Penn strategy: To portray Hillary as the victim.

[Skwmom]

Poor Clinton, she is the victim of a husband she can't control.

Poor Clinton, she is out of money, and unlike a rich person like Romney who can well afford it, poor Clinton has to loan her campaign money. (Or so says the so called anti-Clinton media).

Poor Clinton, she is a victim of the anti-Clinton media (which is just laughable to anyone who actually watches CNN, MSNBC, etc.)

I am getting so sick of hearing about poor Clinton. What about the poor people who lost their jobs due to the Clintons pushing of free trade (and spare me the "H.Clinton didn't support NAFTA argument which has already been debunked)?

Working class people supporting the Clintons reminds me of how the Republicans got the southerners to vote against their own economic interests.

[K Gardner]

1. Worked in NH. Go with what works, I guess.

[scheming daemons]

2. Buy Kleenex stock on or before March 3rd....

...you know an "emotional moment" will be coming the day before Ohio/Texas primaries.

[lvx35]

3. Poor Clinton, she's the victim of nonstop bitching online.

That much I can see with my own eyes, why wouldn't I believe the other things?

[Thrill]

4. This guy has been everywhere bitching and whining today

Their internals must not be good at all.

[Colobo]

5. Poor Mark Penn, he's been a victim of evil unions.

[Cha]

15. mark penn is a victim of his

own strategy. I've read that if they had just let hilary be hilary she might have sailed through this with no problems..

[Skwmom]

20. Poor Hillary, now she's a victim of her campaign team. Funny, Hillary being

Hillary, coming across as brittle, entitled to the nomination, as enjoying dirty campaigning (e.g., now the real fun begins, as it all being about me, me, me (Hillary) didn't seem to be doing so well.

[Cha]

22. Maybe that was after they got to her?

I dunno..who knows..I haven't liked her since Oct 2002 and she never did anything to change my mind ..only make it worse.

[JVS]

6. Oh noes, her grassroots campaign is in danger.

[Unsane]

7. Obama needs to just ignore it and keep doing what he's doing.

[NJSecularist]

8. Poor Hillary, what an underdog she is...

:eyes: :eyes: :eyes:

[Big Blue Marble]

9. It is always designed so that her supporters will rescue her.

It is the Clinton magic that always has worked, so keep using it.

She plays the victim so well.

[SaveOurDemocracy]

10. I'm sure you just forgot to post a link?

Or ... did it just fall out of your ass?


You guys better lay off the

[Skwmom]

13. What link is required? Have you been watching the primary process?

The poor victim routine is getting really old and speaks volumes about what she and her campaign thinks about the intelligence of woman voters (and as a woman I find that extremely offensive).

[SaveOurDemocracy]

19. I have been ... and think maybe you should turn the sound

down on your TeeVee.

[CoffeeCat]

11. What happened is that...

...the Clintons are lost.

They expected to run their usual dirty games and "gotcha" manipulations as long as
Obama was still in it.

Then Ted Kennedy stepped in. His endorsement was also a political kneecapping of the
Clinton. Ted Kennedy, on a public platform, called out each and every one of Hillary's
baseless distortions about Obama, and obliterated them.

No longer do they have "He's not ready on day one!" or "He wasn't AGAINST the Iraq
war from the beginning!" or (my personal favorite) "But...but...He's got no experience!"

They're playing the sad sacks because they don't know how to run an honest, clean contest.

Right now, they're all standing around an empty chalkboard, saying, "Ok, what the fuck do
we do now?"

They are lost and upset---because they are not able to run their slash-and-burn, dirty,
underhanded political machine through this country as they intended.

Without it, they lose. They've got no ground game, and it really sounds like they've got
no volunteer base who runs their ground game--as opposed to Obama, who has an army of
loyal supporters willing to travel great distances to help him out.

Hillary is a victim. She's a victim of herself. I'm not going to feel sorry for someone
who was FORCED to stop lying about a fellow Democrat and who only stopped the political
evisceration of Obama, AFTER she was called out by Ted Kennedy and she had no choice but
to cease and desist.

If Kennedy had not spoken out, Hillary and Bill would STILL be painting Obama as a Reagan-loving,
supply-side, flip flopper who really didn't oppose the Iraq war and can't stop comparing himself
to JFK and MLK---when he's not busy giving those inspirational, but empty, speeches of his.

Playing victim is classless and it's pitiful. Anyway, she's not a victim. She's playing
the victim. She's still in abuse mode, but this time she's trying to manipulate and fool the
American public directly.

[AZBlue]

12. Bad policy. Anyone who needs continuous rescuing shouldn't be President.

[CompSciStudent]

14. So why not debate the issue that Obamas health plan leaves out 22 million

And is twice as expensive as Hillary’s. ?
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So the Obama plan would leave more people uninsured than the Clinton plan. How big is the difference?

To answer this question you need to make a detailed analysis of health care decisions. That’s what Jonathan Gruber of M.I.T., one of America’s leading health care economists, does in a new paper.

Mr. Gruber finds that a plan without mandates, broadly resembling the Obama plan, would cover 23 million of those currently uninsured, at a taxpayer cost of $102 billion per year. An otherwise identical plan with mandates would cover 45 million of the uninsured — essentially everyone — at a taxpayer cost of $124 billion. Over all, the Obama-type plan would cost $4,400 per newly insured person, the Clinton-type plan only $2,700.


http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/04/opinion/04krugman.html

"If you combine the economic analysis with these political realities, here’s what I think it says: If Mrs. Clinton gets the Democratic nomination, there is some chance — nobody knows how big — that we’ll get universal health care in the next administration. If Mr. Obama gets the nomination, it just won’t happen"

[FrenchieCat]

16. New York Times working overtime to rescue the victim, I see.....

Bill must be working the phones!

[CompSciStudent]

18. Not NYT, but Jonathan Gruber of M.I.T, one of America’s leading health care economists

To answer this question you need to make a detailed analysis of health care decisions. That’s what Jonathan Gruber of M.I.T., one of America’s leading health care economists, does in a new paper.

Mr. Gruber finds that a plan without mandates, broadly resembling the Obama plan, would cover 23 million of those currently uninsured, at a taxpayer cost of $102 billion per year. An otherwise identical plan with mandates would cover 45 million of the uninsured — essentially everyone — at a taxpayer cost of $124 billion. Over all, the Obama-type plan would cost $4,400 per newly insured person, the Clinton-type plan only $2,700.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/04/opinion/04krugman.html

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[Skwmom]

17. The thing about plans is you have to TRUST the person who

is espousing the campaign rhetoric and with the Clintons track record why in the heck should anyone believe ANYTHING they say.

[SaveOurDemocracy]

21. Better to TRUST someone with NO track record ... right?

[Skwmom]

23. Oh the old, Obama has no experience or no track record.

Of course, you know he does.

Of course Clinton also has a track record, a track record of voting for the bankruptcy bill while telling people how much she cares about their troubles, a track record of sending jobs overseas while she tells people she will fight for their jobs, and on and on.