Clinton only has 7 possible wins left....would she accept a vice-presidential spot?

[Seen the light]

Being absolutely generous to her, her only potential victories left are in Virginia, Wisconsin, Ohio, Rhode Island, Texas, Pennsylvania, and Indiana. The SIXTEEN other states seem to absolutely favor Obama (Louisiana, Nebraska, Washington, Maine, DC, Maryland, Hawaii, Vermont, Wyoming, Mississippi, North Carolina, West Virginia, Kentucky, Oregon, South Dakota, and Montana.) It's looking very bleak for her based on the current voting trends by region/caucus vs. primary.

Now, do you think that Senator Clinton would go along as Obama's vice-president? I personally think that she would, but I'm not quite sure if she would be the best choice for him.

[joshcryer]

1. Obama would never offer it to her.

Ever.

[maddiejoan]

2. Why?

He'll need someone to brief him on the actual issues.

[yardwork]

6. LOL!

Great comeback!

[Cessna Invesco Palin]

19. Think about it.

If you were the President, would you really want Bill Clinton running around the executive branch being... himself? Unless you were Hillary, of course. It really is a "this town ain't big enough for the both of us" kind of thing with him. It's nothing specific to Obama. I don't see any Democrat really wanting to have Clinton as a VP. It's not a slam against her or Bill. It's just who they are. Bill is larger than life, and he'd inevitably clash with whoever was the President.

[TexasObserver]

22. you are right

Obama will not offer Hillary the VP slot if he's the nominee, and he shouldn't.

[KittyWampus]

23. Obama has the Clinton advisors who were RIGHT about Iraq. Why would he want Clintons

around to stab him in the back?

Then again, keep your friends close and your enemies closer.

[Yupster]

18. I agree Josh

Hillary might offer to Obama, but no way ever Obama offers to Hillary.

For one thing that brings Bill into the administration, and why would Obama want that?

[Window]

20. If offered, I doubt she'd accept.

Peace:thumbsup:

[elehhhhna]

26. McCain might, though.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

3. Last Time I Checked Texas Was The Second Largest State In The Union, Pennsylvania The Fifth, And

Ohio The Seventh...

[Seen the light]

4. Aw yes, but they still won't have enough delegates....

to match what Obama will be getting elsewhere.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

10. I Checked The Demographics

West Virginia and Kentucky will go the same way Oklahoma and Tennessee went...

[yardwork]

13. West Virginia is highly unpredictable.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

31. It Looks Like A Slighlty Less Prosperous Version Of Oklahoma

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[yardwork]

40. LOL! In some ways, perhaps, but a totally different culture.

West Virginia is the state that created itself by breaking away from Virginia at the start of the Civil War. WV is a mountain state, filled with cussedly-independent mountain people. It's highly impoverished. The mining and chemical industries are all over it, destroying the environment and using the inhabitants essentially as indentured servants. Bloody labor history. Predominately white. Overwhelmingly Protestant Christian. Scots-Irish ancestry. Used to be a Democratic stronghold, but it went Republican in recent decades - one of the "successes" of Karl Rove and the Christian right machine.

I think that OK is much more reliably conservative. WV is anybody's guess.

[Seen the light]

16. Let's assume you're right and it's 14 Obama wins and 9 Clinton wins

Clinton would have to absolutely dominate in these big states like Texas/Ohio/Pennsylvania by 60-40 margins to win. Don't see that happening whatsoever.

[Yossariant]

27. Pure unadulterated BS opinion. All Dem primaries are proportional.

[Seen the light]

28. You misunderstood me n/t

[Redbear]

32. The 7 states you list for Clinton have 886 delegates.

The 16 you list for Obama have 820 delegates.

Plus, its still going to be proportional representation.

Its really hard to imagine either one clinching this race without superdelegates.

One of them would have to win about 2/3 of the remaining primary/caucus delegates to get to 2,025.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

36. Don't Confuse The Poster With Facts

~

[Seen the light]

39. The 7 I list as POSSIBLE Clinton wins

Obama's are practically built in. And I know it's going to be proportional, but I expect the Obama blowouts he will receive will make up for any potential narrow Clinton victories in the states like Ohio and Texas.

