God, this place was so much better when Edwards was tops here.

[jsamuel]

Things have gone so far down hill. The hate for the candidates is crazy. The talk of issues is completely gone. All we talk about is money, race, gender, donors, and any way to hate a candidate. I am sad for our site, but unfortunately, I think it goes all the way to the campaigns. Edwards campaign was never like that and neither were his supporters. I am proud to be an Edwards Democrat. He showed how to run a campaign you can be proud of.

[rinsd]

1. Issues....what are those?

I hear ya on that.

[roguevalley]

36. I love John. This place has become tedious with all the pettiness.

[DaLittle Kitty]

74. Yes If Nothing Else, (Forget Leading On All Issues), We Can Be Proud of John Edwards Maturity and

Integrity in running his campaign.


What we see now is IDIOCY approaching American Idol... Obama Girl????????????? Who did NOT even vote... What a bunch of Klowns! This is an American Presidential Election?

Hopefully John Edwards will save us from these two over financed, under-qualified and OVERHYPED candidates at the Convention...:)

[Fresh_Start]

2. we voted for Edwards yesterday

but he only got about 10% in our county so it was probably for naught

[jackson_dem]

5. You made your voice heard. There is no "wasted" vote in the primaries!

[DaLittle Kitty]

75. DITTOOO ABSOLUTELY... VOTE EDWARDS EVEN THOUGH The MSM will NOT even mention Edward's name!

:bounce:

[lame54]

30. We voted for him Tuesday and I feel better about it everyday

[pauldg0]

48. No it wasn't.............

Good things are paid foreword.

I believe something great is going to happen.

One great thing for sure.....all of you and for sure myself will never vote for an Obama or Clinton.

Go JOHN EDWARDS

You ran a clean and honest campaign, with not a negative thing said.

[drm604]

101. Speak for yourself.

Most of us will vote for whoever is the Democratic nominee.

[ChiciB1]

106. YOU May Be Surprised! Many Edwards Supporters Are Seriously

LOYAL and we are DEDICATED TOO! Say what you will... but he got a RAW deal, and I'm so ticked off with the FIGHTING, not only here, but from D.C. Elites WHO SHOULD KNOW BETTER!!

All of them have REALLY screwed up THIS time! Many of us, all of my family included are extremely UPSET and will stick with Edwards!!

[pauldg0]

110. Your my buddy..........

...Strange things can happen. I believe by the way the guy you responded to is a "plant" with a Edwards pic. Obama's camp I noticed has done this a whole bunch, especially in Iowa. I thought he was a better person than Clinton at that time, but now I think he is very backhanded.

Anyway, Edwards is silent. Hopefully quiet before the storm...let's pray for that and pray for this country.

[ChiciB1]

113. If I Were Edwards I WOULD Stay Silent... But No Matter WHAT He Does

he will be attacked. He's the ONLY candidate that kept trying to talk about THE ISSUES! Meanwhile, The Powers & D.C. Elites continued down their path and acted like school children.

Their infighting seems to have mattered MORE to them than "WE THE PEOPLE!" I have seen very little action from this Government for it's citizens. Too many people feuding in the Democratic Party and yet we call the Repukes on their stupidity! Dirty hands are dirty hands and I wonder if those who have them will ever get them clean again!

I also fear it's going to take a LOT more than PRAYERS to get this country back on track. All I see is how much we are failing to help our own, and I see very little help on the way. It seems to be all about EGO anymore, and who will get which endorsement and get "the play of the day!"

This is America, but it's really more like American IDOL!!

[pauldg0]

122. Absolutely correct!!

Everyone is for themselves..

[drm604]

115. So what are you saying?

That you're going to write in Edwards in the general election? What would that achieve?

[Name removed]

109. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[drm604]

114. Sorry, I am not a plant.

I'm not even sure what you're accusing me of but I've been here since Nov 2004. You've been here since last October.

[pauldg0]

123. O.K..........I .assume

you have given up on John, that's all.

Stay tuned though..............I think your going see some pretty nifty surprises.

