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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 03:31 PM
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Hillary's concrete ceiling she cannot break 48%
Because she has such high negatives there is an absolute limit to her higher positives

As this graph shows she can go up and down but there is a concrete ceiling that she has not been able to dent.



They know this and that is why they will be forced to go negative. If she cannot go higher she has to bring Obama down.
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TomClash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 03:43 PM
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1. Flawed
It has only been a two person race for about a week to 10 days. It is harder to exceed 50% when there are 3 choices.

She got about 50% of the vote yesterday.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 04:02 PM
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6. her stalling at 48% is directly tied to her high negatives and
has nothing to do with how many people are in the race
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 04:26 PM
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11. hey-see below
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 03:45 PM
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2. Dumbest argument ever...
Edited on Wed Feb-06-08 03:46 PM by Kurt_and_Hunter
Since Obama's "ceiling" is Hillary's floor on the graph provided, you just couldn't make a sillier argument using the graph to show Hillary's "ceiling."
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mitchtv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 03:49 PM
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3. yup that's one of today's talking points
good luck with that
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DiamondJay Donating Member (484 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 03:51 PM
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4. Americans really barely know her
they may THINK they know her, but they only know her as BC's wife, and the bullshit scandals thrown at them by the GOP media. When she comes into her own, i think she will go throw the glass roof, as likeable and trustworthy.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 04:01 PM
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5. it doesn't matter if they "know her" if they think that they know her
they stop listening
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 04:09 PM
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7. Hillary crashes grantcart's concrete celing
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jlake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 04:13 PM
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8. Ha! w00t!
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maddiejoan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 04:22 PM
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9. snort


How's that 44% ceiling for Obama feelin'?
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 04:25 PM
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10. HEY--UPDATE YOURSELF--you missed this:


Forum Name General Discussion: Primaries
Topic subject Gallup has Hillary at 52% Obama at 39%: 2/6/08
Topic URL http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4440770#4440770
4440770, Gallup has Hillary at 52% Obama at 39%: 2/6/08
Posted by Tennessee Gal on Wed Feb-06-08 03:19 PM

http://www.gallup.com/poll/104200/Gallup-Daily-Tracking-Election-2008.aspx
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 04:29 PM
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12. do not believe Gallup
Gallup is not a reputable pollster any more. They have been trying to help Hillary for months. Wait until you see their latest attempt to give new life to Hillary's campaign. They're claiming she's up to 52 and Obama is down to 39.

Yes, it's complete and utter horseshit, but when a firm is a whore, they have to put out when they're asked to.
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