NEW MEME - Being for Obama means you have joined a CULT. I Call bullshit!

[FrenchieCat]

Guess that means that self respecting folks should support a women running mostly on her husband's record while talking about less than a year working for the Children's Fund as thought she did it for 10 years of the 35 she continues to touts, and who voted for war and has yet to call it a mistake; who voted for some stupid Iran Resolution at the worst time; accepts more pac and lobbyist money than any other candidate, loves to saber rattle at APAIC, and who's hubby is knee deep in some shady status quo type of "qui pro quo"--

That's considered rational?

yeah...ok :eyes:

[Dogmudgeon]

1. And you certainly are the one to do it

Just sayin'.

--p!

[FrenchieCat]

2. You see those threads....right?

Are is your cult of Personality favoring Hillary Clinton blinding you?

Want me to provide you with the links?

[onehandle]

4. I don't favor Hillary Clinton.

And I like Obama.

But I know a cult of personality when I see it.

[FrenchieCat]

7. And what was the Edwards love about?

What did you call that, if I may ask?

[onehandle]

8. Careful.

Edwards was the winner at DU for a long, long time.

This would be the first accusation of cult I've witnessed about him.

[neutron]

29. You don't have a CLUE who Obama is

You don't know his right wing policies, and how he took
Right Wing Corporate money to work against the interests
of his district.

You don't know that experts sneer at his economic and
health plan.

All you know is puff and gas.

[onehandle]

37. I said I like him. I didn't say I like his platform.

I liked Ronald Reagan too.

[FrenchieCat]

31. So what's the difference?

What do you see in the behavior of Obama supporters that is any different from that of Edwards supporters. Just asking.

I don't see you in those threads posted on these boards denouncing those calling the OBama supporters Cultist.

[onehandle]

45. Uh... I don't know how to answer that.

I pretty much have said that the Obama supporters at DU are pretty cult like.

At DU, I must stress.

[FrenchieCat]

55. How's that?

Please elaborate.

What behavior do you see that makes you say that?

[onehandle]

66. I'll have Xenu research some links.

You wait right here...

[FrenchieCat]

69. I'll be right here!

:hi:

[angie_love]

104. While Edwards was chasing down ambulances, Obama was a community organizer

Just saying.

[lastliberalintexas]

108. Try supporting your candidate without attacking what is

probably the most Dem friendly profession out there, please.

[Straight Shooter]

112. Jim Jones was a community organizer, too.

"Jones began his group in San Francisco and was once a respected community leader. He started programs to help the elderly and poor. His circle of friends once included leading politicians ...

Once the Rev. Jim Jones was a popular figure and something of a religious celebrity in San Francisco. He participated in fashionable charity events and perhaps most importantly could turn out the vote or do whatever else was necessary through the well-oiled machine composed largely of his church members.

Jones was not some self-proclaimed "prophet" or fringe religious leader. He was an ordained minister of the Disciples of Christ, a respected mainline denomination. At one point his congregation numbered 8,000. It was composed largely of poor African Americans.

Jones cast himself as a politically progressive and was embraced by liberal politicians such as U.S. Representatives Phillip and John Burton, Assemblyman Willie Brown and Mayor George Moscone."

The Rise and Fall of Jim Jones

http://www.rickross.com/reference/jonestown/jonestown4.html

[in_cog_ni_to]

127. You know, you're right! I had forgotten about that! Here's a youtbe of the cult suicides for those

too young to know about it. The similarity of the Jones Cult and the Obama Cult is UNCANNY.:scared: It all began from his community organizing and moved on from there. We all know how it ended.:( It was awful.

"Jones cast himself as a politically progressive and was embraced by liberal politicians" HOLY MOLY.

Here's the youtube from Guyana:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qemq9mckToY

[FrenchieCat]

128. You hit paydirt....or just dirt!

[Name removed]

131. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[FrenchieCat]

136. Yeah....I'm stupid and you're smart.....

Go ahead and follow your war supporter. Get your war on.

If you're waiting for Veep Clark, make sure to let Evan Bayh know.

[in_cog_ni_to]

137. Just so the veep isn't Jim Obama Jones. Clark will be in her administration.

We real Clark supporters will be able to relish that day...you won't.

Jim Obama Jones has voted consistently to fun that war and his anti-war rhetoric is bullshit. Had he been in the Senate at the time, he would have voted for the IWR too.