[drm604]

124. I said that I would vote in the general election for whoever the nominee is.

I don't understand how that makes me some kind of traitor or plant. Voting any other way wouldn't make sense. Surely you're not suggesting that we write in Edwards name in the general election? That would achieve nothing other than giving the Democratic nominee (presumably Hillary or Obama) one less vote. Whatever I might think of them (and I don't have a strong hatred of either) they're far better than any Republican nominee would be.

Obviously if, by some miracle, Edwards were the nominee then I would vote for him. But if I'm assuming miracles than I'm wishing for Gore.

[pauldg0]

131. Look......

if it came down to the final delegate count in the Democratic national convention and between now and then Obama and Hillary self-destruct, I will be pulling for the delegates to change their mind and cast their vote for John Edwards.

I know it's a long shot, but this could happen. Those two do nothing but bicker...they do not say one thing that is substantive as John Edwards did. You know this, I'm sure. Those two are not representing the Democratic party at all in my opinion....they represents themselves and their own ego's.

If Obama and Hillary are not holding a majority of the delegates, they can recount and are allowed to cast their vote in another direction.

To turn my vote to them just to say I'm supporting the Democratic party is wrong. Why do I say wrong? Well, it's like this. This Democratic party is not the real deal. I'm sixty years old and every facet of what I have seen lately is Republican ideals. I will not support them.

[SammyWinstonJack]

129. And will have an extremely hard time doing so, if at all. Still voting for Edwards in the primary.

I don't like being manipulated by the corprat media. I have had enough of it! :argh:

[thunder rising]

3. Maybe for you!

[cbayer]

4. Yeah, now there are only two groups slinging crap at each other.

[More Than A Feeling]

6. Agreed.

There are only so many times you can discuss mandates or IWR before it degenerates.

[Sarah Ibarruri]

7. There was lots of bickering when Edwards was here too, only few bickered about Edwards.....

LOVE Edwards.

[bagimin]

68. We liked John alot

but he was never really a factor after Iowa.

[Divine Discontent]

83. he was scantly mentioned at ALL in the press after beating Hillary there

and they claimed, "oh he had to win Iowa to matter", as if that makes ANY sense. No, it doesn't btw.

[smokey nj]

8. I agree.

[DavidDvorkin]

9. There was a lot of hatred directed against Edwards, though

There were some damned vile posts.

[cbayer]

13. There was a lot of hatred directed towards anyone not in his camp, too.

[DavidDvorkin]

14. Honestly, I don't remember seeing that

Perhaps I was just unaware of it. I was often struck, though, by the vitriol aimed at Edwards.

[cbayer]

15. honestly, maybe you weren't a victim of it

[cali]

18. no kidding. The vitriol of quite a few of the Edwardians

matched anything seen by Clinton or Obama supporters.

[foxer]

76. Don't recall an "unprovoked attack", however when you attack

Your going down like a biker babe at Sturgis

[kelligesq]

119. No one seems to agree with that assessment - as a matter of fact not on entire DU - many

Du'ers wont even come over here.

They are hiding from the vitriol of the obamanits and hillary haters

[sandnsea]

33. There still is

Some people can't let go of animosity towards another candidate that they built up trying to support Edwards.

[stickernation]

61. Because it's justified.

No Clinton or Obama person has articulated any reason to unravel our well-researched "animosity".

Let's see Obama supporters defend Zbigniew Brzenzski - which simply can't be done - and I'll consider their point of view. Until then, their candidate is relying on one of the architects of the neo-con revolution - ZB basically WROTE THE WHITE PAPER ON THE NEED FOR THE US TO INVADE EVERYONE.

This sure does have me animositous. Would you like to make me feel better? Why don't you try!

