Obama supporters are being disingenuous when claiming Hillary is broke

[Herman Munster]

First of all, you are forgetting about AFSCME, the teacher's unions, Emily's List, and all the dozens of other unions and organizations supporting her. She's getting tens of millions of dollars of support off the books.

But let's talk about her campaigns funds situation.

I don't think Hillary will have any fundraising problems after today. She awoke a sleeping giant. She needed to send a signal to her millions of supporters out there that some personal sacrifice was required. Whether it be $5, $25, $100, $500, whatever people can afford, there are no free rides.

She's putting her money where her mouth is and is sending a message that she's willing to put her money on the line for this campaign. It worked for Kerry in his primary battle. It'll work for Hillary.

You have to recognize that Hillary's supporters are mostly downscale democrats. Contributing to a campaign is usually far from their minds when their day to day concerns are so much more pressing but if she can get them to become engaged and contibute the smallest of amounts of money to her campaign, she'll be fine.

[donheld]

1. I support Obama but, I totally agree

There's a lot of fools talking out of their asses today.

[golddigger]

5. It's called wishful thinking...n/t

[Proud2BAmurkin]

2. k r

[maddiejoan]

3. Pulled $50 bucks

out of MY unemployed ass.

GoMama!

Now --Hillary supporters --if I'm unemployed (for the last 6 months) and can shell out $50 bucks what are YOU prepared to do?

[La Lioness Priyanka]

6. hey mine too!

:hi:

[adabfree]

12. Need a job? I'm hiring

Of course I'm an Obama girl....

[global1]

4. I Understand That Romney Will Fund HRC's Campaign To Get Back At......

McCain and Huckabee. It will be a Hillary/Mitt ticket. (joke)

[onenote]

7. sadly, DU is drowning in disingenuousness -- from both the obama and clinton camps

[Debi]

8. You do realize that her campaign tried to hide the fact that she had loaned herself

$5 million dollars? And certainly didn't mention the $10 million transfer from her senate coffers in late 2007 nor the $5 million in debt she carried over from 2007. Nope Terry Mc gleefully told Tim Russert that her campaign had raised $13.5 million and he was proud of that fact.

Why should a successful candidate HAVE to put their money where their mouth is? Why doesn't she have enough money in her campaign to get her message out? Why does she have to transfer funds and loan the campaign her personal funds?

And why can't her campaign be honest about it?

[Tarc]

10. That is patently false

Campaign finances are a matter of public record. There is no way she or any other political candidate could hide such a thing even if they wanted to.

let me introduce you to a friend of mine, http://opensecrets.org/pres08/index.asp?cycle=2008

[Debi]

16. Let me help you with what her campaign manager said about her January fundraising

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0208/Clintons_Ja...

<snip>

Russert: Last month. You guys raised 10 million.

McAuliffe: We won the fourth quarter and the third quarter. We actually raised more in '07 than Barack Obama did.

Russert: How's your money holding up?

McAuliffe: It's good. I mean, he -- you said 10. We actually about did about 13 1/2, which I was very proud of. We had more cash on hand at the end of '07. He had a great January. Hats off. I've been raising money for a long time. All the compliments in the world to the Obama campaign. They raised a lot of money on the internet. I heard over 25 million on the internet. Congratulations to them. No one should be worried about Hillary Clinton, though. We will always have our resources to get our message out.

<snip>

+++++

Where in there does McAuliffe say she loaned her campaign $5 million?

Oh, and I prefer www.fec.gov for campaign finance information. Here's the link to Clinton's most recent report:

http://query.nictusa.com/pres/2007/YE/C00431569.html

You'll be able to note the $5 million in debt as well as the $10 million transfer from her senate campaign funds on the report.

You're welcome.

[Tarc]

21. And that really does notihng to disprove my point

The O-Bots are going into hysterics because *gasp* she dipped into her own funds, as many other candidates to. And oh the horror! of a $10 million transfer of her own raided funds from one campaign to another.

The dim bulbs are sputtering tonight, it seems.

[Debi]

23. Well, I'll give you this

Wolfson just said that the $5 million loan was on top of the $13.5 million raised. So Terry Mc isn't so much a liar as I thought.

Also, I'm not and O-Bot and really it's unbecoming to call the supporters of another candiate anything other than that. You aren't raising the level of civility any by name-calling. I didn't call you names and provided you with links to back up my comments. Can't you have the same level of courtesy?

As a fan of campaign finance reform and public funding of elections seeing a millionaire dipping into their personal funds pisses me off. And Bill Clinton actually pre-emptively chastised Michael Bloomberg for even considering doing what his wife's campaign is now doing.

[scheming daemons]

9. Bunk.....

...all the reports last week were that Hillary's campaign had maxed out the $2300 from over 50% of her donors.... and that Obama had maxed out on only 11% of his donors.

She is not getting a bunch of small donations from "downscale Democrats". In fact the opposite... the average donation to her campaign is pretty high.

The average donation to Obama's campaign has been $109. He's pretty much got a bottomless ATM machine out there with his 250,000 donors.

You're spinning. Your candidate is in a cash crunch. That's why she's calling for weekly debates out of the blue. She needs to change the dynamic of this race, and she has no money to do it.... so debates are her only hope.


The dynamic of this race has been trending away from her for two weeks now.... and it takes media presence (which means greenbacks) to reverse that.

[adabfree]

14. Bingo..We have a Winner!

[BlackVelvet04]

11. Truthfully ......

the press made such a big deal out of all the money she had I just assumed she didn't need it. I know better now and I've donated.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

13. The Clintons' Have A Net Worth Of $200 Million

They can contribute a lot more to their campaign...They will not lose for lack of money...

[cd3dem]

15. Question: What did Kerry do with his left over millions from 2004?

did he give it to Obama?

[Deja Q]

17. Self-del, misread

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[Tennessee Gal]

18. HOOEY!

"She is not getting a bunch of small donations from "downscale Democrats".

I just donated to her for the first time and I will do it again.

[Bitwit1234]

19. That's cause they never miss a trick to flame her. They know they can.

[Adelante]

20. Hillary's supporters are mostly downscale democrats

Oh, please. Her problem is that her supporters are maxed out, not that they don't have the money to give her.

[Big Blue Marble]

22. You maybe whistling past the financial graveyard on this one.

This problem was predicted for Hillary in the fall. She depended on wealthy donors who maxed out early, while
Obama counted on small donors whom he could return to over and over again.

Yes, I am sure that her small donations will increase when her supporters hear the news.
But not enough to match Obama's. We, too, hearing that she is struggling will strengthen his campaign
with more donations. I have already given 150 this month and now will be giving more.

She just cannot keep up. Do you really think at a time of recession, when most of her "downscale democrat" supporters
are struggling with food and gas expenses, they will fork over what she needs.

The irony is that she depended on rich supporters. They came through for her. She thought she would have it
cinched by now. She doesn't. And she is hurting financially.