[BlackVelvet04]

81. Basically the Edwards supporters believe in the cause and not

the personality, they like Edwards but he isn't the cause.

Obama supporters believe in the personality and persuasive powers of Obama and can't even define the cause apart from nebulous hope and change.

[FrenchieCat]

86. I call bullshit!

that's simply your interpretation.

There is no fucking difference.

John Edwards was "fighting" for you.

Obama says this is our chance to change politics of hate as usual.

Why is John Edwards worthy of adulation without it being called anything other than a Cult, and Obama supporters are called names?

What in the fuck is that about?

I call bullshit!

[BlackVelvet04]

99. You're very quick to call bullshit....

probably because you're so familiar with it being so steeped in it.

Edwards supporters understood the cause and put it first. You and the other Obama supporters talk about changing the politics of hate and you act just like everybody else here. Obama acts like every other candidate doing what is to his political benefit.

Obama hasn't change politics at all, he just talks good. He's been every bit if not more negative towards the other candidates than any of them. He's distorted other candidate's positions. He's done every political thing that everyone else has. That's not change.

[tishaLA]

139. It's because we believe in the "we"

and followers of Sen Clinton believe in the "she." And you know, relying upon someone other than yourself to get stuff done is self-empowering while relying upon yourself is cultish. Or something.

I also call bullshit.

[IndianaJones]

3. Testify!! nt.

[rodeodance]

30. !COME-TO-OBAMA!

[Kittycat]

5. I have to give you a K&R for sticking your head out there on this one.

I completely agree. I'm so sick of this cult BS. It's not 92 anymore, and it never will be again!

[Maddy McCall]

6. You made fun of Dean supporters in 2004 for being in a "cult"

You did it here, and at other places.

Why would you feel so offended by people doing exactly what you did to others?

Remember: we were Clarkies together. I remember well how you operate. (Gotta say, though, you were nowhere near this offensive when you supported Clark.)

So, drop the drama. You can't impugn others for the very offense you have committed.

[onehandle]

10. Thank You!

I thought I was the only one with that memory!

[mtnsnake]

11. haha, I guess someone is BUSTED.

[rodeodance]

34. REPENT-REPENT

[FrenchieCat]

15. Hey....I was part of the Clarkie Conspiracy. Remember me?

And I would ask you, as you post here so righteously, If you supported Dean, why would you want to see that same meme perpetuated now?

Why wouldn't you want me to call out bullshit?

Want to read? I don't see you in these threads? Why not? What's your excuse?

Where's your idignation?

Guardian (UK): "Perhaps I should join the cult"
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4448476


COME TO OBAMA! "Obama volunteers... share personal conversion stories"
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4445389&mesg_id=4445389


NY Times: Obama's campaign "seems to teeter on becoming a cult of personality"
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4448390&mesg_id=4448390

[Maddy McCall]

22. I see that rooting out links is your strong point. Obviously, reading comprehension isn't.

I was a CLARKIE. You know that. I was even invited to join the "super-secret" off-DU Clark forum that you frequented. Remember? Where y'all "coordinated support" for Clark? I visited once, and left.

Like I said, I know how you operate.

[FrenchieCat]

36. Oooh, Clarkies have been found out!

I'll make sure to let the top secret crew know that you'll drop a dime, if that's what it takes.

Thanks! :hi:

So anyways, did you find those links that you are accusing me of on Dean's part? I'd like to see them.

Thanks!

[Maddy McCall]

47. Those were crazy times...It's fun watching you pretending you don't remember.

My memory suffices. As for links, I'm sure you are well aware that there are no archival searches for prior to 2005. Again, lucky you.


Evidently, my memory is much better than yours, because you don't even remember the PM exchanges we had back then, during the Clark v. Dean wars--when we were both Clarkies.

[FrenchieCat]

65. Actually, I don't.

Should I take your word for it?

Why don't you enlighten us some more since you want to go down the road.

[in_cog_ni_to]

42. You have got to be kidding me?! You have posted some of the most offensive

racist shit I've ever seen on this board and YOU have the NERVE to "call out" the "cult" meme? That is fucking laughable! The Obama followers ACT like a cult. You don't like that meme? STOP ACTING LIKE A CULT!

