The margin between Clinton and Obama in Calif is only 10% with 95% reporting

[ourbluenation]

http://vote.ss.ca.gov/Returns/pres/dem/59.htm

hardly a rout.

[busymom]

1. So much for Oprah ....

Only 10%? Two days ago you guys were in here screaming that he was going to sweep Cali...

[cali]

4. bzzzzt. I wasn't saying he'd win and neither were the majority of

Obama supporters. In fact, I've never predicted anything but a win for Clinton in CA. And even an idiot can tell that he made enormous gains in CA in the last couple of weeks- whether Oprah had anything to do with it is unknowable. Duh.

[Dawgs]

5. "You guys"

You got a link for that? I remember most people(Obama supporters) saying that it would be close, and Hillary would probably win because of early voters.

[TornadoTN]

8. Typical Clinton campaign response - "Divide & Conquer"

Sorry, but if you look back through the posts yesterday, most of us Obama supporters were very weary of the Zogby numbers. Most, if not all, of us thought that Cali would be close but Hillary would probably win it. Sure, some were happy to see the Zogby numbers but the majority of us know that polls are unpredictable and the smartest amongst us don't even trust them.

Congrats to the Clinton camp for their wins and congrats for making yourselves look like the pompous jerks that will kiss the Clinton ring.

[KittyWampus]

28. I fully expected him to lose. Remember all the early voting? I just wanted him 60-40 at worst.

[Colobo]

2. Obama got around 40%+ in the big states!

[alcibiades_mystery]

3. ONLY 10%?

That's like half a million votes, no?

[Freddie Stubbs]

10. 375,009 votes

http://vote.ss.ca.gov/Returns/pres/dem/59.htm

[ourbluenation]

21. It's all relative, isn't it. n/t

[sunonmars]

6. ha so much for the +13 from Zogby - She took Cali proudly

[Maribelle]

9. That's a 23% error!!!! This can only be corrupt.

I think the DNC needs to get on top of this.

[ourbluenation]

19. 4 people in my family tried to vote (for Obama) and all had ballot/polling problems = no votes 4 BO

and they are spread out all over the state.

[HughMoran]

7. Looks like at least one of the polls was accurate

[goldcanyonaz]

12. That poll was laughed at too.

[HughMoran]

27. Now it's gospel

"Oh, see, she was expected to win"

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[alcibiades_mystery]

16. So she was favored all along?

I agree.

No upset here.

[HughMoran]

18. Yep. Unless you like Zogby or Rasmussen or others

This was the only somewhat accurate poll.

[alcibiades_mystery]

20. Right, so nobody should be surprised she won California by 10%

She had a lock on the state for a year, at least.

Which begs the question of the general excitement over an utterly expected result.

[HughMoran]

26. lol

spin cycle on dry

[alcibiades_mystery]

29. What spin? They're your own claims!

"So she was favored all along. No upset here."

You: "Yep."

The poll showing her up by 10% was, in YOUR WORDS, "accurate."

So where's the spin?

:rofl:

[HughMoran]

33. I was being sarcastic

Survey USA was the ONLY poll that had Hillary up!!!!

Jiminy crickets - here - I copied the RCP numbers for you since you obviously are spinning without wanting to fact check:

[alcibiades_mystery]

34. Oh fer fuck's sake

Typical goalpost moving. sarcastic my right foot.

[HughMoran]

36. Facts

You misunderstood, and as usual, have never once admitted you are wrong - and apparently never will. :hi:

[alcibiades_mystery]

38. I don't admit I'm wrong when I'm not

And my interlocutor is a fucking liar. Ya got caught out there, and now you're like "Oh, me, I was kidding." Normal people would be ashamed of such tactics.

[HughMoran]

39. So when I pointed out that ONLY ONE poll showed her ahead. UNLESS YOU LOOK AT ZOGBY , RASMUSSEN and

others - you were somehow not "getting it".

I am baffled at your intransigence - it's bizarre!

[goldcanyonaz]

11. Only? 10% is almost 400,000 votes. Yeah, that's a close margin.

[godai]

15. Delegates likely to be closer. Haven't seen delegates awarded for CA yet. n/t

[alcibiades_mystery]

17. Obama won Cook County by almost 400,000 votes

Just sayin'...

[godai]

13. CNN still lists no delegates awarded. Is it that complicated?

370 delegates is a large number. Is an estimate of about 200 Clinton, 170 Obama about right, or impossible to tell?

[joshcryer]

14. It is district based so that adds a bit of complication to the math.

[meow mix]

22. so hispanic inability to vote for a certain people, saved hill

figures...

[Freddie Stubbs]

23. Is that any different than African American 'inability to vote for a certain people' which favors

Obama?

[Bad Thoughts]

24. Not so simple

Political culture makes it difficult for people of minorities to bridge the gaps between themselves. Most minorities are, in one way or other, in pursuit of whiteness--not literally, of course, but trying to integrate into a society framed by a Anglo-American bourgeoisie. Choosing certain candidates allows them to affirm this process, at least for themselves. The Hispanic population may have 'saved' Hillary, but not necessarily in the sense of a black vs. brown antagonism.

(Disclosure: I am Latino, and I voted for Obama.)

[LA RAZA LATINA]

25. So hispanics who did not vote for Mr.Obama are racist?

I voted for clinton becasue I like what she has done for us. We don't for color,or how they talk spanish, or eat tacos. We vote for those who represent us. The media thinks all hispanics want illegals here,turn the USA to mexico, and those who don't vote for a black man we are racist. Some may but not all of us. We are just like everyone else. But the media cannot seem to understand that we love America too.

[REDFISHBLUEFISH]

30. African Americans inability to see anything but Skin color benefited obama?

Thats your argument applied to your own candidate!

[Seabiscuit]

31. "Only 10%"???? In general elections they call that a "MANDATE". n/t

[magatte]

32. In the general election, you don't lose as many states as Hillary did and make it out alive...

:hi:

[Seabiscuit]

40. Why is it that Obama supporters on DU always answer by changing the subject?

Non Sequitur seems to reign as "first principle" in their arguments.

[IndieLeft]

35. AND Obama has the OVERALL delegate lead!

It's not the states that count... It's the delegates. And if it wasn't for the absentee ballots, he probably could have pulled it out.

[EFerrari]

37. Independent voters were screwed in California and they

seem to back Obama. I wonder how many votes that cost.