Can Obama win Pennsylvania in a general election?

[Proud2BAmurkin]

There's eastern Pennsylvania, always good for Democrats.

Then.......there's western Pennsylvania.

George HW Bush won it. Clinton and Gore won it. Kerry won by two points.

We need it.

[rug]

1. Of course he can if he lays off the bullshit platitudes.

[557188]

2. No and he won't win Michigan either

He won't win Michigan after the Republicans attack him for not wanting their voices to be heard in the primaries. You thought shiftboat was bad? Yikes! What a political blunder.

But hey South Carolina went for him in the primary!

[MonkeyFunk]

3. congratulations

this is your 30th active thread.

Don't you ever get embarrassed?

[Proud2BAmurkin]

5. Thoughts on PA in the general election? We need it.

[MonkeyFunk]

6. I'm ashamed you're supporting my candidate

[Proud2BAmurkin]

7. So?

[MonkeyFunk]

11. I have this crazy, naive optimism

that some people can change their behavior when it's repeatedly pointed out what assholes they're being.

[Proud2BAmurkin]

14. depends on who's pointing it out

[MonkeyFunk]

15. Dozens of people have pointed it out to you...

perhaps hundreds. Are you just waiting for the right person?

[Proud2BAmurkin]

16. I've seen varied opinions publicly and privately

means nothing

[MonkeyFunk]

33. Yes

it's quite obvious you don't give a shit that almost everybody here hates what you're doing.

LOOK AT ME!!! I STARTED A THREAD!!!!

[SaveOurDemocracy]

21. Nice try MonkeyFunk ...

:pals:

Some people just live for the spotlight ... does the phrase 'attention-whore' remind you of anyone? We have more than a few that have taken up residence here.


If P2BA was serious about supporting Senator Clinton, he'd have toned it down long ago.

[loveangelc]

20. glad Hillary supporters are as fed up as everyone else with this person...

[MonkeyFunk]

29. most of us were fed up long ago

He's not doing a damned thing to help Clinton. If I wanted to HURT a candidate, I would behave the way this poster does.

[alteredstate]

32. He can't help it.

He's a Murkin.

[EffieBlack]

37. No need to be ashamed - every campaign has one

Just like we all have a brother or cousin that completely embarrasses us.

At least in this case, he's not actually related to you and you don't have to keep bailing him out of jail.

[thunder rising]

4. Oh Poop, when the choice is between him and an almost dead man?

[thevoiceofreason]

8. Absolutely

When the R's have governed while the home prices tumbled, etc., the R's are srewed. get oout of the world of DU for a second, you creaton. The D nominee will win. I will support eithe. Few people have (a) an axe to grind, (b) a myopic campaign view, or (c) relationship issues like you do.

[Proud2BAmurkin]

9. I just watched two terms of Bush. Don't know if I buy into "pragmatic" America

[Avalux]

10. Well, both my parents are in central PA, near Penn State.

I grew up there. They will both vote Obama in the primary. They voted Bush twice (despite my lectures) and now realize they were wrong. They want someone who will make a difference.

That part of PA slants somewhat libertarian (not conservative Republican) and Obama has a very good chance in central/western PA.

[Proud2BAmurkin]

12. I'm from there too and believe it slants somewhate "West Virginian"

[Avalux]

17. So what does that mean? We can debate this if you want. n/t

[Proud2BAmurkin]

18. Western PA has nothing in common with Oprah and the wealthier segments that support Obama

[Avalux]

19. NO. Explan your West Virginia comment.

Because where I grew up is nothing like West Virginia.

[Proud2BAmurkin]

25. conservative democrat or "reagan democrat," blue collar

[Avalux]

27. Then I'd have to say those Reagan Democrats are coming home to Obama.

At least that's what I'm getting from my folks. They don't like Bill Clinton and they won't vote for Hillary.

[JVS]

40. The blue-collar people of W PA hated and still resent reagan. He oversaw our economic holocaust

[sampsonblk]

43. Centre County?

Bush is toast in Centre County, but I don't know if that means the area will go Dem. Even some of the Dems there are conservative.

[tammywammy]

13. Yes he can

[smalll]

22. No way. That's hard-core beer country, not wine country. /nt

[Hawaii Hiker]

23. Absolutely....Philadelphia & Allegheny County (Pittsburgh) are solid blue

areas, especially Philly....Walter Mondale won in Philadelphia in 1984, though he lost the state, Philly usually goes about 75-80% for the Democrat..

Here's county by county from PA. in 2004...Also, PA hasn't gone red since 1988...

http://www.electionreturns.state.pa.us/ElectionsInformation.aspx?FunctionID=15&ElectionID=11&OfficeID=1

[Proud2BAmurkin]

26. Kerry only won by 2, Philly goes Democrat but the west is a toss up

[SmellsLikeDeanSpirit]

24. Hell yes.

[bigwillq]

28. Yes Penn. is going our way again (nt)

[Proud2BAmurkin]

30. I'm not so sure. Kerry barely won.

[bigwillq]

34. Positive thoughts.

That's what we need.

[RockyTorres]

31. Definetly - Hillary supporter here

[riskpeace]

35. He can win Philly

It's Pennsyltucky where he'll have the problems.

[terrya]

36. Yes, of course he can. What a silly question.

[cali]

38. I don't think you can reasonable expect anything but silly

and outrageous from merky.

[JVS]

39. Eastern PA is the half that swings Republican

Philadelphia itself is reliably democratic, but those huge philly suburbs swing back and forth.

[mrgorth]

41. Absolutely!

Absolutely!

[thesubstanceofdreams]

42. The answer you are looking for is: YES n/t