I cannot believe you use to be a Clark supporter! He would be SO disgusted by the things you have said on this board. Get off your fucking high horse.

[FrenchieCat]

67. Provide me with the links.....please

instead of pointing your fingers with using upper caps for punctuation.

[Maddy McCall]

79. ...says the queen of upper caps and asterisks.

You are a riot.

[FrenchieCat]

90. Whatever floats your boat and allows you to save face.......

keep pointing your finger at me, like I give a fuck.

[BlackVelvet04]

Um, Maybe you should read those articles and get a clue....

it's obviously not just US who think you guys act like cult members.

[FrenchieCat]

82. Oh....cause one article in Britain says so, it makes it the truth?

Thanks for letting me know how it goes.

A meme is something that casts things in a particular light, and then is repeated over and over again.

That's how we got into this fucking war.

So what is it in your opinion that makes Obama supporters act like "cult" members? Try using your own words.

[BlackVelvet04]

101. It was 3 articles.....

and I know what a meme is.

Try using my own words? Fuck you, how are those for my own words.

[FrenchieCat]

130. Oh yeah...that's right,

Bill was real busy on the phone during Super Tuesday....

[lastliberalintexas]

72. Love you Maddie

:) I really don't know why I even clicked on this thread, since I'd already told myself I needed to just ignore the OP.

[Maddy McCall]

84. ...

:hi:


Something else, isn't it? :D

[lastliberalintexas]

116. How have you been?

Midlodemocrat and I kind of hijacked a useless thread earlier, hopefully someone can redirect this one as well.

I really don't even know why I come into this forum. I don't have a candidate, and the tripe posted in here doesn't help.

I hope you and your son are well. :hi:

[Maddy McCall]

123. We're doing great!

Staying busy...got a couple days off this week for Mardi Gras.

I think this thread is a thing of beauty...bookmark-worthy. :D

[Uncle Sinister]

9. I know many intelligent folk who want Obama. Just wish more of them were here.

[FrenchieCat]

17. Why wouldn't you want me to call out bullshit?

Guardian (UK): "Perhaps I should join the cult"
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4448476


COME TO OBAMA! "Obama volunteers... share personal conversion stories"
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4445389&mesg_id=4445389


NY Times: Obama's campaign "seems to teeter on becoming a cult of personality"
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4448390&mesg_id=4448390

[BlackVelvet04]

85. Maybe you need to take a look at the fact

there are a number of different sources saying the same thing.

[in_cog_ni_to]

132. OBVIOUSLY, there's truth to what we say! When people across the freakin' pond notice it

SOMETHING is VERY wrong! We aren't alone! In fact, I actually heard a MSM talking head call you people a CULT today! Now, THAT is saying something because they never say anything derogatory about Jim Obama Jones and his cult followers.

[Cha]

12. What hilary supporters have

to say about anything means less than zero to me. In fact it's a badge of honor.

[Seen the light]

13. I really don't care what they call it

They want to decry me by saying I'm a cult member for supporting him? Then sign me up for the Church of Obama! :P

[Drunken Irishman]

14. I heard the same thing when I supported Dean in '04.

Fuck 'em.

[Maddy McCall]

16. Indeed. You heard it from Frenchie.

[Drunken Irishman]

19. Whether it was from Frenchie or anyone, it's bullshit.

It was bullshit then and it's bullshit now.

I'm sure they called RFK suppports cultish as well.

[okasha]

80. No, they didn't.

n/t

[Drunken Irishman]

97. Oh, so they had more class than many people today.

Good to know.

[okasha]

117. No.

They called us commies, dirty nothings, hippies and traitors.

[Drunken Irishman]

129. Well then, they're just as bad as those who call Obama supporters Cultish.

[FrenchieCat]

20. Find the post you keep refering to........

do a search.

I said a lot of things, but I don't recall calling the Dean supporters cult members.

[Maddy McCall]

25. Oh, you said that and much more.

You are something else, you are.

Edit to add: Archive searches only go back to 2005. Lucky you.

[FrenchieCat]

41. Maybe you are the one that's lucky.....since you are the one doing the

"J'accuse!" number.

[Maddy McCall]

51. It stings, doesn't it...

:*

[FrenchieCat]

71. Actually, it doesn't......

But I've now got your number.

Your smile is apropos.

Waiting for flies, I see.

