How's That Kennedy/Kerry Endorsement Working Out?

[soundguy]

I think it is very telling that Clinton still won Massachusetts even with those two endorsing Obama. We ought to load all of the dead weight of the party on to the good ship Obama and let them all go down together.

The Lion opened his mouth to roar and his teeth fell out.

[graywarrior]

1. Do you people ever fucking stop.

Christ Almighty.

[MethuenProgressive]

11. Think about how poorly Obama would've done without Q-tip!!

Can you freaking imagine someone actually wasted DU bandwidth the other day posting that "Q-Tip" edorsed Obama? :rofl:

[elixir]

28. No. Kennedy and Kerry didn't help.

[graywarrior]

30. It's a piss poor way to express an opinion

I'm fucking sick of it all.

[beachmom]

34. Yes they did. What was supposed to be a blow out turned out

to be a state where Obama got a decent amount of delegates. Obama closed the gap from 37 to 15. Kerry & Kennedy were worth 22 points. Not bad at all.

But I understand why the Hillary people are spinning Mass., dissing Kerry & Kennedy. It's all they've got.

[graywarrior]

40. And to think I'm moving back there soon

I may have to kick some ass.
:P

[ProSense]

2. Here:

FYI

[MethuenProgressive]

6. That's just a link to some dumbass ObamaBot DU post, so no thanks.

Hint for all: Just roll your cursor over ProfessionalPoster's hyperlinks.
They seldom lead anywhere but to her own posts.

[ProSense]

10. Another moronic response from "some dumbass." n/t

[desi]

50. kick!

kick!
kick!
kick!
kick!

:silly:

[CoffeeCat]

3. Well....

...aren't you just a sparkling ray of rainbowy sunshine from Planet Happyface?

[MethuenProgressive]

4. As well as the Grateful Dead, Joan Baez, Oprah, and Q-Tip ones have...

Just think about how far behind Obama would be if Deval Patrick hadn't endorsed him!
:rofl:

[Little Star]

33. hahaha from MA.

:rofl: Wonder how Maria and Arnuld are doing this morning?

[TomClash]

5. And so goes a large chunk of the vote in the General Election

if your candidate is the nominee. Good luck with that.

Smart politics, boyo.

[stray cat]

7. I hope democratic voters have minds and know who the candidates are

I didn't see Kennedys or Oprah on the ballet - I didn't even see Bill Clinton on it. I didn't even see any newspapers listed as candidates.

[Evergreen Emerald]

8. I know! He had both Senators! Clinton did wonderfully

yesterday despite the odds stacked against her.

[alcibiades_mystery]

14. The odds were not stacked against her

She was leading in all polls in those states. You weren't the underdog. And you still aren't.

[Evergreen Emerald]

20. Have you not seen the media? You could not swing a dead cat

without hitting negative distortions and attacks against Clinton. She was not positioned to win.

Everyone predicted that Obama's momentum would clean her clock...and he did not.

I am pleasantly surprised. It shows me that the American spirit is alive and well and we are still fighting against the propaganda machine that sent Bush to the white house twice.

[alcibiades_mystery]

43. You officially know nothing about politics

"The media was against her."

"Clean her clock."

Jesus.

[Evergreen Emerald]

47. What the hell is wrong with you?

jesus your damn self.

[Mass]

24. She just had about every single other important endorsements in the state.

and a lead by + 35 % in the polls two weeks ago. Is it what you call stacked against her?

[Evergreen Emerald]

31. Yes. I saw the constant Obama adulation in the media.

I watched the daily constant attacks on Clinton by nearly everyone.

For her to still be standing after that--shows an amazing American spirit. For the fact that she won, despite everything that was thrown at her the past couple of weeks--she deserves a standing ovation.

[Mass]

35. LOL - Spin as much as you want. I am in MA. I kind of know that he was far from being a fav there.

[Evergreen Emerald]

39. really? Despite Kennedy and Kerry and the Oprah and Caroline show?

It did some swaying, as he came close. I assumed Mass was his with all the hype. I am pleasantly surprised.

[Mass]

42. He came the last day and she had a big show as well. May be from WA you did not see that, but

she got a lot of play here in the media.

[beachmom]

29. Please show me where Clinton surged in the polls? As in the stable

polls that showed her WAY AHEAD in Mass. and other states. Sorry, she performed lower than expectations. She did not surge anywhere, and Obama did have a surprise upset in Conn. right next to NY.

