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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 12:28 PM
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T'was Just A Matter Of Time: Mark Penn Says Clinton Is Now "Insurgent" and Obama is "Establishment"
Edited on Wed Feb-06-08 12:29 PM by cryingshame
LOL! The Clinton Machine wants to be the underdog.

Hillary Pollster Mark Penn: Obama Has Become The "Establishment Candidate"
By Greg Sargent - February 6, 2008, 11:26AM
This one is worth keeping an eye on, because we'll be hearing more of it in the days ahead. In the Clinton campaign conference call I mentioned below, Hillary pollster Mark Penn repeatedly said Obama was becoming an "establishment candidate" -- a rather strained effort to use Obama's high-profile endorsements to weaken his insurgent appeal.

Asked about Obama's loss in Massachusetts despite the Teddy Kennedy endorsement, Penn again reiterated the fact that voters making up their minds on the last day had broken for Hillary, suggesting (without quite saying) that this was somehow catalyzed by Obama's new high-profile support.

"The more that Senator Obama has shifted to becoming an establishment campaign based on endorsements, people said, `You know, it's really Senator Clinton who has the ideas for change,'" Penn told reporters.

Again: Keep in mind that in advance of yesterday's contest, Hillary had a massive lead in Massachusetts for weeks. Anyway, we'll be hearing more of this.
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skipos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 12:29 PM
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1. Yeah, leading all the polls everywhere for months. She is such an underdog
and one who was against the war from the start at that. :eyes:
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 12:30 PM
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4. And the Clintons were strong-arming their donors to prevent them from giving to anyone else
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 03:17 PM
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10. Those polls were meaningless, it was name recognition.
The MSM successfully created a horse race, and now they're pulling back and are going to keep the race at a dead heat.
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 12:30 PM
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2. LOL!
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bunnies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 12:30 PM
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3. I want some of what he's smoking. nt
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BattyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 01:09 PM
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5. You can't claim to be an insurgent if you've already lived in the White House.
Just sayin'
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 03:14 PM
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6. DLC is the most ESTABLISMENT?
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bicentennial_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 03:15 PM
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7. Bwahahaha!
:rofl:

Again...

:rofl:
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NJSecularist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 03:15 PM
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8. Mark Penn could convince himself of anything
If he said the sky was blue, I'd look outside my window to confirm it myself.
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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 03:15 PM
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9. Bwahahaha!
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