[K Gardner]

23. Exactly, Irish. Its deliberately designed to belittle anyone who supports Obama. As their other

attacks have gone, this one will backfire. Tens of millions of Americans won't appreciate being called cultists by Hillary Clinton and surrogates. And they wonder why there is no love for Hillary.

[journalist3072]

18. You just don't get it, do you? You are totally clueless.

Sen. Clinton is NOT running on her husband's record.

She's running on HER record.

When she talks about the success of the Clinton Administration, yes....she talks about what she did to make some of those things happen.

Do you even realize that as First Lady, she went to Beijing, stared down the Chinese in their own backyard, and said "Women's rights are human rights, and human rights are women's rights, once and for all."

Do you even realize that as First Lady, she spoke out very forcefully for the veterans returning from the first Gulf War, and worked hard to get Gulf War Syndrome recognized as a real illness.

Do you even realize she went all over the world, and in places like Africa, championed "microcredit" loans that helped people, especially women, get control of their destiny by allowing them to get microcredit loans to start their own businesses. One of the reasons she continues to be held in such high regard the world over, is because she wasn't just resting on her laurals...she was getting the job done.

And she has also taken responsiblity for their failures, such as the health care debacle.

But even more importantly is this point:

One of the the themes that Sen. Clinton constantly returns to, is doing what we know works. That when we know what works...we need to build on that. For example, when she talks about creating jobs in this country, she says we can do that. We know how to create jobs in this country, because we've done it before.

[FrenchieCat]

26. Do you have a link on any of these accomplishments?

I'll take them here.

Thanks.

[journalist3072]

52. Yes indeed I most certainly do. Here you go...

Hillary Clinton Urges Attention to Gulf War Ailments

By TODD S. PURDUM
Published: August 15, 1995
Hillary Rodham Clinton urged a Presidential commission today to leave no stone unturned in investigating why thousands of veterans of the Persian Gulf war returned with various illnesses, even as a panel of independent medical experts suggested that the Pentagon might have been too hasty in concluding that there was no evidence of a "gulf war syndrome."

"No issue is off-limits and every reasonable inquiry should be pursued," Mrs. Clinton told the first meeting of the President's Advisory Committee on Gulf War Veterans' Illnesses. President Clinton formed the commission to evaluate the undiagnosed illnesses that have afflicted many who served in the Persian Gulf during military operations in late 1990 and early 1991.

-snip-

Mrs. Clinton has taken an interest in the issue since she received complaints from veterans during her work on health care last year, and the commission invited her to speak.

Addressing the group today at the Capital Hilton here, she said, "Thousands of veterans who were healthy when they left for the gulf war are now ill." She added, "Based on the research to date, however, experts have concluded that there is not enough evidence to call this a syndrome."

Source:
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=990CE4DF163FF936A2575BC0A963958260


HILLARY CLINTON, IN CHINA, DETAILS ABUSE OF WOMEN

By PATRICK E. TYLER
Published: September 6, 1995
Speaking more forcefully on human rights than any American dignitary has on Chinese soil, Hillary Rodham Clinton catalogued a devastating litany of abuse that has afflicted women around the world today and criticized China for seeking to limit free and open discussion of women's issues here.

"It is time for us to say here in Beijing, and the world to hear, that it is no longer acceptable to discuss women's rights as separate from human rights," Mrs. Clinton told the Fourth World Conference on Women assembled here.

"It is a violation of human rights when babies are denied food, or drowned, or suffocated, or their spines broken, simply because they are born girls," Mrs. Clinton said, or "when women and girls are sold into slavery or prostitution for human greed.

"It is a violation of human rights when women are doused with gasoline, set on fire and burned to death because their marriage dowries are deemed too small" she continued, or "when thousands of women are raped in their own communities and when thousands of women are subjected to rape as a tactic or prize of war."

Source: http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=990CEFDF133DF935A3575AC0A963958260


USAID Announces $240 Million Microenterprise Initiative
(Hillary Clinton offers enthusiastic support)
By Berta Gomez, USIA Staff Writer, July 24, 1997

Washington. The United States is allocating $240 million over two years to make small, low-interest loans available to the world's poorest families, officials said July 24.

First Lady Hillary Rodham Clinton joined lawmakers and administration officials at a Capitol Hill ceremony renewing the 1994 Microenterprise Development Initiative, through which the U.S. Agency for International Development (USAID) funds lending and training programs that help poor families start or expand small businesses.