As for Clinton, can I seriously shake my image of her smiling while accepting Sam Walton's kind words in front of the Walmart annual stockholders' meeting? No. The Clintons are a multinational corporation themselves. However she is at least beholden to her OWN sinister advisers, however, while I have no idea how "they" scared up ZB to hold Obama's hand. This man - ZB - should be prosecuted by the World Court, and Obama makes him his foreign policy adviser. Who are we going to bomb next ZB? I can't believe it, it is astounding. ZB is the Democrats' answer to Henry Kissenger. I HATE ZB A LOT, and YOU SHOULD TOO. I am having deep trouble respecting a candidate that is involved with this terrorist mastermind as if he were a person to respect. It's as if he were being advised by Kissenger himself.

[Truth2Tell]

82. Obama and Hillary won't bring Kissinger in until after they're elected,

like Bill did.

[Life Long Dem]

10. But it is the candidates that are not sticking to the issues.

After awhile of not hearing about the issues, the only thing left is the mudslinging. John Edwards was on top of the issues and and he talked about.

[NJSecularist]

11. I am really tired of all the Edwards grandstanding.

We get it... your candidate was good! We get it. No need to shove it down our throats.

[B Calm]

22. Glad to see you agree that Edwards was good! Damn shame the

one with the most corporate money has to win, ehh?

[Catchawave]

12. Much easier to hang out in the candidate's forums....

Daily Kos is worse than here. The venom is diary length :silly:

[Donnachaidh]

16. ain't THAt the thruth

The shrillness of some, especially when their obvious obsession is pointed out, is quite frankly frightening.

That being said, we voted for Edwards on Tuesday, and will write him in at the GE.


HE stood for the ISSUES, not for some glamour photoshoot and the anointing by a talk show host. And HE talked to the people, and didn't take money from Rabid RW media moguls, and others who want to keep the money rolling for themselves.

What's left is two cardboard cutouts, who have taken a few of his issues to TALK about. But both will probably find real good reasons to forget once they've achieved the WH.

[SammyWinstonJack]

20. ...

:thumbsup: and :cry:

[cali]

21. more myth.

Many, many Edwards supporters were just vile. And that they pat themselves on the back like you are, at the same time that they're slinging shit, is a sign of cognitive dissonance of the first order. I wish I could list the names of Edwardians who were and are are among the most vitriolic of posters here at DU. Let me just note that at least one of them has posted in this thread.

I didn't buy JE in 2004 or 2008. I'll leave it at that.

[chimpymustgo]

23. Well, now. Vile would certainly know vile. But if there was any of that from Edwards

supporters, it was few and far between. It was mostly nasty stuff DIRECTED at Edwards and Edwards supporters. You know what I'm talking about, right?

[cali]

24. baloney.

there was just as much crap thrown out from Edwards supporters as from supporters of others. Empty suit corporocrat DLC repuke lite, etc, etc. And I posted NONE of that, chimpy. I posted all of 9 threads about Edwards over a 6 month period. I would have posted more, but I couldn't take the vile crap thrown out over even the most mild criticism of JE.

All myth and welcome to my ignore list, chimp.

[chimpymustgo]

26. And you would know BALONEY!!! I'd have put you ignore weeks ago, but I love

seeing you get your ass kicked on the boards. Tons of fun!

[beezlebum]

47. the problem is

clinton and obama supporters don't seem to understand that there is a difference between petty mudslinging and telling the truth to people who have blinders on- and what i mean by that is this: i can not tell you how many times i have seen on DU and elsewhere hillary clinton's supporters saying they support her because obama is "corporate." :wtf: and then when i point out that, yes, that may be so, but hillary is more corporate than obama (based on corporate/lobby donations, for example).

'corporocrat DLC' is accurate. not accusation, not opining or criticism- pointing to the facts. DLC and corporate hack does not a progressive make. obama and clinton have both taken the largest proportion of corporate money, and, um, yeah, Hillary is DLC. (edit to correct that)

all edwards supporters have done here is ask why on earth someone who calls themselves "progressive" would elect non-progressives who are, yes,more closely akin to republicans they can easily be considered "republican-lites" as they are beholden to corporate interests and the war machine (much like freepers like to call their republican "centrists" dem-lites)...

that said, i am hoping obama gets the nod before clinton, i will vote for him if i vote, but edwards would have been the wiser choice, kucinich even better.

truthfully, i don't feel that electing a democrat is going to make a difference anymore, or at least not enough of one. we are facing global crises that we have never seen in the near future (with regards to climate change). the real issue now is not necessarily "who" gets elected but how to change public attitude. enough with political posturing and propaganda and pandering- it is time for the rest of the public to get real. human rights aren't just a liberal belief, though we are laughed at as "hippies" for touting them, and neither should global warming be.

i'm not so concerned about the next president as i am their adoring public.

