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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 02:13 PM
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HILLARY CLINTON didn't just beat Barack Obama in MA, she whipped Kennedy and Kerry!
Edited on Wed Feb-06-08 02:14 PM by Tellurian
She beat Senator Edward M. Kennedy, the Bay State's liberal icon; Senator John Kerry, the 2004 Democratic Party nominee; and Governor Deval Patrick, the Bay State's purveyor of hope and optimism.

Politics doesn't get any more personal than the Clinton-Obama showdown in Massachusetts.

Kennedy's blessing threatened to give older, more traditional Democrats permission to vote with their hearts. It was a stab at the heart of the Clinton campaign - and a disloyal one, from the Clinton perspective.

Back in 1994, Kennedy was suddenly and shockingly vulnerable to a challenge from a rich, smart Republican named Mitt Romney. On the defense in his first real political fight in decades, Kennedy wrapped himself "in President Clinton's mantle," the Globe reported in June 1994. "I am honored to stand with him, day after day, week after week, month after month, in our fight for jobs, economic justice, and progress on the great issues like health reform," Kennedy told delegates to that year's Democratic state convention.

Both Clintons rushed to Kennedy's aid.
...Is Kennedy suffering from short-term memory loss?

"There is not a single, solitary member of the US Senate more interested in new ideas than he is. In the most partisan atmosphere in modern history, he is absolutely the ablest member of the Congress at getting Republicans to vote with him and work with him to make this country a better place," President Clinton told Massachusetts voters.

Hillary Clinton also campaigned for Kennedy: "Do not let the political climate of the moment undermine the record of one of the greatest senators who has ever served in the US Senate," she said at a September 1994 event....with friends like this, who needs...and why nefarious acts come back to bite you in the derrière..

In 2008, Kennedy didn't return the favor. Kennedy Country took on Clinton Country.

Now, that's personal. Clinton backers vowed to battle for a state that Bill and Hillary Clinton vacationed in, raised millions in, and nurtured for years. Clinton headquarters buzzed with volunteers the day before the primary vote.

"We'll do everything we can to deliver Massachusetts. Bill and Hillary Clinton never forgot this state," said Boston City Council President Maureen E. Feeney. Added House Speaker Salvatore DiMasi: "There are show horses and workhorses. We're the workhorses."

The workhorses beat the show horses. Clinton won.

http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2008/02/06/a_loss_for_kennedy/


http://www.taylormarsh.com/images2/hillaryclinton_wideweb__470x308,02.jpg

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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 02:15 PM
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1. So much for Teddy's clout, eh?
:rofl:
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 02:17 PM
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4. His brothers would not have been so foolish..as to risk the embarrassment!
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 02:15 PM
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2. Way To Go Hillary! eom
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NightWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 02:16 PM
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3. get over yourself


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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 02:18 PM
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5. When I'm ready!
:toast:

:rofl:
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 02:19 PM
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6. Funny how winning a state in which she was always ahead is viewed as a stunning victory
Remember when Hillary was going to run the table on Super Tuesday? What happened to that?
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jakem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 02:20 PM
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7. wait, who won?

Delegate count (per MSNBC) 838-834 OBAMA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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Dawgs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 02:21 PM
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8. Really?
I saw it as Hillary lost 15% of support to Kennedys over a week and a half.

I guess the Clintons needed to have some kind of victory yesterday.

'Yay, we lost much of our support in the past few weeks, but we still beat the Kennedys in California and Massachussetts'
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 02:22 PM
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9. Gee - forgot to mention she was FORTY POINTS AHEAD until Kennedy and Kerry chose
to help Obama make up some of that gap.

And Kennedy and Kerry's help translated into a big NATIONAL boost for Obama. How did Hillary fare NATIONALLY did her numbers go up or down?
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 02:49 PM
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16. Bushloving Clintons are feeling the backlash against their decades of deceit towards Dems.
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 03:05 PM
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19. Oh, glad to see when you're angry...you finally tell the Truth..
Get a clue: You confuse Clinton "jealousy" with the loser, Kerry's "deceit".

Just like he deceived his supporters, when he told us: "HE WOULD FIGHT for US"!

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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 02:24 PM
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10. I always wonder who you're trying to fool with posts like these
Even Hillary supporters are smart enough to see through this BS.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 02:25 PM
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11. Hillary got
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BlackVelvet04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 02:28 PM
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12. What's amusing is the spin that
because Obama lost by less than anticipated he won.
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 03:13 PM
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20. Considering the fact that he ROSE up to get his numbers while
Hillary DROPPED down to get her numbers,

I say that's right.

He's trending UP.
She's trending DOWN.

Who you want to back for the long haul?
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BlackVelvet04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 03:41 PM
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24. I back Hillary. n/t
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cloudythescribbler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 02:30 PM
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13. Advice to everyone: Read Melville's "The Encantadas" and meditate upon swarms of trolls and ...
especially that deep mystery of what BOTH have to do with this thread and the broader phenomena on DU that I have been noting.
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grassfed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 02:46 PM
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15. Hillary owes CA win to Kennedys
RFK Jrs Hillary ad featuring Cesar Chavez Jr with sentimental footage of RFK Sr and Chavez Sr ran constantly in CA Latino districts.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0G1BHXNufzU


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D23MIURG23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 03:01 PM
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17. Spin and BS.
Neither of them were running. The contest was between Clinton and Obama, and endorsements are merely recommendations.

If your senators endorsed Obama would you immediately run out and switch camps?
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D23MIURG23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 03:03 PM
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18. "Now, that's personal"
No, its politics. You should learn the difference.
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beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 03:20 PM
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21. You would be well advised not to quote McCain-loving Joan Vennochi
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 03:33 PM
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22. Just think... Kennedy made it possible for Republicans to gloat at his failure!
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laststeamtrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 03:41 PM
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23. The people in the mill towns voted for Clinton. The 'swells' voted for Obama.
The working class people don't care about endorsements.

That would be my take on the Obama loss in MA.

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