I gotta admire the beautiful orator that BHO is.
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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 08:48 AM
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4. Honestly? I have a problem with calling him B.O. Regrettably, that set of initials
also stand (or stood) for "body odor." BHO might be better, and many people don't know what the H stands for. I'm not telling because someone bit my head off last year for inquiring about his middle name and that thread went on for a while after I bugged out.

Hey, I wonder if BHO watches HBO???

OK, this is just morning Obama drama, but no worries. It's NOT trauma! Just rhyming stuff. I like to play with the language.
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 09:02 AM
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Ha, ha I never thought about the B.O. association.
So it's going to be either an unpleasant body odor or radical Muslim association. Should do just great in the general.
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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 09:06 AM
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17. Riiiiiiggghhhhtttt. Are you old enough to remember the advertising for Mum?
It is or was an underarm deodorant.

They use the expression, "Mum's the word." Which means we won't talk about it.

There is also Bo -- Bho which might be a bad word in some other language.

The classic case of a poor name was the Chevrolet NOVA. When they sold it in Spanish speaking cities or country, they laughed about it. "No va" means "It doesn't go."

Perhaps you've heard that one!

CU@theDU
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IsItJustMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 09:06 AM
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18. I just go with what I know. When I refer to myself, I never use my middle initial
and never have and probably never will. With Hilliary, it is quit common to hear her middle name when she is being referenced. I never hear Obama referenced by his middle name, therefore I don't use it. In any case, I guess I should just start spelling out their names, but I am somewhat lazy.
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Dawgs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 08:49 AM
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5. My understanding is that he received 45% of the hispanic vote in Arizona - not too shabby.
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Zueda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 08:49 AM
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6. What future contests will the Latino vote matter?
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Satyagrahi Donating Member (254 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 08:52 AM
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10. Texas. n/t
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 08:51 AM
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8. Someone said yesterday that older Latinos gravitate toward
the Clintons and younger ones tend toward Obama.
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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 08:54 AM
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11. When choosing between a 60 year old white woman vs. a 47 years old black man,
Edited on Wed Feb-06-08 09:01 AM by Radio_Lady
it is a difficult choice and I do genuinely hope each of them will have the ability and the strength to work through all the problems they get from the * "legacy".

We cannot imagine what will crawl out from under the rocks after Bush's term is over.

I am leaning towards Hillary and so is my husband because of experiene. We are 68 and 73 respectively, and Caucasian seniors.

But Oregon has a mail in vote on May 20. One of the local station just did a survey -- 75% of their audience said Oregon would NOT have an impact on the country's November election. Luckily we don't to have to stand out in the rain at a local school or civic hall.

We're trying to unseat Senator Gordon Smith (R) this year with a Democrat. That would be a lovely thing.

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RoadRage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 09:00 AM
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14. Which mirrors the rest of the country...
Older whites go to Clinton, younger whites go to Obama..

The only demographic where that doesn't play is with Blacks, as they ALL seem to go to Obama.
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Satyagrahi Donating Member (254 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 08:52 AM
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9. I found this analysis by BBC Mundo quite interesting:
Latino voters set for 'Super Martes'
By Lourdes Heredia
BBC Mundo, Los Angeles

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Press reports have buzzed about racism as a possible reason behind the Latino community's lopsided support for Mrs Clinton, but experts believe that race is not the main factor.

"The tensions between Hispanic and African-American communities in parts of Los Angeles do not reflect the overall picture," said Miguel Tinker-Salas, a professor of history at Pomona College, California.

For nearly a year, the Clinton campaign has been advertising, making phone calls and sending mail to the Latino community, analysts say, whereas the Obama campaign started its "Latino outreach" too late.

"Obama was not well-known until recently at national level, whereas Hillary was first lady for eight years. Clinton also has been working with the community for much longer," explains Roberto Suro, former head of the Pew Hispanic Centre and now a professor of communications at the University of Southern California.

More:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7226093.stm
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IsItJustMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 09:00 AM
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15. Makes sence. Thanks for the info.
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moondust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 08:58 AM
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12. Not sure.
Perhaps something to do with competing for "most powerful minority" status or something, maybe name recognition more important, maybe more cohesively behind their leaders' endorsements, ??? I don't recall the Clintons doing anything extra special for Latinos that would weigh heavily at election time but...?

I'd also like to know.
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Apollo11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 08:59 AM
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13. Maybe it's because Gloria Estafan is supporting Hillary
La cantante aseguró que actualmente no apoya al presidente estadunidense George W. Bush, pues no le gusta la guerra.

"No soy republicana, ni demócrata, no confío en nadie, los partidos me han disgustado y creo que nos sirven líderes que vayan más allá", confesó.

La cantante confirmó que votaría por Hillary Clinton a la presidencia estadunidense "porque creo que la política necesita más estrógenos".

www.lasnoticiasmexico.com/110119.html

Something about politics needing more estrogen!
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calico1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 09:12 AM
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20. ....
Edited on Wed Feb-06-08 09:13 AM by calico1
La cantante aseguró que actualmente no apoya al presidente estadunidense George W. Bush, pues no le gusta la guerra.

The singer confirmed that she presently does not support the president, since she does not like the war.


"No soy republicana, ni demócrata, no confío en nadie, los partidos me han disgustado y creo que nos sirven líderes que vayan más allá", confesó.

"I am not a Democrat nor a Republican, I don't trust anyone, I dislike political parties and I believe that we need leaders that go beyond that," the singer confessed.

La cantante confirmó que votaría por Hillary Clinton a la presidencia estadunidense "porque creo que la política necesita más estrógenos".

The singer confirmed that she will vote for Hillary Clinton "because I think politics needs more estrogen."
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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 09:02 AM
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16. She has an institutional advantage
I think the Obam would get their support in the fall.
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 09:09 AM
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19. I think it is a matter of time for the Latino/a vote
it's possible that Obama could gain with Latinos/a in time
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calico1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 09:17 AM
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21. I think a lot of what has already been mentioned
is pretty accurate. I also think that until recently, Obama simply neglected the Latino vote or neglected it's influence. I think he was so busy courting the AA and youth vote that it just may not have occurred to him that this is also an important voting group.
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BadgerLaw2010 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 09:30 AM
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22. Latinos don't like hearing about how Obama is the black candidate and gets the black vote.
Make the race about race, get hammered on racial lines. See also: Asian vote.
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