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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 12:18 PM
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Missouri: Why winning a red state matters
To me, most indications are that the Democrats have two strong contenders. Consider that in Missouri about 552,000 people came out to vote in the GOP primary -- a primary that all three candidates seriously contested. By contrast 800,000 people came to vote on the Democratic side. If you put all five candidates into a single election, Hillary Clinton's second place showing of 395,000 would have trounced John McCain's 194,304 for third place. Both candidates, in short, are good at appealing to large numbers of voters and getting them to show up.

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Obama won MO with 405,284 votes.

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RubyDuby in GA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 12:41 PM
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1. Not only MO, but look at GA's numbers (ground zero for nutjob radical right base)
GA Dem votes 1,041,234 (Obama - 67%, Clinton 31%, Edwards 2%)
GA GOP votes 952,692

This is huge when you consider this:
Most recent contested Presidential Primaries...
2004 Democratic Primary - 626,813
2000 Republican Primary - 643,118


Obama made huge gains here, especially with white males. He can help our down ballot people, she cannot.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 12:47 PM
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3. Excellent! n/t
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PresidentObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 12:43 PM
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2. Hillary Clinton won most of the counties in Missouri, and all the generally red leaning areas.
Including my county of Greene County.

You can spin it however you want, but Obama won the counties with St. Louis and Kansas City and that's why he won. If Hillary had won Missouri with those two counties, you'd be bitching and moaning that she can't compete in red portions of the state and only wins the big cities.

And there was only one point difference, so both are getting delegates.

I think Missouri has 88, right? Including Super Delegates.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 09:10 PM
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4. In the GE there will only be one Democrat. n/t
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 09:13 PM
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jlake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 09:14 PM
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6. Yes, and Hillary was the one who pulled the red areas.
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xmas74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 09:19 PM
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7. She won my county too.
She had 54% in Johnson. Johnson voted red (nearly 70% red) in 2004.

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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 09:24 PM
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8. You need more than StL and KC to carry the state
Clinton will do better there than Obama.
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wildflowergardener Donating Member (863 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 09:34 PM
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9. red state
Edited on Wed Feb-06-08 09:38 PM by mbergen
Actually Missouri is not a Red state. It's more of a Swing state - which is why we have a democratic and republican senator, and have had both democratic and republican governors - and I am pretty sure Missouri went for Bill Clinton both times.

Kansas City and St. Louis & the surrounding counties can carry the state if enough people turn out for an election in those areas, which is mostly why Claire McCaskill is in the senate right now.

Meg in St. Louis
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