DLC: Should it be disbanded and Al From fired?

[Hawkeye-X]

Or kick out the right-wing fuckwits and bring back the original concept of DLC that Clinton and Gore founded back in '92?

Discuss.

[Avalux]

1. No discussion needed. YES. n/t

[jlake]

2. No, it should take over the DNC. Like when the state takes over failing schools.

[Hawkeye-X]

7. How's that working for you - Clinton is right-wing DLC through and Through

and listens to McAuliffe and From.

Failed 17-state strategy.

etc.

Hawkeye-X

[jlake]

9. I don't know why you are comparing a Democratic primary with Howard Dean's failure at DNC?

[Hawkeye-X]

12. And exactly how did Dean fail?

We solidified the House and won back the Senate in '06. That strategy is definetely Dean's doing and it WORKS.

It's only going to get stronger with Obama following the plan.

Hawkeye-X

[jlake]

13. I am sorry, but 2006 was a disappointment compared to the gains we SHOULD

have and COULD have made. Disenfranchising Florida and MI voters is going to alienate them in the GE.
Howard Dean needs to be replaced ASAP - and I'll bet you Obama would do it too.

[fightthegoodfightnow]

19. Agree........

................ so what's Hillary's excuse...........assuming she is a 'leader'.

[kelligesq]

23. Rahm Emanuel and Pelosi brought in the right wingers and we're paying for it

Rahm Emanuel who wanted to get rid of Dean

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[newmajority]

24. The reason we didn't get more gains in 2006

Is because DLC goons Rahm Emmanuel and Chuck Schumer would only support candidates who supported their vomitous agenda.

[jlake]

25. Riiiiiiight.

[mdmc]

29. DEAN IS THE MAN!

There is still HOPE!

[Fox Mulder]

3. Absolutely.

[dpbrown]

4. Should have happened in 2004

If not then, in 2006, after yet another dismal showing by DLC backed candidates.

[marmar]

5. I would love to bid adieu to the DLC....

... Good riddance.

[kaygore]

6. Yes

[fightthegoodfightnow]

8. The DLC is Irrelevant

Let them claim to be "Democrats". Most democrats find them amusing.

[asthmaticeog]

10. Disbanded, doused with gasoline...

... I'll stop there.

[OzarkDem]

11. Its not part of the Democratic Party

Its just another special interest group that happens to have the word in its name.

It will stay alive as long as corporations who want to influence elections give to it.

[Bread and Circus]

17. here's your lady, Mrs. DLC herself:

http://www.dlc.org/ndol_sub.cfm?kaid=137&subid=900111

DLC Leadership Team
Hillary Rodham Clinton


DLC | Blueprint Magazine | October 18, 2006
Fulfilling the American Dream
By Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton
In 2005, Sen. Clinton took charge of the American Dream Initiative, a collaboration to strengthen the middle class. A year later, she unveiled the product of that effort at the DLC's National Conversation.



DLC | Speech | July 24, 2006
Remarks of Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton at the 2006 DLC National Conversation
By Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton
"Our strength, our economy, our values derive from the promise of America, the promise of lifting yourself up through hard work in a society that rewarded results."



DLC | Blueprint Magazine | July 22, 2006
Saving the American Dream
By Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, Sen. Tom Carper, and Gov. Tom Vilsack
We must build an opportunity agenda for the middle class and all who want to join it.



DLC | Blueprint Magazine | October 21, 2005
America in 2020
By Hillary Rodham Clinton
The chair of the DLC's American Dream Initiative has an optimistic vision of the not-too-distant future.



Office of Sen. Hillary Clinton | Press Release | September 6, 2005
Clinton Unveils Legislation to Restore FEMA to Independent, Cabinet-Level Status
On the heels of her visit with victims of Hurricane Katrina in Houston yesterday, Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton is introducing legislation today to restore FEMA to Cabinet-level, independent federal agency status to ensure that it has the authority it needs to effectively manage recovery efforts for future national crises.



DLC | Speech | July 26, 2005
Remarks of Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton to the 2005 DLC National Conversation
"We have come to Columbus today to begin a new voyage of discovery toward the America our children deserve from us. That is our solemn responsibility and our great calling as Democrats and Americans."