[LiberalHeart]

79. Excellent post.

[Divine Discontent]

85. that's not a fair summation

I really noticed several Obama backers being more than just a bit troublesome.

As a backer of Obama's candidacy now, I know for one thing - the percentage of Obama supporters being repulsive just dropped.

[Donnachaidh]

27. nice name-calling --

Too bad so many Obama supporters are far more interested in getting their pet project into the WH than actually facing the issues.

What's vile is the FACT that the cult of personality is more important to some than their neighbors. And when it's pointed out they act like children.

[ellisonz]

41. The true spirit of this thread:

"What's vile is the FACT that the cult of personality is more important to some than their neighbors."

[tkmorris]

67. That's just not true

I'm sorry, it just isn't. I suppose every candidate had a few supporters who were, shall we say, overly zealous, but the rest of us really can see a difference between the tone of Edwards supporters and the feces flinging contest currently underway.

I know you dislike Edwards but objectivity must be maintained.

[ChiciB1]

108. Yes It's Too Bad... Cardboard Cut Outs Just Can't Cut It With Me...

What has happened is monumental, and not only will the Democratic Party pay a huge price, but the U.S. of ASS will too.

Many will not support the other two! What they AND their supporters have been doing is surreal!

[cali]

17. Myth wins over reality every time

The myth that Edwards supporters were so pure is bullshit. And the myth that Edwards always took the high ground is too. And there are plenty of former and current Edwards supporters stirring shit right here and right now.

[Dawgs]

19. Couldn't have said it better myself.

The whole 'Edwards and his supporters are holier than though' bullshit is really beyond belief.

[navarth]

42. perhaps you're right, Cali

maybe the Edwards supporters aren't all pure like some might claim to be.

but I've been watching your posts for a while and I can't understand why you're so consistenly rude.

you catch more flies with honey.

[waiting for hope]

112. Don't bother - attacking Edwards and his

supporters is an obsession.

[stillrockin]

25. Come back, John. Take a stand. Please.

[SammyWinstonJack]

28. ...

:thumbsup: He did take a stand and got knocked out for doing so.

[DaLittle Kitty]

77. After the "Historic Candidates" Have Their Day +Everyone Figures Out That Neither offer A Winning

GE Campaign!

[SammyWinstonJack]

99. ...

:thumbsup:

[femrap]

29. K and R...Big Time

It's pathetic, isn't it? It's just one big ugly circus...or maybe a train wreck of a circus. The hate and willful ignorance is glaringly obvious.

I am so ashamed of what my country has become...the sheep are so easily manipulated.

I still have doubts that we will have an election. Martial law as a result of something the neocons prepare and then no election.

Is there any place in the world that is welcoming dejected and disgusted American citizens? It would be a group of people who have excellent critical thinking skills!

[sandnsea]

31. And YOU have been leading the pack of haters

If there weren't 100 lies a day coming out of Hillary's campaign, maybe we'd have time to talk about issues. And Edwards' supporters have contributed just as much as anybody else.

[H2O Man]

32. 2004 was great.

[smiley_glad_hands]

34. K & R eom

[OzarkDem]

35. Yes, its bad; no discussion of issues

Just talking points and insults. :eyes:

[lumberjack_jeff]

37. Even the discussion of the issues (meager though it is) has become moronic.

Universal health care is a good idea. Just make it so I can opt out. :banghead:

[cottonseed]

38. Ever seen Sixth Sense?

nt

[Festivito]

39. Just ignore any post in Primaries or with a named candidate.

There is actually news to read. Good luck.

