Hillary, even winning she will lose. The media will see to it today.

[BenDavid]

She'll probably wind up pocketing the most delegates but she's going to lose. The Media will see to it. This is my observations for TODAY ONLY.(hrc will win the nomination)

It's unlikely she'll get out and out beaten across the board, but she'll still lose. She'll lose by not beating Obama across the board or she'll lose by not winning in every big state or she'll lose by not winning by a large enough margin in the states she's supposed to win or by not coming close enough in the states she's expected to lose or she'll lose by not getting the votes of the right demographic or she'll lose by not getting enough votes in the demographics that were going to vote for her anyway or she'll lose because not enough people tell the exit pollsters on their way out how excited they were to cast their vote for her.

Whatever, however. She's going to lose. She's going to lose because they're going to say she did
and they'll say it because they want her to.

AND, when this race is all said and done it makes no difference all the crap the whoremedia poured at her, hrc will be our nominee.

[Evergreen Emerald]

1. I give her credit for yesterday. She has withstood so much!

The media giving Obama constant positive press--covering for him when he used race to win SC. The media's constant attacks on Clinton--even this morning, after the win.

The story is that despite the media, Clinton is still standing.

She is amazing.

[Joyce78]

6. Her name should be Grace ...

she surely is amazing!

[ProSense]

2. Always whining! Obama only led in 2 states and defeated the Clinton machine in 14.

Summary

[Tellurian]

18. You mean the same states usually won by Republicans...(except for MA.)

:rofl:

[RoadRage]

23. I'm not sure why it's so hysterical to see a Dem win big in traditionally RED states...

I guess it's funny to do well in states that will be very important in the General Election? I guess I missed the joke? :shrug:

[Tellurian]

25. I guess you diid.. stick around..

[skipos]

3. Nah. Remember when Hillary was leading the polls in about 18 of the 22 states two weeks ago or so?

Yesterday was her triumphant comeback according to the media.

[ProSense]

8. They want it both ways, the media is unfair

and fair!


Wanting to have it both ways is also known as whining!

[alcibiades_mystery]

4. Hillary will likely be the nominee because she is the overwhelming favorite

She has an entrenched political machine with 20 years worth of favors to cash in. It's no surprise when Hillary wins.

Which of course begs the question of why the Hillary supporters are so strangely tied to their weirdo victim complex, and why they complain so incessantly.

[karynnj]

21. It is most mystifying when they do this when she wins

[Saturday]

5. MSNBC already started this AM.

Scarborough, Russert, Mica, Mitchell and Barnacle have only concentrated on the Obama wins dissing Clinton (as usual).

[Evergreen Emerald]

13. I saw it...I turned it off--and apparently many Americans did to

Obama should have cleaned up. And he did not. The American spirit is still alive and fighting.

[karynnj]

19. I didn't see that - they cast it as the race is near tied

with HRC up about 80 delegates when you include the declared super delegates going into some states that are better for Obama than the super Tuesday ones were. That's where the numbers are. They won nearly the same number of delegates yesterday.

[Tellurian]

24. Hillary is ahead by +97, almost 100..delegates

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/

[Alamom]

27. You are correct. nm

[cali]

7. What? Whinging again?

Pathetic. Typical but pathetic.

[MoonRiver]

9. Everybody knows it.

Even some media pundits openly admit it! I think there's a backlash against those asshats, though. The history of media bashing the Clinton is long. But if anything the blatant media Clinton hate fest seems to move people over to the Clinton camp, rather than away.

[ShortnFiery]

10. The Clintons and their supporters have played "the victim" card BEYOND Reality!

Why do you think that increasing numbers of AMERICANS, both R and D, are *SICK* of The Clintons?!? ALL OF THEM!!! :puke:

What? Is big dog going to get on the phone and have Tweety slobber all over Hillary Operatives another FULL afternoon? :eyes:

You folks are truly SHAMELESS. :(

[underpants]

20. Gee wonder who GE and Disney and AOL/Time Warner would want...

Hmmm a DLC'er in the hip pocket of every corporate interest that waves folding money around or some young upstart that no one is too sure about... hmmmm I wonder :think:

[debbierlus]

11. It is rather strange. She took CA by a large margin & she leads in Super Delegates

And, overall delegates.

She won MA. She won a few Southern states too. She took the biggest states. And, she was very close in the majority of others.

I am not saying it is over, nor that Obama doesn't stand a chance. But, I am with you. It is bizarre to watch her victory be spun as a near loss by the media. Obama's results were underwhelming despite all the hype. People keep trying to say that Hillary is the favored candidate but that is a huge pile of bs. The fervor is all Obama. The fact that she was so strong despite the media's fawning over Obama, shows she is poised to be a very strong candidate in a general.