"Microcredit is one of the strongest strategies we can employ to assist people to help themselves," the first lady said.

Recipient organizations have included the Jordanian Women's Development Society, Ugafode in Uganda, the Janashakthi Bank Society in Sri Lanka, Banco Solidario in Ecuador and the Rural Bankers' Association of the Philippines.

The renewed USAID program builds on more than 15 years of support for microenterprise as a tool for development. It also builds on the momentum of the first-ever Microcredit Summit in Washington this past February, where donor governments, multilateral banks and non-governmental organizations pledged to make microcredit services available to 100 million families worldwide by the year 2005. Those services now reach an estimated 8 to 10 million families.

"Microenterprise fosters progress at all levels," Hillary Clinton said in a statement. "By empowering people at the grassroots, it deepens the commitment of citizens to democracy. By providing credit to the poor, it allows ever more men and women to pull themselves out of poverty and enter the economic mainstream. By offering new opportunities to women, it moves us all closer to making real the dream of equality."

Source: http://www.hemyockcastle.co.uk/jana3.htm


I hope this info is helpful to you!

[FrenchieCat]

77. Making speeches is great! but she wasn't involved in National security

via having national security clearance or sitting in on meetings.

So why is she so "ready from day one"? Cause she spoke about human rights in front of a foreign audience?

Or because she worked for less than a year for the Children's Defense Fund?

That's 35 years of "experience" making her ready for day one?

[journalist3072]

87. Umm....excuse me, but she just wasn't giving great speeches. That would be YOUR candidate.

And of COURSE she wasn't in on national security meetings and didn't have a clearance. That would not have been appropriate. And as she has said, if she is elected, her husband will not have a clearance, and he will not be in on meetings. She said she doesn't think that would be appropriate.

However, she was still his closest adviser, and she knows how a White House works. She knows how to navigate through the system and get things done.

And it's not just her White House years that she has focused on.

From my own personal perspective, this is how Sen. Clinton has brought about change over 35 years:

- Working on children's issues as a member of the Children's Defense Fund

- Reforming education in Arkansas

- Holding the first White House Conference on Breast Cancer

- Listening to ill veterans, and working to get Gulf War Syndrome recognized as a very real and serious disease

- Promoting democracy by staring down the Chinese in their own backyard and saying "Women's rights are human rights, and human rights are women's rights, once and for all."

- Empowering people to take control of their destiny by going to different parts of the world and championing issues like "microcredit," which allows people to receive microcredit loans, which many use to start their own businesses

- Being a champion for the first-responders to Ground Zero, and being one of the first people to recognize the health issues they would face from the toxic air they breathed, and working tirelessly on their behalf

- Forcing the Pentagon to reverse course and helping sponsor legislation which tells the Pentagon no way will we allow you get try to get back the signing bonuses of injured troops

- Demanding a closed-door session with the Pentagon so that you can learn what, if anything, they are doing to prepare for withdrawal from Iraq

- Preventing George W. Bush from privatizing social security

[BlackVelvet04]

89. have a "few" more....

Her first cause was children, fighting abuse, and chairing the Children's Defense Fund.

# During 1974 she was a member of the Nixon impeachment inquiry staff in Washington D.C., advising the House Committee on the Judiciary during the Watergate scandal. She helped research procedures of impeachment and the historical grounds and standards for impeachment.

# Hillary co-founded the Arkansas Advocates for Children and Families, a state-level alliance with the Children's Defense Fund, in 1977.

# In late 1977, President Jimmy Carter appointed her to the board of directors of the Legal Services Corporation.

# Bill Clinton appointed her chair of the Rural Health Advisory Committee where she successfully obtained federal funds to expand medical facilities in Arkansas' poorest areas without affecting doctors' fees.

# One of the most important initiatives of the entire Clinton governorship, she fought a prolonged but ultimately successful battle against the Arkansas Education Association to put mandatory teacher testing as well as state standards for curriculum and classroom size in place.

# She introduced Arkansas' Home Instruction Program for Preschool Youth in 1985, a program that helps parents work with their children in preschool preparedness and literacy.

# in 1997 she helped establish the State Children's Health Insurance Program (SCHIP) and the Adoption and Safe Families Act.