[rucognizant]

40. And now Romney has suspended........

It's been ALL ROMNEY ALL DAY on CNN! He talked for a full hour at noon!
John only got 2 or 3 short spots:

puke:

[blayne]

43. I actually thought it was getting better around here with just the two left.

But you are right about the talk of issues being gone. Now all we here about is "hope."

[avrdream]

44. I'm with you on that.

Discussions USED to be reasonable.

[Armstead]

45. Yes I sure as hell miss the ideas

[pauldg0]

46. Amen to you brother..............

John Edwards was human, a breath of fresh air. I wish we could hear from though.

I hope he has something great up his sleeve.

Go John. What ever you do will be to the up n up without deceit for any person, place or thing.

[judaspriestess]

49. I miss John Edwards too

hope all is well for him and his family

[hay rick]

50. Welcome to America

I voted for Edwards after he dropped out. I think most Edwards supporters will enthusiastically support Hillary or Obama against McCain or any other Republican candidate. The enthusiasm stems not from a high regard for either remaining candidate but from contempt for the opposition. These are our enemies.

The daily ration of petty personal attacks and vapid stories divining "character" is the MSM's preferred substitute for substantive reporting. This will not change- at least not in time for this election.

For those who detest the slime associated with our political campaigns (hopefully, all who frequent DU on a regular basis) I suggest that devotion to issues to the exclusion of attacks on our opponents is an exercise in "personal virtue" that is a giant step in the direction of defeat.

[RiverStone]

51. We will unify after the convention this summer....

:hi:

[Phred42]

52. "The resignation that living brings" is a bitch isnt' it.

Let's not count Edwards out of the picture just yet

[Andrea]

118. That's right, Phred

Don't count him out.

(And I love Jackson Browne, too.)

[ChiciB1]

128. Oh Andrea... Jackson Browne Is My Favorite!! I'm With Edwards Too.

but YOU know that! Catching more names right now!

:hi: :bounce: :bounce: :toast:

[txaslftist]

53. Me, too.

I hope he's still on the ballot come primary time in Texas.

[asdjrocky]

54. Here, here. K&R

[pauldp]

55. You can thank the M$M for marginalizing everyone who they did not want

in the race.
More candidates should be part of the process at this point - it's still the fucking primaries for god's sake.

Don't tell me I have to settle for Sunny Delight when I can still get fresh sqeezed orange juice.

[iris5426]

56. Yes definitely! nt

[TheDeathadder]

57. I do miss the Edwards talk

...bring it back.

[D23MIURG23]

58. It was better still...

before the advent of this all-consuming primary season.

This place used to be about unity and collective concern over issues facing the country. Disagreements were still prevalent back then, but we could legitimately rename this place "candidate crossfire underground" right now. And most of the points raised aren't even substantial.

I hear you about Edwards though. He had depth and so did a lot of his supporters.

[chimpymustgo]

59. Edwards is missed. nt

nt

[Catchawave]

125. Very much....n/t

[BeyondGeography]

60. And you've become just another Hillbot

:boring:

[jsamuel]

64. I do NOT support Clinton. I just do NOT support Obama more.

The degree of spin I am seeing posted has been ridiculous. I would prefer a Clinton win to an Obama win, but I think there has been a lot of spin that doesn't make sense and I can't stand that. And your name calling isn't helping anything.

[Gloria]

62. John had THE issue that was worth fighting for, but so few really

realized it....

Corporate power taking over the government. THE core issue, from which most other crap follows....

[Marie26]

63. I miss Edwards.

:(

[pauldg0]

107. Me too!!!

I used to follow positive comments and Edwards bet em all!!! I just don't get it. I do know this, Obama went for all the empty heads in Iowa. You have to give Obama credit for doing that, I guess, but God Obama just doesn't have substance to that charismatic speech of his...absolutely NOTHING.

If he is nominated, I will consider him a head of swiss cheese and hope we can fill those holes so he can be a full head of cheese...wow where did I get that one from??

[George II]

65. It was a hell of a lot better when people here were fighting with Republicans....

instead of with each other.

