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[surfermaw]

Coming from the right wing media hour after hour during news time has brainwashed the nation especially some of the little kids proof

I am a staunch republican area controlled by republicans for 40 or more years, yesterday I saw a vote by children from the 4th through 6 th grade who in years have voted strongly republican, today I saw 3/4 of those kids vote Obama...Media Hype has brainwashed these kid and half of the nation...

[jakem]

1. brainwashed them away from being republican?

:wtf:

[cali]

2. What would you say to me, maw?

I don't have TV. I don't listen to trash radio or read the trash press. I decided on Obama after researching his record and history. There are millions like me. And there are millions who are voting for Hillary because they like her husbands.

[Occam Bandage]

3. Wait, you're actually seriously complaining that the next generation of voters

is being turned on to liberalism?

[MADem]

He's not a "liberal" though. He's not a Republican, but he's no "liberal."

Look at his health care plan. Look at his accomodations to the coal and nuclear power industry.

Let's not be sloppy with our terminology, here.

[Occam Bandage]

9. He's a liberal. So is Clinton. Get over it.

[MADem]

12. No, he isn't. And neither is she, though she's slightly to his left. NT

[Occam Bandage]

15. National Journal claimed he's the *most* liberal in '07. And frankly, if you claim neither are,

your scale is not useful for American politics.

[MADem]

21. National Journal is a rightwing RAG. Dennis Kucinich is a liberal.

Bernie Sanders is a liberal. Paul Wellstone was a liberal. Ted Kennedy is a liberal, but he's a conventional old PIKER compared to the preceding three.

Clinton and Obama are moderates.

Your scale isn't useful for 'reality,' and your sources are questionable, at best.

Why not just go straight for the strength, and quote Rush Limbaugh? He'd say they're "liberals" too.

Pay no attention to that claim that NJ/Atlantic make, that they are "non-partisan." If they're non-partisan, Bush is a Green Party member.

Some light reading:

http://www.time-blog.com/swampland/2008/02/what_the_national_journal_libe.html

February 1, 2008 11:43
What the National Journal “Liberal” Ranking Really Means

On Thursday afternoon, political reporters across the country received a gushing email from the Republican National Committee, with a big picture of Barack Obama next to the words “Obama: Most Liberal Senator In 2007.” It was a reference to the National Journal, Washington’s big-deal political trade magazine, which released its annual bipolar rankings of the Senate. The results: Hillary Clinton was the 16th most liberal member of the Senate. Barack Obama was #1.

...So there you have it. Obama is more liberal than Clinton because he voted with John McCain, the most likely Republican nominee, and Tom Coburn, one of the Senate's most conservative members. Ain’t political rankings a wonderful thing.




Here's some MORE for your plate: http://mediamatters.org/items/200802060001?f=s_search

National Journal Email Compares Obama to Kerry, Ignores Flawed Methodology & McCain's Lack of Rating

Washington, D.C. -- Conservative pundits have a new talking point courtesy of the National Journal's new claim that Sen. Barack Obama (D-IL) is the Senate's "most liberal" member. But there's more to the story than the talking heads would have the American people think.

In an email, the National Journal Group encouraged subscribers to read the magazine's Senate ratings, stating: "We expect this story will have immediate traction in the media and blogosphere and at watercoolers around the country. In 2004, President Bush invoked Senator John Kerry's liberal Vote Ratings score repeatedly on the campaign trail and at their head-to-head debates."

The email did not mention that the National Journal has acknowledged the methodology it used to produce its "most liberal" rating for Kerry was flawed.

"It seems the National Journal is more interested in becoming part of a campaign's talking points than honestly and accurately assessing the votes of United States senators," said Karl Frisch, a Media Matters for America spokesman. "Failing to disclose previous flaws in its rating system is irresponsible. The National Journal should focus on reporting the facts, instead of spinning for attention."

ALWAYS "consider the source." NJ is a piece of shit.

It is a beautifully polished, chocolate coated piece of shit, but at the end of the day, it is a piece of GOP shit.

It never ceases to amaze me how often I see this kind of thing here at DU, where the bullshit put out by the opposing team is used--rather portentiously, too--to justify an absurd position. If it isn't NJ, it's TNR. If it's not Drudge, it's Rush.

If anyone's "off the scale" there, it's YOU, not me.

But then, you're getting your information from these rightwing idiots, and you are passing it along with absolutely NO IRONY. Consequently, your error, though grievous, is unsurprising.

[Renew Deal]

6. The kids have a republican voting history?

Kids don't vote. Generally kids support the president.

Having kids get excited about a Democrat is a great thing.

[Unsane]

4. This is bad why?

[Renew Deal]

5. If Obama is brainwashing republican kids, he's the best choice

:rofl:

[dchill]

11. Eggs Ackley!

:)

[jefferson_dem]

7. surfermaw thinks voters aren't allowed to be inspired by Democratic candidates any more.

She's a hope squasher.

Booooo to you!

[Blue-Jay]

8. You should start a thread about it.

[Adelante]

10. OMG they voted Obama instead of Republican

Get a switch to their little back sides. Get them back in line.

[KittyWampus]

13. Marsha, Marsha, Marsha

[realFedUp]

14. I think Hillary will get more Republican votes also if she's the nominee

Stands to reason that our nominee will get more
crossover votes this year if McCain is their
nominee

[Windy]

20. the idea that there will be republican cross over for Clinton is ridiculous.

They hate her (while based on unfounded reasons really) a hell of a lot more than they dislike McCain.

I know a lot of repubs (in my own family) who will just stay home if McCain gets the nod. They certainly will not vote for and this is in their terms, not mine, "the evil bitch" under any circumstances.

Not going to happen.

[Tennessee Gal]

16. The OP's point is the reason they are voting the way they are.

These are children who do not have the capacity to understand policies and backgrounds. They are easily influenced.

It is a valid point.

Something we should all think about.

[Occam Bandage]

17. But yet exit polling shows that those with college degrees and postgrad degrees are the

most likely to vote for Obama.

[Thrill]

18. Brainwashed? Maybe its just more evidence of the dislike people have for Hillary

Especially among Independents and moderate Republicans.

More evidence that she can't win a GE

[Island Blue]

19. You want the kids to vote Republican?

Well alrighty then. These are odd times indeed.