How important is the Latino vote?

[RockyTorres]

Last time I looked we were the largest minority group in the US and we are going for the most part very pro-Hillary...Does that mean anything?

[ananda]

1. It could mean..

that Latinos are racist and won't vote
for a Black man.

What do you think?

[RockyTorres]

2. I am Latino an I am not, but that is not to say that there are many that

are not. Don't know if I know any that would say that outright, but I am sure it is an issue with many Latino voters...Needless to say the results last night...

[billbuckhead]

3. Hispanics and Asians will keep Obama from being President

The only question is sooner or later!

[RockyTorres]

5. Why do you think that...I am a Hillary supporter but

considering Obama is from the Chicagoland area, which is very heavy Latino populated, he should be able to make some shift and I do not see it happening

[AX10]

4. The elite Obamites are playing the race card yet again.

[NMMNG]

6. Every vote is important

Some people would like to believe otherwise, but don't let them discount you or any other person/group.

[RockyTorres]

7. The question is though, if there are more Latinos now in the US

than Blacks, does that not play way into the hands of Clinton. If the Latinos were more spread out, as the blacks are, how strong could the force be?

[krkaufman]

18. "way" .... it all depends on the degree of support.

And it depends on the overall demographics of the state and district. It will play out however it does, and a winner will be declared.

I'm not familiar enough with recent history to understand why Latinos would prefer her in any significant way more than Obama, but, if that's the case, then, yes, of course that's a roadblock for Obama in the primaries.

[NJSecularist]

8. In the next 16 contests.....

Only 3 states have Hispanic populations over 10% and only 1 state has Hispanic populations over 15%.

[RockyTorres]

9. Duely noted...as I said earlier the Latinos are much more concentrated

and not as spread out around the country as Blacks..

[NJSecularist]

15. Yup

You are right. Texas and California are two states that have heavy Latino populations. New Jersey and New York have moderately high Latino populations.

[comfycouch]

10. The black vote is more important because

While it is true that Latinos are the biggest minority group in the US, that includes illegal AND legal residents who are NOT US citizens, and therefore are inelligible to vote. These non-citizens are a big chunk of the Latino population, which means that not too many Latinos vote compared to blacks.

[RockyTorres]

12. This may be true, but good luck winning a good number

of delegates in Latino Texas....Which is a state with a nice 228 delegates...

[krkaufman]

20. good luck?

What seemed to be genuine curiosity in the Original Post, now seems to be taunting. Bad form.

[krkaufman]

19. That's not the way that Tom Tancredo tells it!!! n/t

[RockyTorres]

22. I guess we'll have to wait and see but Good Luck

[krkaufman]

30. I think you missed my point (which is reasonable...

... since I was being too obscure).

The previous poster had said...

"... that includes illegal AND legal residents who are NOT US citizens, and therefore are inelligible to vote."

You see, Tom Tancredo and the rest of the Right Wing regularly accuse Democrats of promoting voting by by ineligible Latino voters.

[TheDonkey]

11. It's very important. Obama needs to address them or if they want they can vote McCain and rethugs

and then watch what happens to issues they care about.

[RockyTorres]

14. The population is too big, regardless of who they vote for

they are going to have to be heard. Especially if they continue at such growth rates..And that does not mean illegals coming into the country...

[krkaufman]

23. Certainly. Without a question. n/t

[krkaufman]

21. yep. One would think that the last 7 years would have awakened ...

... nearly everyone to the selfishness that is the Conservative being.

[ShadowLiberal]

13. Depends on the state, Obama definitely needs to make some inroads with hispanics though

It depends on the state for how important they are. Right now the only state I think that they could derail him in if he doesn't improve his support among them is Texas.

On the other hand however, when talking about the value of the Latino vote, consider this, blacks are more likely to get out and vote then Hispanics. Out of all the races, Hispanics are the least likely to vote. Part of the reason is because more of them are illegal immigrants then any other race, and thus they can't register to vote. But still, black voters are more reliable in coming out to vote, and more of them are democrats then Hispanics.

[FrenchieCat]

16. The Latino Vote is very important.......

I think that they are voting for someone that they know, and has little to do with Barack's skin color.

However, if they were to look at the issue each support, I'm just not sure why they support a candidate who doesn't want them to be able to drive and get Auto insurance. What is it with that? Do they know Hillary's position on this, and if so, why do they like it?

Obama just needs to be given a little more time.....so that folks know that he's a strong supporters of all civil rights, and he didn't vote for this damn war.