# As a Senator and after the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001, Hillary worked with her colleagues to secure the funds New York needed to recover and rebuild.

# She fought to provide compensation to the families of the victims, grants for hard-hit small businesses, and health care for front line workers at Ground Zero.

# She is the first New Yorker ever to serve on the Senate Armed Services Committee.

# She has visited troops in Iraq and Afghanistan and in countless other locations, truly understanding the challenges facing our troops.

# Hillary passed legislation to track the health status of our troops so that conditions like Gulf War Syndrome would no longer be misdiagnosed.

# She is an original sponsor of legislation that expanded health benefits to members of the National Guard and Reserves and has been a strong critic of the Administration's handling of Iraq.

# She has introduced legislation to tie Congressional salary increases to an increase in the minimum wage.

# She has supported a variety of middle-class tax cuts, including marriage penalty relief, property tax relief, and reduction in the Alternative Minimum Tax, and supports fiscally responsible pay-as-you-go budget rules.

# She helped pass legislation that encouraged investment to create jobs in struggling communities through the Renewal Communities program.

# She authored legislation that has been enacted to improve quality and lower the cost of prescription drugs and to protect our food supply from bioterrorism.

# She sponsored legislation to increase America's commitment to fighting the global HIV/AIDS crisis.

# She has lead the fight for the expanded use of information technology in the health care system to decrease administrative costs, lower premiums, and reduce medical errors.

# Clinton has successfully worked to ensure the safety of prescription drugs for children, with legislation now included in the Best Pharmaceuticals for Children Act.

# She has also proposed expanding access to child care.

# She has passed legislation that will bring more qualified teachers into classrooms and more outstanding principals to lead our schools.

# Hillary is one of the original cosponsors of the Prevention First Act to increase access to family planning.

# She fought with the Bush Administration and ensured that Plan B, an emergency contraceptive, will be available to millions of American women and will reduce the need for abortions.

# She introduced the Count Every Vote Act of 2005 to ensure better protection of votes and to ensure that every vote is counted.

[FrenchieCat]

94. How long did she work for the Children's Defense Fund?

And how long was she on the Board of Wallmart?

[BlackVelvet04]

111. I'm not playing your little passive

aggressive oh so familiar right wing game. I've played it with better than you and I know how it works. You demand answers, you get them, you switch subjects and demand more answers. Not happening, bucko. You've got Google...use it.

[FrenchieCat]

140. Asking about specifics on Hillary's resume is a RW game?

So you don't have an answer, hey?

Maybe someone else will.

[PretzelWarrior]

21. kicked and recommended. this is smart

we must defeat the Clinton attack machine by dishing back out the other direction. Obama won't stand idly by while he is attacked as Kerry did, and we won't either.

Don't let Clinton supporters put some stupid label on you, Obama people.

[rodeodance]

24. the cult meme sure beats that little conjuration in IP

[Donnachaidh]

27. one pundit writes an opinion and this is the response?

I'm hiding my couch from the lot of you. Talk about over the top reaction.

:rofl:

[Bluebear]

28. 'I turned to her & said "He just shook hands with Barack," to which she responded."Hey, give it up!

"You shook his hand didn't you?" Happily the guy said "Yes." I then said, "give me some of that" and the guy shook my hand with the same hand he had just clasped with Barack's. A woman friend of mine who was standing next to me saw me shake hands with the guy. I turned to her and said "He just shook hands with Barack," to which she responded..."Hey, give it up." We then shook hands. She then turned to the person next to her and shook hands. This chain of hand shakes went on for about five or six more persons...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=4057783

:crazy:

[rodeodance]

35. please let me touch your hand--please please

[Bluebear]

38. BAM!

[rodeodance]

43. oh thank you thank you--I am saved i am saved i am saved~~

[nonconformist]

78. Can I get a pony with my BAM!?

One oozing with charisma, of course.

[Bluebear]

102. Just hope, real hard!

[rodeodance]

60. that photo sure fits the cult scene

[FrenchieCat]

92. is that a pic of Obama....cause he's not in that pic.