[pnwmom]

66. I agree that the Edwards' supporters were positive spokespeople

for their candidate, not people who went around name-calling and lying about the others. So were the Biden supporters, and most of the others, for that matter.

All I can say is, I hope you can separate the candidates from the worst of their supporters.

[nradisic]

69. Amen!

What happened to civility? Aren't we all going to vote Democratic anyway?

[Radical Activist]

70. Personally, I'm happy to see the end

of the dishonest smear campaign against Obama painting him as a conservative. The spin and tortured logic was ridiculous. There are a still people who actually believed it still posting that stuff, but most if it died down since it was Joe Trippi's thing.

[waiting for hope]

111. Proof that was Trippi?

Trippi defended Barack against Mark Penn.

[Timbuk3]

71. Let's make a deal

Whichever candidate promises to make Edwards the AG gets our vote.

Even if I can't see a dime's worth of difference between the two, I could vote for Edwards as AG.

[ileus]

72. Edwards should file a suit aginst those that didn't vote for him.

[SammyWinstonJack]

130. ...

:eyes:

[Fox Mulder]

73. You know what everyone here needs to focus on?

Defeating John McCain in November.

Edit to add that I voted for John Edwards in the Minnesota caucus on Tuesday.

[and-justice-for-all]

78. Edwards is still tops as for as I am concerned...

He will always be my No.1 candidate.

I guess I miss all the hate exchange between the 2 tribes, I do not go looking for it either. It also is not very productive or make us look any better then the repig klan when we sling shit at each other. WE NEED A DEM on the Hill! No matter who it is. Be it HRC or BO, we can not stand for another 4 years of Shrub's bullshit policies and we just have to hope that most of them are removed when the Dem takes the hill.

"bomb, bomb, bomb...bomb, bomb Iran" McCain is lil' shrub and a GOP lap dog.

[Papagoose]

80. Was it this bad in 2004?

I am really bothered by the animosity shown by all sides in this primary cycle. In my personal experience, the worst has come from Obama supporters, followed closely by Clinton supporters. I have not personally witnessed any vicious attacks from Edwards supporters, but I'm sure there's been some. The atmosphere of hatred has really been a turn-off to me. I've enjoyed visiting and participating in several boards for a few years, but I'm seriously thinking of giving it up. Since November 2000 I've been looking forward to this election...the negativity and anger being spewed by the extremists within my own party is really ruining it for me.

I am an Edwards supporter and I voted for him in GA - though clearly, he's not going to be the nominee. It would seem to me that Clinton and Obama supporters should want to show me why I should back their candidate; but instead a few bad apples in each camp are making my decision impossible.

[Divine Discontent]

84. not really... eom

[tjwash]

87. Not even close nt

[Andrea]

120. No where near this bad, but then

it was a different group of candidates. Er, uh, except for one...

Gee, what could that mean?

[Divine Discontent]

81. God knows this.

I however believe many DUers are getting more measured in their comments. Of course, that could be from the amount of people we keep putting on ignore! haha

[Seabiscuit]

86. Only 13 posts from "Ignored" is damned good out of 82 replies.

Usually my threads attract about 40%-50% of the posts from "Ignored".

[venable]

88. The Party and the primaries were better with Edwards.

to say nothing of the future of the country.

[DemCam]

89. Only for those who supported Edwards.

[UpInArms]

90. I miss John

[poppysgal]

132. right on

:hi:

[inna]

91. no kidding. we're being manipulated by the MSM :::

i think we're simply being manipulated by the MSM.

clearly, "they" want to keep the Democratic race as close as possible and the party divided

(and so far they are succeeding... god, how foolish can we be?)


as for the *isssues*? of COURSE they don't want us to think/talk about real issues.

(after all, Clinton's and Obama's platforms/positions are nearly identical.

i'm not thrilled with them, but they are all we got unfortunately.

it doesn't really matter which one of them wins - what's really important is that another Republican won't

be elected in 2008. just remember that and don't buy into all this media circus.)

[RestoreGore]

92. Absolutely agree

and he set the tone and the agenda.