Hillary's record:
Date Bill Title Vote
10/24/2007 Permanent Residence for Certain Undocumented Immigrants Y
10/03/2007 Border Fence and Customs Appropriations Y
07/26/2007 Department of Homeland Security Appropriations Y
07/26/2007 Border Fence and Customs Appropriations Y
06/28/2007 Second Immigration Act of 2007 Y
06/07/2007 Immigration Act of 2007 Y
06/06/2007 Declaring English the National Language N
06/06/2007 Denying Legal Status for Immigrants Convicted of Certain Crimes N
06/06/2007 Point Based Immigration Expiration Date Y
06/06/2007 Law Enforcement Review of Z Visa Applications N
06/06/2007 Five Year Expiration for Guest Worker Program Y
06/06/2007 Barring Immigrants with Certain Criminal Histories Y
06/06/2007 English as the Common Language Y
05/23/2007 Guest Worker Number Reduction Amendment Y
10/31/2006 Secure Fence Act of 2006 Y
07/13/2006 Double-Layered Fencing Amendment N
06/20/2006 Triple-Layered Fencing Amendment Y
05/25/2006 Confidentiality Requirement Amendment N
05/25/2006 Immigration Reform Bill Y
05/24/2006 H-2C Visa Program Ammendment Y
05/23/2006 Orange Card Program Amendment Y
05/23/2006 Employer Verification Amendment Y
05/18/2006 "State Criminal Alien Assistance Program" Amendment Y
05/18/2006 English As National Language Amendment N
05/18/2006 English as Unifying Language Amendment Y
05/17/2006 Employment-based Immigrant Visa Amendment N
http://www.votesmart.org/voting_category.php?can_id=55463&type=category&category=40&go.x=10&go.y=6

Barack's record:

Date Bill Title Vote
10/24/2007 Permanent Residence for Certain Undocumented Immigrants Y
10/03/2007 Border Fence and Customs Appropriations NV
07/26/2007 Department of Homeland Security Appropriations NV
07/26/2007 Border Fence and Customs Appropriations NV
06/28/2007 Second Immigration Act of 2007 Y
06/07/2007 Immigration Act of 2007 Y
06/06/2007 Declaring English the National Language N
06/06/2007 Denying Legal Status for Immigrants Convicted of Certain Crimes N
06/06/2007 Point Based Immigration Expiration Date Y
06/06/2007 Law Enforcement Review of Z Visa Applications N
06/06/2007 Five Year Expiration for Guest Worker Program Y
06/06/2007 Barring Immigrants with Certain Criminal Histories Y
06/06/2007 English as the Common Language Y
05/23/2007 Guest Worker Number Reduction Amendment Y
10/31/2006 Secure Fence Act of 2006 Y
07/13/2006 Double-Layered Fencing Amendment N
06/20/2006 Triple-Layered Fencing Amendment Y
05/25/2006 Confidentiality Requirement Amendment N
05/25/2006 Immigration Reform Bill Y
05/24/2006 H-2C Visa Program Ammendment Y
05/23/2006 Orange Card Program Amendment Y
05/23/2006 Employer Verification Amendment Y
05/18/2006 "State Criminal Alien Assistance Program" Amendment Y
05/18/2006 English As National Language Amendment N
05/18/2006 English as Unifying Language Amendment Y
05/17/2006 Employment-based Immigrant Visa Amendment N
http://votesmart.org/voting_category.php?can_id=9490&type=category&category=40&go.x=12&go.y=7

[RockyTorres]

17. Do realiza that not all Latinos are Illegal...

The majority that vote and have voted so far are not even first generation, they are second and they are still carrying the vote

[FrenchieCat]

24. What does that have to do with it? I'm legal, but that doesn't mean

that I would want folks of my same country to be driving around against the law without auto insurance. How would that make sense. :shrug:

[RockyTorres]

26. I am saying that her vote on licenses and auto insurance do not

effect all Latinos and will probably have little to do with their vote...As we already saw happen

[FrenchieCat]

25. And many Latinos are Catholic. So why would they like Bill so much?

who cheats on his wife and lie about it?

That's why I thought a lot of Latinos went and voted for Bush in 2000. The intergrity issue.:shrug:

[RockyTorres]

27. And don't forget that in the Latino culture...especially in the

older generations infidelity is accepted. The majority of the Latino support for Bush came from Cubans in Miami and Mexicans that backed Bush because his sister-in-law is Mexican

[bridgit]

28. The Latino vote is very important...

:hi: :patriot:

[RockyTorres]

29. 100 % AGREED!!!

[krkaufman]

31. (I'd be surprised to find anyone would would disagree.) n/t