Now this! This is scary! :scared:




and you can buy paraphenelia of this too! http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=&imgrefurl=http://www.hillaryclintonismyhomegirl.com/&h=426&w=510&sz=22&hl=en&start=16&um=1&tbnid=eJ9WZstJsx1XrM:&tbnh=109&tbnw=131&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dhillary%2Bclinton%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26rls%3Dcom.microsoft:en-US%26sa%3DN

[TexasObserver]

32. When they call Obama fans a CULT, I swell the stench of their desperation

They're getting their asses handed to them. They're seeing the dream evaporate. Of course they will strike out in anger. Let them scream and cry it out, and when Hillary finally goes down the third time, they'll have to accept it.

Cult is just a word one group uses to label another group it fears.

[rodeodance]

40. Obambabies are sure IN-spired by that word despiration--

[AZBlue]

33. Being in a cult = following someone despite all logic and sense.

Following someone who doesn't care about you. Following someone who's just in it for themselves. Following someone who will lie, cheat and steal to get ahead. Following someone despite the fact that its against your own best interest to do so.

Sounds like a different group of people to me....

[billbuckhead]

39. And here are the Obama supporters in action!

Make your own call!

<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzFOOcEQtP0>

[rodeodance]

48. ACTION-CAMERAS-LIGHTS~~

[Bluebear]

49. Holy moly

I dare you to post that separately.

Of course, people will say it's on FOX so it was staged :)

[Maddy McCall]

105. Or that Fox staged it because they're "scared" of Obama.

:)

[in_cog_ni_to]

59. That is the PERFECT example!

Pathetic and scary as hell.

[nonconformist]

75. Eeeek!

And there you have it.

[AtomicKitten]

44. If we get enough members, can we open a credit union?

[rodeodance]

63. oh, won't HOPE do?

[AtomicKitten]

74. We've got so much hope lying about the place, I'd like to open an account. (nt)

[Avalux]

46. A cult? Because we want to change the status quo government?

I call that patriontism! :D

[rodeodance]

53. NO-its the Vision thingy, the bandwagon, the glitter, the blind-faith, the platitudes. ect ect

[Avalux]

56. What do you think drove our founding fathers? Vision. Hope. Belief.

If they didn't have that and didn't get people to jump on the bandwagon, we'd still be a colony of Britian.

[grantcart]

50. jealousy they wish Hillary had the same inspirational effect

[Bluebear]

54. Yes it's all "jealousy" lol

[billbuckhead]

61. That's the freaking point! Many liberals don't want a redeemer, we want a bureaucrat!

The more hot air a politician blows the harder the fall for the electorate. We've had enough preaching politicians. Obama vs Huckabee would be the end of what little civilization American has left.

[in_cog_ni_to]

62. yep......we're jealous of your cult.

:eyes:

[FrenchieCat]

98. No, you are jealous that your candidate doesn't stand for shit

but power.

Ya'll are the cult. The Cult of dynasties.

[Maddy McCall]

113. Thar she blows!

See the pattern of behavior?

:rofl:

[jlake]

57. Just remember: only Obama cares. Don't listen to anyone else - they don't understand

you or care about you.

Yes we can! Yes we can! Yes we can!
Yes we can! Yes we can! Yes we can!
Yes we can! Yes we can! Yes we can!
Yes we can! Yes we can! Yes we can!
Yes we can! Yes we can! Yes we can!

[TexasObserver]

58. They have a few thousand contributors, while O has 1/2 million

He's got the following. She's got the cult. Look around here, and it's pretty clear whose supporters are bat shit crazy.

[PeaceNikki]

64. "Bat shit crazy" has no candidate. It crosses the entire political spectrum.

[TexasObserver]

76. no, not here

here, 90% of the bat shit crazy are Hillary supporters

[nonconformist]

88. That's weird... because I haven't seen a single Clinton supporter that worships her

Or who can't criticize her on certain things.

Also, look around... the Clinton supporters are more up to speed on the issues.

[TexasObserver]

114. that's weird

I thought I'd already put you on ignore

[nonconformist]

121. Go for it, n00b.

I think that's a typical trait for cults... ignore and avoid all contrary information and surround yourself only with those who believe like you do.

[incapsulated]

125. Indeed, I was one of her harshest critics and still don't put her on a pedestal

She and Saint Obama are POLITICIANS.

Generally not people I admire, let alone idolize.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

68. First time the Democratic Party has been called a CULT!!!!!

Obama is a Democratic Party member

[Straight Shooter]

70. Wow! Someone sure struck a nerve.

I think the Obama campaign headquarters should be located in Egypt, by a certain river.