[goldcanyonaz]

12. The media is nothing less than a Obama informercial.

[ShortnFiery]

15. I have a very difficult time believing that anyone with ONE ounce of objectivity can believe that?!?

One thing's for certain, don't even BEGIN to believe that, when the dust settles, those of us whom you've BLOWN AWAY in your "take no prisoners" campaigning style, will be in ANY MINDSET TO MAKE NICE. :nuke:

No, you've burned your bridges and there won't be "any troops" but those you see around you to "get in line." :grr:

Congratulations, it looks like The Clintonian DLC will ONCE AGAIN *select* our Democratic Party's nominee WHO WILL LOSE to the Republican Challenger.

Question: What's the definition of insanity?
Answer: Permitting the Clintonian DLC to RULE OVER our Democratic Party. :(

[Evergreen Emerald]

22. have you been watching the media? Do you remember what they

did to Gore and Kerry? You are sleeping with the enemy because they favor your candidate. But, propaganda in place of media is not democracy. And every American should be standing with Bill Clinton when he complains about the bias.

[ElsewheresDaughter]

14. all I hearing is Obama obama obama on all the news chanels...oh and Oprah oprah .....

the corporatemachine is hard at work to crown the man they know they can defeat in the GE.

I love Obama and I know he would make a great president but the facts are the facts.

my heart aches

[JorgeTheGood]

16. Hillary is running against the MSM -- not Obama. n/t

[karynnj]

17. From what I see the NYT and other media are covering reasonably

They are saying that the Democrats are still battling for the nomination in the wake of super Tuesday. In terms of total votes cast and delegates awarded, HRC and Obama were extremely close. This is an excellent result for both of them - neither was blown out.

The Clinton team likely anticipated 4 weeks ago, that this would seal their victory. They were 25 - 30% ahead in states like NY, MA and CA. Without a major new scandal or immensely significant faux pas, that type of lead a month out is extremely hard to lose. In HRC's case, there was no scandal or significant faux pas. There was also no exogenous event that highlighted something that Obama was better at. Can you site examples where that kind of lead disappeared in that time frame? (I'm not talking national polls, but state polls - so even Kerry in Iowa in 2004 wasn't a 30% shift in 4 weeks.) That gap closed - but still gave HRC a healthy win, though not the immense wins expected a month ago - which matters in terms of delegates.

The Obama campaign, 4 weeks ago, likely saw Super Tuesday as a daunting hurdle they needed to survive. The pundits were saying that to stay alive, he needed to stay within 10 to 15% of the delegates she had. The surge, which was real, got him well above just "staying alive", but in the euphoria of seeing his numbers improve, some especially the youngest and most excited Obama people started to dream of a massive victory with Obama winning every where - which did not happen. Obama will have a major test in re-energizing those people and getting them to accept that though he did not fullfill their expectations, he did do what he needed to do. (as did HRC).

I think one thing that was GOOD for the Democrats, but hurt Obama at least to some degree in NJ was that both candidates did exceptionally well in the last debate. I was asked by many when phonebanking if I thought they would be on the ticket together. (My answer: I know as little as they do. I'm just a neighbor volunteering locally.) Because the assumption was Clinton/Obama, this hurt Obama. In a broader party sense, this was better than the people who I quickly marked on the sheets as strong Obama, who volunteered that they loved Obama and would not vote for HRC in the GE - even though as a partisan I liked seeing the strong Obama counts pile up.

So, far, I see the media avoiding either camps extreme spin.

[K Gardner]

26. All the major newspapers and online mediums have her pic and headlines of VICTORY.. stop complaining

[mtnsnake]

28. Yes, they have MOM' S picture

in all the papers, but none of ME. :mad:

[K Gardner]

29. Chelsea ! I thought you were grounded over that fireman incident in CT ! Let's do lunch soon !!

[mtnsnake]

32. Oh, K, I'd love to have lunch with you soon. I'll tell you all about that firefighter when we do it

BTW, I wish I had more time to study Art when I was at Stanford because I love all of Maxfield Parrish's work, and I notice from your avatar that you appreciate those Deco prints, too. I would love to have majored in Art, but Mommy and Daddy (mostly Daddy) wanted me to major in History because they thought it would be more appropriate for when I run for President in 2020. Please keep that confidential, though.

[K Gardner]

33. You crack me up, kiddo ! You'll be a shoe-in for 2020 !

[Skwmom]

31. They want to try to portray Clinton as the victim of the big, bad

corporate media which is really ludicrous.

[Skwmom]

30. The corporate media LOVES Clinton.