[Dawgs]

9. Still claiming a Hillary victory by winning the two states you should have won?

Not impressed.

[Island Blue]

12. I'll say this to you before putting you on Ignore, newbie.

Fuck off.

[beachmom]

13. Obama was down 37 points a few weeks ago. He lost by 15.

I would say Kerry and Kennedy did very well for Obama, thank you very much.

[krkaufman]

25. Perhaps not entirely as cathartic as ...

... fuck off!, as few other have opted for ... but more productive and to the point.

[Tarc]

37. Only the Obamabots can look at an F- turning into an F

and still claim victory.

[beachmom]

44. I had no illusions that Obama would win Mass. EVER. And don't

call me an "Obamabot". I am no hack, and call things as I see them. The fact is Mass. was a Hillary stronghold. She had ALL THE RIGHT ENDORSEMENTS back in the spring of '07 in Mass: did you forget Barney Frank? And half the State House? And the mayors? All those folks got the vote out. They were highly organized. Kerry knew what he was doing when he endorsed Obama -- he knew the odds were against an Obama win in Mass. But I think his endorsment of Obama is sincere. So if it means everyone will trash him for the next week, fine. He followed his conscience to endorse Obama.

Incidentally, here in Georgia, Hillary had the Machine (the old civil rights guard in Atlanta), but then stepped in it with her MLK gaffe and Bill's unfortunate remarks in SC. Atlanta's mayor endorsed Obama, and everything shifted Obama's way. So late in the game, GA was like MA. Did Hillary tighten it? No. Did Obama tighten the Mass. race? Yes.

Hillary is relying on her early lead, and is not getting new votes.

[Tarc]

49. If you act like one, I will call you one

Doesn't change the fact that this is pretty emblematic of the Obama run as a whole; close, but no cigar. A loss is till a loss; whether it is by 5 or 55 doesn't really matter all that much.

[beachmom]

51. I showed the facts, and you ignored them. This race is just about tied.

I still would bet on Hillary getting the nom, but not anytime soon.

I don't appreciate name calling. There are some "bots" on this board, but I am not one of them.

[angie_love]

15. We LOVE having Kennedy/Kerry on our side, I'll reiterate

what the above poster so eloquently said to you: FUCK OFF!. Kennedy is a great asset to our democratic party and hes done alot more for us than you ever did.

[krkaufman]

16. Pretty damn well, from what I can tell.

They helped make up huge vote margin deficits, keeping Obama in a near-tie on the delegate count and with a massive funding war chest to move forward.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

17. it's actually starting to work OK for Obama

Obama is just getting going. I wish that the Kennedys had endorsed a bit earlier.

[krkaufman]

19. Maybe, but too soon and it would have been ignored by the media...

... or people wouldn't have been paying attention. I think they got it about right.

edit: (it seems to have worked pretty damn well; he's the underdog and is tied at the half. he's in great shape!)

[Rosa Luxemburg]

45. Obama is in great shape and the money is rolling in!

[krkaufman]

48. Yep! n/t

[Adelante]

18. It would have been a good thing had Obama won Massachusetts, to my mind, naturally

But who really expected it? I didn't. Clinton was always winning Massachusetts except for one poll where they tied. It would have been a nice upset, but it wasn't. :shrug:

Your disrespect of good Democrats is loathsome, but I doubt that matters to you.

[krkaufman]

21. Exactly. It's not about the "wins" ... the endorsements and campaigning ...

... obviously helped immensely in cutting the vote margins and evening the national polling.

[Mass]

22. HRC + 37 % in a SUSA poll 2 weeks ago, HRC + 15 % in the actual vote. It is how it went.,

Thanks for asking.

[krkaufman]

27. And that means a big shift in delegates gained. booYah! n/t

[Bucky]

23. How's that "bringing the party together" working out

...unless, of course, you don't want the Democrats united. If that's the case, you're doing just fine.

[DS1]

26. -1 : Reason : Totally obnoxious

[MethuenProgressive]

32. Clinton supporters reject politics of the Past (Kerry, Teddy, et al.)

[ElsewheresDaughter]

36. from this Clinton supporter and voter.....I am asking you to please try & act like a grown-up

[Dawgs]

38. The endorsement worked out great if you look at last night's results.

Unless you only look at who won California and Massachussetts.

[Occam Bandage]

41. It went great. Obama went from leading 3 states to winning 13.

[themaguffin]

46. Hillary was always supposed to win by huge margins. The gap has narrowed.