[book_worm]

5. We shouldn't count our chickens before they hatch!

I would say that Texas and PA (two big states) are probably heavily favored for HRC. Ohio will be tough for Obama but doable. I think Obama will take VA, but I think WVA would favor HRC. It will be very interesting race and I don't see anybody having an inside track.

[Seen the light]

12. I'm actually not

I just wanted to make a thread to counter some of the WOW WHAT A CLEAR CLINTON VICTORY SHE'S GOING TO SWEEP TO THE NOMINATION garbage I've been reading since last night. :P

[yardwork]

14. Where are you reading that? I don't see anything that clear-cut here.

I can't even figure out who's ahead at this point. It's still totally up in the air.

[MadHound]

7. No, her ego is too large

Not to mention that after this bitter primary fight, I wouldn't be surprised if the Clintons took their ball, and their machine, home and stayed there.

There isn't going to be any unity ticket coming out of this primary.

[yardwork]

11. The Clintons didn't invent that behavior. I'm not happy about the Kennedy pile-on.

[ginnyinWI]

17. I think she'd take it so she could run in 2016

But I don't know that Obama wants to run with her.

[Tesha]

24. Can you say "Gore/Edwards"???

> There isn't going to be any unity ticket coming out of this primary.

Can you say "Gore/Edwards"???

Tesha

[yardwork]

8. I think that the message today is *we still don't know*

[ccpup]

9. where are you getting your information about those States?

Do you have Polls or are you guesstimating what will happen?

[Recursion]

15. No

A) I think some bridges have been burnt in the past few weeks, though I could be wrong

B) I think having a "Clinton" name on the ticket would destroy a lot of the Obama candidacy rationale

C) I think she can do more tepid-good in the Senate than the OEB

D) Assuming it's McCain getting the Sith nomination, Obama needs a Westerner (Richardson? Salazar? Boxer? Though if it's Clinton vs. McCain, you can pretty much write off every state between the Mississippi and the Sierra Nevada, just like we have for 40 years...)

[workinclasszero]

21. It will never happen

Especially if Hillary starts a convention fight to seat the Florida and Michigan delegates.

It will be all-out warfare between Obama and Hillary then. And sadly I expect she will do that.

[thereismore]

30. I agree with you, sadly. nt

[Onlooker]

25. Neither of them will take VP, but both might be offered

There are two kinds of offers:
1) A political one, which is designed to smooth things over after a big political fight.
2) A sincere one, in which the nominee spells out what powers s/he will give to the VP.

Clinton might take a VP slot if she's offered, for instance, the opportunity to lead the health care battle and heavily push women's and children's rights.

Obama might take the VP slot if he's offered, for instance, full support to run for president in 8 years and a leadership role with regard to getting us out of Iraq.

[BlackVelvet04]

29. Still haven't learned to not count your chickens before they

hatch, have ya?

[Nimrod2005]

33. No

[Iceburg]

34. Neither will take the VP seat if offered...

The party can't afford to lose 2 senate seats and further, both candidates would benefit from having military experience on the ticket. It is possible that if Hillary is nominated she might consider Colin Powell, Wes Clarke, or even Repub Senator John Warner (he retires this year, he the most respect member of the AFC,progressive voting record) and there are others but those 3 represent the spectrum from which Hillary might choose -- each for very different reasons.

[momster]

35. No Veep Either Way

For the simple reason they are *both* Northern Liberals. The ticket will require someone either from the South (hellooo John Edwards) or someone from the West...probably some governor somewhere. The West has been too long ignored by the Democrats in favor of seeking votes down South and it's time to change that if we want to bring in large numbers from Western states. I don't think Richardson will appear on the ticket just because he didn't pull in many votes on his own.

[Deja Q]

37. No. Because, with Obama incapacitated, she'd become President.

And given he ain't so white as the other contenders, that does put him at at an extra risk. :(

Sorry to think. This is, after all, GD-P...

Besides, this is GD-P. Land of hyperbole. Reality doesn't conform to what ANYBODY says.

[Tarc]

38. Overlooking the fact that those 7 have (I believe) more delegates than the 16

Winning big (geographically) states looks pretty when you throw pastel colors on a map, but winning where the people are more concentrated counts more.