By the way, the observations of the cultish aspects of the Barack followers have been discussed amongst people who aren't in the least bit interested in politics as we are here on DU, but these everyday people do notice aberrant behavior when it occurs in large crowds and focused on one individual with a persona that is eerily suggestive of events we have witnessed unfolding before.

[JVS]

73. They're just jealous because deep down they actually dislike their candidate.

They're just afraid to do anything about it, so they continue to support their DLC, IWR, piece of garbage candidate.

[sniffa]

93. nice

:rofl:

:thumbsup:

[JVS]

100. People bitch a lot on this website about "Letting the perfect be the enemy of the good"

However, I have seen a poster today (who KICKS ASS!) who attacked Obama for being 'only slightly better' than Clinton. WTF kind of head up a horse's ass logic is that. We now have people who let the "Slightly worse be the enemy of the good" Why do they want the wheaties that have been pissed in more? My only conclusion has to be that they suffer from a case of gutless turd syndrome.

[BlackVelvet04]

120. What's sad is you don't even get how STUPID what you just

wrote is.

[Straight Shooter]

124. Check the record. There are major DLC politicians supporting Barack. n/t

[rug]

83. Well, from which of them would you take a Watchtower?

[sniffa]

91. Whatever Kool Aid drinker

I just finished donating to Obama.

[citizen snips]

95. If Obama has a cult personality

it sure does not show in the debates.

[NMMNG]

96. Call bullshit if you want

But it's a pervasive meme for a reason. If you'd take a objective look at it you might be able to understand. There's even a clergy-person here at DU who has attended Obama rallies and come away stating that they're like cult experiences. Just the way people are crying yet can't explain why, and have no idea what he stands for but they love him to no end. That's not a political event, that's a religious experience.



Read this for another take on it.

[FrenchieCat]

103. It isn't a pervasive meme....although Y'all are trying very hard.....

We've gone from attempting the POlitics of hate on the candidate, to the politics of hate onto the candidate's supporters.

You should be proud....NOT!

[nonconformist]

106. You can say it's not all you want, but it's out there.

Lots of people are talking about this, not just on DU. There's a good reason for that.

[NMMNG]

115. If it's reached the UK

It's obviously a pervasive meme. Do you think I've been sending secret messages to writers of newspapers in the UK?

I'm not that powerful.


And don't even try to pull that politics of hate crap with me, dear. You and your pals own it.

[in_cog_ni_to]

133. Wrong again. A MSM talking head called it a cult today on the teevee! People are finally waking up

and seeing that Jim Obama Jones has no substance. He talks a good game though. Just like Jim Jones did.

[angie_love]

107. Thats ok frenchie

They can consider us "cult-like" and we can consider them dumbasses for voting for a candidate who supporting a senseless, dumbass war that killed thousands. I'd rather have my candidate then theirs.

[Bluebear]

110. Angie, your candidate voted to fund it.

They are both dumbasses when it comes down to that, as is the whole congress.

[angie_love]

118. Yeah you know what he funded so the military could have supplies

they needed. What he was going to let them rot there with no supplies? nuh uh.

[Bluebear]

119. Oh my, you think it's all about supplies?

[WinkyDink]

109. How did Obama VOTE on that "stupid Iran resolution"?

[Straight Shooter]

122. How do you think he voted? He didn't vote at all.

The man has a commitment problem when it comes to putting his vote where his mouth is.

[in_cog_ni_to]

135. Wouldn't want anything on the voting record to screw up a perfectly good Presidential Campaign.

Heavens no!

[in_cog_ni_to]

134. Hmmmm.....I seem to recall

He didn't. 1 more cover your ass no vote.

[Sapphocrat]

126. New meme:

Refusing to buy into the Cult-O'-Personality means you are a racist. I call bullshit.

Not that you'll see this reply, as you obviously have me on ignore.

[psychopomp]

138. Some people are very disrespectful of others' choices

I support Sen. Obama because he represents our best chance of turning this country around. I have no illusions about his frailties, I just think he is the best for the job.

[stillcool]

141. It is amazing...

all the derogatory names that people come up with when they want to tear somebody down. There is no place for discussion, because there is nothing they wish to discuss. Same kind of language you'd expect from a nasty old drunk.