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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 07:48 PM
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Obama staffers are lobbyists - Walmart, BP, Lockheed Martin
Can all the progressives supporting Obama justify this?

http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/lobbyists-on-obamas-08-payroll-2007-12-20.html
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jlake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 07:50 PM
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1. They just deny it.
:crazy: :crazy: :crazy:
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REDFISHBLUEFISH Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 07:53 PM
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4. Obama will reward them handsomely for their work! Wal Mart in the White House!
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 05:07 AM
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36. So did Clinton and Edwards
From the exact same article.

"One member of Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton’s (D-Ill.) campaign staff was a registered lobbyist during the first half of 2007. Rachel Kelly represented the Great American Insurance Company from January to June. The contract paid less than $10,000.

A Clinton spokesman said Kelly stopped lobbying before joining the campaign.

Jonathan Mantz, Clinton’s finance director, was a registered lobbyist for the Podesta Group in 2005.

Two members of former Sen. John Edwards’s (D-N.C.) staff were registered as lobbyists for the first six months of this year. Adam Jentleson lobbied on behalf of the Center for American Progress, a liberal think tank headed by John Podesta, the White House chief of staff during the Clinton administration. Matthew Morrison registered as a lobbyist for the American Federation of Teachers in 2007.

Colleen Murray, a spokeswoman for Edwards, said both aides have ceased lobbying.
Employers often keep in touch with former colleagues who depart to work for presidential candidates. And more often than not, they are eager to see their protégés return."
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sidwill Donating Member (975 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 07:51 PM
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2. Who has taken more Lobbyists money?
Do you want to know?

Also, a question. Do you guys have a central processing center that directs you to post the same thing as everybody else? You know like the right wingers circulate those e-mails and stuff.

Just askin.
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jlake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 07:55 PM
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5. Tell the other Obamabots to stop claiming he doesn't do it then.
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REDFISHBLUEFISH Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 08:26 PM
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23. Obama is PAYING them, Showing great appreciation right?
LOL
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 07:52 PM
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3. Obama's staffers are all sorts of people.
Hillary's staffers are just all wrong.
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 08:02 PM
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9. Lobbyists as staffers is crossing the line
Its apparent where Obama's money is coming from and its not small donors. Hiring lobbyists is another nail in the coffin of his credibility.

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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 08:31 PM
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27. You think none of the Clintons' staffers or aides have gone on to become lobbyists?
Not even for Sierra Club?
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sunonmars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 07:55 PM
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6. am i surprised, he's lied about everything else, expose him Hillary, Now.
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REDFISHBLUEFISH Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 07:56 PM
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7. We have to insist the Obamedia covers it, Call in to talk radio and email TV stations!
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 07:58 PM
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8. Clinton is a Lockheed and Walmart candidate.
This seems quite a hypocritical charge.
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 08:04 PM
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10. Do you have some proof?
Is she employing their lobbyists on her campaign staff?
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 09:30 PM
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33. You can check things out.
Edited on Wed Feb-06-08 09:33 PM by mmonk
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 09:51 PM
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34. How about defense contractors while we're looking?
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REDFISHBLUEFISH Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 08:13 PM
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19. Obama's campaign is based entirely on lies, can you say DUBYA LITE?
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TornadoTN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 09:06 AM
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38. DUBYA-LITE? Hillary is the war mongerers choice on this side!
Just look at her donations from defense contractors and other associated industries. Hell, if Halliburton could get away with it, they would probably finance her entire campaign.
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Sensitivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 08:05 PM
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11. COULD WE JUST STOP THIS BS
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REDFISHBLUEFISH Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 08:05 PM
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13. Examining his deeds VS his words is a no-no?
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 08:07 PM
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15. I've NEVER heard of such a breach of ethics
in all my years of political activism.

Yes, I'm sure you would like this to go away, but it isn't. This is completely, totally unacceptable.

No wonder Obama has such a terrible health care reform plan. The last thing his lobbyists want is for Walmart to have to purchase REAL health insurance for its employees.