DLC | Press Release | July 25, 2005
Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton Accepts Position as Chair of the DLC's 'American Dream Initiative'
The American Dream Initiative is a year-long project of the DLC that will engage political, business, labor, civic and intellectual leaders in a "national conversation" to help shape a positive agenda for our country and the Democratic party.



DLC | New Dem Of The Week | August 5, 2002
New Dem of the Week: Hillary Rodham Clinton
New York Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton last week hosted the 2002 DLC National Conversation in New York City, anchoring the two-day program with a stirring keynote address that focused on the major themes of the event: security, opportunity, and responsibility.



_______________________________

Now, what were you saying about the DLC? :hi:

[fightthegoodfightnow]

18. Agree.........

It's the Democratic wing of the Republican party.

:)

[Sarah Ibarruri]

14. :-) I have a question....

I looked up the DLC and the only photo I found of this so-called Al From was a black and white one from the 50s (it seemed). Is this man in his 90s or what?

And as for an answer to your question, how about a resounding YES? This is what I felt like doing to the computer looking at the DLC website: :argh:

[TexasObserver]

15. It can't be disbanded by outsiders, and he can't be fired.

He runs it. He essentially owns it.

It's not a public concern. It's a private concern.

The original concept of the DLC was not Clinton or Gore's. It was Al From's, and he created it in 1984-1985.

Should you despise Al From? Absolutely.

[Bread and Circus]

16. I don't know ask one of their leaders:

[harun]

21. I was reading a bit about the DLC tonight and I encourage anyone

else who doesn't know what they stand for to do the same:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Leadership_Council

Basically anti-populist, anti-pacifist, anti-universal health care, pro-government tailoring policy to meet corporate interests, pro-war, pro-U.S. Imperialism.

[kelligesq]

27. No, lets be real here shall we- if you want the real scoop on the DLC here:

http://209.85.207.104/search?q=cache:ZN12XA4z6M8J:www.ndol.org/ndol_ci.cfm%3Fkaid%3D86%26subid%3D85%26contentid%3D893+current+leader+of+Democratic+DLC&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us

[Individualist]

31. ROFL

The real scoop, and your link is to DLC's website?

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

"Let's just look at the cold, hard facts about the DLC and its record. The DLC has pushed, among other things, the war in Iraq and "free" trade policies, using bags of corporate money to buy enough Democratic votes to help Republicans make those policies a reality. They have chastised anyone who has opposed those policies as either unpatriotic or anti-business -- even as a majority of Americans now oppose the war in Iraq, oppose the DLC's business-written trade deals, and are sick of watching America's economy sold out to the highest corporate bidder. Additionally, in brazenly Orwellian fashion, the DLC has also called its extremist agenda "centrist," even though polls show the American public opposes most of their agenda, and supports much of the progressive agenda." http://www.commondreams.org/views05/0727-32.htm


"This is why the DLC is dangerous. For all their claims of supposedly wanting to help Democrats, they employ people like Marshall Wittman who specifically try to undermine the Democratic Party, even if it means he has to publicly defecate out the most rank and easily-debunkable lies. They reguarly give credence to the right wing's agenda and its worst, most unsupportable lies. They are the real force that tries to make sure this country is a one party state and that Democrats never really challenge the Republicans in a serious way." http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-sirota/why-the-dlc-is-so-dangero_b_13640.html

"The Democratic Leadership Council's agenda is indistinguishable from the Republican Neoconservative agenda," http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Kucinich_DLC_agenda_undistinguishable_from_Neocon_0813.html

http://dlcwatch.blogspot.com

"Without a doubt, the DLC is the most fundamentalist organization within the caucus, the most ideologically rigid, and the most destructive to the progressive cause."
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2004/5/24/1712/23448

"These DLC types are amazing, they really are. Their pathology is unique; they all secretly worship the guilt-by-association tactics of Lee Atwater and Karl Rove, but unlike those two, not one of them has enough balls to take being thought of as the bad guy by the general public."
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/11275627/the_low_post_democrats_walk_themselves_to_the_gallows

[newmajority]

20. From should be fired. Will Marshall should be charged with treason.

He's a PNAC signator. :grr:

[Individualist]

26. Yes, yes, a thousand times yes

Tarred, feathered and disbanded.

[mdmc]

28. Same now as it was in 92

Bunch of Zell Miller pricks

[New Dawn]

30. The DLC should just go join the GOP

It is where they belong!