[Teaser]

93. when I was a kid we would walk 70 miles to school in the snow

and we liked it. We LOVED it!

[ChiciB1]

94. I Completely Agree... I'm Sure You Know About The NEW Blog Site

for "Edwardians!" It will be so much nicer! I haven't checked in here all that much in the past couple of days, but it sure LOOKS NASTY & a bit OUT OF CONTROL!!

Always, EDWARDS... ALWAYS!

[onehandle]

95. Considering this post has been voted to the front page...

...I'd say he's still tops.

DU will end up with their third or fourth choice.

[IsItJustMe]

96. Edwards had class. No doubt about it.

[tammywammy]

97. Edwards has a GIGANTIC House!!!

There does that make you feel better? Because I remember a lot of threads about his house, hair cut, hedge fund, etc going on while Edwards was in the lead.

It's gotten worse, yeah, but it wasn't all peaches and cream back then either.

[kelligesq]

117. so what? he got it the hard way. HE EARNED IIT WITH HARD WORK

[tammywammy]

126. So apparently you can't read a whole post

Thanks for playing.

[MelissaB]

98. Amen!

[eowyn_of_rohan]

100. I do agree...

It is now all Osama--oops! Obama and Hillary all the time-- the hysteria and hostility is too much. Notice the Edwards people are not part of the hysteria. He could have been a unifying candidate.

[kelligesq]

102. as I recall didnt you say you werent going to vote for him?

[waiting for hope]

103. jsamuel - I'll kick ya.

Rec'd you earlier. Case in point, may I present some fine journals?

http://journals.democraticunderground.com/JohnLocke

http://journals.democraticunderground.com/asdjrocky

http://journals.democraticunderground.com/Nutmegger

http://journals.democraticunderground.com/Catchawave

http://journals.democraticunderground.com/benny05

http://journals.democraticunderground.com/waiting%20for%20hope

I wish more of the Edwards supporter kept journals (hint hint jsamuel...) but it was about substance for the most part and it got people excited about ISSUES.

I liked it better too! :cry:

[Whisp]

104. it was better when we had one common enemy, Bush...

but now that the dems have to look like they are better (re: Pelosi and Reid who lick bush ass like a cone on a hot summer day and Hillary that likes war and nonspeak as much as any repug) there is much confusion

[LittleClarkie]

105. Mad props for the Edwards supporters

When they say something is bullshit with either Obama's or Hillary's camps, there's a good chance it's bullshit.

[philly_bob]

116. I've been thinking about the unpleasantness here.

Perhaps it's a different style of online interaction. I've been visiting some other online communities (like 4chan.org's /n/ news and /b/ random groups, which appeal more to a collegiate crowd, I think) and the style is brutal, combative, and disrespectful. Homophobic, racist, sexist. A circle of hell. Think Hieronymus Bosch. Except no-one seems to get hurt. It's amusing, sometimes informative, addictive -- like, what will happen NEXT?.

Maybe new visitors to DU have grown up with this style of online interaction.

Massive growth in Democratic voters => DU new registrants. I'm suggesting that the present tone is connected to new registrants at DU, and the idea is to remain calm and point out rudeness.

I'd like to go back to a more supportive, polite style, but I don't know how to do it. All I can think of is that when someone is Insulting, or Sarcastic, or Dismissive, or Disrespectful, point that out in your reply.

[kelligesq]

121. Yes. Just Imagine

What the world is going to be like as they get our of college and apply
that manner to the real world, imagine society being filled with what has
gone on at DU.

Unpleasant isn't it.

[Ellinorianne]

127. Amen to that

I'm tired of trashing Democrats and Edwards was so good about sticking to the issues, now that his voice is out, it's taken a whole new downturn and I'm rather turned off altogether.

I want to pick another candidate, so that I can feel involved and get behind someone, but I will always be an Edwards supporter. I wish to inject some sense and class into one of these two remaining candidates campaigns, but I can't do that. That would make me a pompous ass for one thing, but it's so big for both that it's hard to make any dent in the rhetoric.