Totally unacceptable.
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REDFISHBLUEFISH Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 08:08 PM
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17. Edwards supporters should take note! Clinton is a better bet on health care!
Obama is a LIAR!
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Sensitivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 08:05 PM
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12. COULD WE JUST STOP THIS BS
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 08:06 PM
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14. Old article. Old news. Has been addressed. Hillary has same. You're wasting
your energy to try to make this a salient issue at this time. Read the freaking article and stop cherry picking.
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 08:07 PM
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16. You'll have to do better than that
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REDFISHBLUEFISH Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 08:10 PM
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18. Spread the word to others like yourself Ozark!
I am tired of Dubya tactics being employed by Obama. He is Hoodwinking the Country. The Obamedia is helping!
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 08:25 PM
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22. I don't have to do fucking anything, my friend. You want to make a federal case out of something
already covered, that's on you. Good luck.
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REDFISHBLUEFISH Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 08:21 PM
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20. It never got any press, we need to revisit it considering his theme!
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Rageneau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 09:22 PM
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32. Hillary does NOT have the same. Hillary will not do what Obama is doing for lobbyists.
A more careful reading (than you gave) of the article reveals that Hillary Clinton DOES NOT have lobbyists on her tean like Obama does his.

It says that the ONLY lobbyist on HRC's team quit her lobbying job -- which paid less than 10K -- last June, long before Iowa.

I wish people would READ things before they tell others what was said.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 09:03 AM
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37. Who has more corporate support than Hillary Clinton?
I believe she even has more than the republican candidates. So how does the amount of money a lobbyist makes affect the premise?
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 08:23 PM
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21. Did you read the whole article?
If you did, you would see that it goes on to say that Clinton and Edward's campaign also had/have lobbyists on staff.
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REDFISHBLUEFISH Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 08:27 PM
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24. Obama runs on being completely unattached to special interests, Yet he employs their minions?
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 08:29 PM
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26. Well, if you had actually READ the article
You would see that these lobbyists stopped lobbying when they went to work for ALL the campaigns. Reading is helpful.
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REDFISHBLUEFISH Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 08:37 PM
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28. Do you think they will return to it after? YES! There ya go, making my point again!
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 08:38 PM
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29. Do you choose to ignore that the article said Hillary has lobbyists on her staff?
Edited on Wed Feb-06-08 08:39 PM by blogslut
I'm serious. You really should read a thing before you use it as ammunition.
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REDFISHBLUEFISH Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 05:50 PM
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45. She did not entirely base her campaign on no lobbyoist theme did she? Obama did! Lying?
Yep!
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 09:09 AM
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39. Yes, and you're wrong
Having lobbyists on your staff during a campaign is one thing.

Having staffers who work in your Congressional office who leave to take jobs as lobbyists is something else.
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REDFISHBLUEFISH Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 05:44 PM
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44. No if they get you elected, you are somewhat beholden.
Lets be real here, Obama is no different. He just does it a different way.
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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 08:29 PM
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25. Did I read that Michele just hired a Lieberman staffer??
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 08:49 PM
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30. Veeeeerrrry in-teresting!
Did Obama lie about this? Just wondering. :shrug:

If the rolls were reversed the Obamites would be screaming Liar! Liar! all over this board. Would they not? No lying.
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REDFISHBLUEFISH Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 09:08 PM
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31. He infers he will chase special interests out of Wash, Yet they run his campaign?
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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 05:03 AM
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35. thus reinforcing the point that neither Clinton nor Obama will rescue the U.S. . .
from the clutches of the corporatocracy . . . they're both part of the problem, which effectively precludes their being part of the solution . . .
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REDFISHBLUEFISH Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 09:24 AM
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40. I tells the truth, Obama is running on lies!
Spoecial interests are behind his campaign!
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 09:42 AM
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41. And Clinton Doesn't? They ALL have to have professionals on staff. DUH!
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 09:56 AM
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42. Yea but Clinton doesn't brag about being free from lobbying...
pressure...

And Obama doesn't accept money from PAC but does accept bundled money...

For instance, people who work at Goldman Sachs kicked in $ 298,635...


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REDFISHBLUEFISH Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 02:47 PM
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43. Exactly , Obama's falsely based NO LOBBYIST campaign is going to nose dive!
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