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Alhena Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 11:23 AM
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I support Obama, but I won't mind superdelegates deciding the race
if that's what happens, simply because those were the rules going into the contest. I would support changing the rules for next election, but in any contest you abide by the rules which are established at the outset.

Having said that, I will go absolutely ballistic if the Michigan or Florida delegates are seated. For the same reason- the stated rules at the start of the contest were that Florida and Michigan didn't count and Obama campaigned accordingly and it would be outrageous to change those rules now.

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LakeSamish706 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 11:28 AM
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1. I agree completely with the Michigan/Florida delegates not being seated...
Not sure how I feel about Super delegates getting to call the nominee though.... I realize that is how the Dems have set it up, but to me that sucks. If that happens it was pointless in having Primaries in the first place.
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Benhurst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 11:55 AM
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4. Not pointless, since a candidate may still manage to get majority support.
Edited on Thu Feb-07-08 11:57 AM by Benhurst
If neither is able to do so, then that signifies a serious problem for the party in the general election to come.

The super delegates choosing between them would certainly alienate those in the losing faction. And face it, if it comes to that, both candidates were rejected by the majority of those voting.

The only decision I can see the Super delegates making which could reunite the party would be going for a third party, one both Clinton and Obama could support.
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mrJJ Donating Member (657 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 11:38 AM
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2. The End of the Party
Major problem... a once in a life time chance for either of the candidates to be the FIRST.

First President of Color whoose supporters mandate that their candidate tries to change the way politics are played in our USA

First Female President of an ex impeached President ... sorry couldnt help myself

No ones going to give ... This MUST be won outright in the primary.

But will the superdelegates at the convention decide to subvert the efforts of the movement for change? I have a feeling the fix is already in.

I submit that Billary 08 will cajole or pigeon hole his former party member underlings to "follow your old leader". Loyalty to the party must trump the mandate for change. Besides new and fresh ideas are bad, scarry... The old ways are the best, stay with what we have. Paranoid? Conspiracy? No... If Sen Obama's supporters thinks he was not given a fair playing field to compete on.. these will be some of the talking points.

When that happens.... and I submit that it will. All bets will be off. Does anyone think that these newley registered and independent voters are card carrying "My democratic party right or wrong.. follow me" types? Sen Obama being a Party loyalist will make the plea to his followers to unite behind Billary 08... my guess is that few will follow...
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Unsane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 11:40 AM
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3. You wouldn't mind that? WTF
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Alhena Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 11:58 AM
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5. I wouldn't like it, but rules are rules
and Obama has a chance to convince each superdelegate to change his or her mind.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 11:59 AM
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6. I mind superdelegates.
It's another way power can be misused.
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 12:00 PM
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7. Me too. Considering their support can be obtained by $$ and promises...
I'd rather let the people choose.
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