Hillary's campaign tries to explain lower fund-raising by claiming MoveOn contributed to Obama's

[ProSense]

2/7/2008

Super Tuesday Victory Generates More than $4 Million Online in Single Day

The Clinton campaign today announced that it raised more than $4 million online in the day after polls closed on Super Tuesday. It was Hillary’s biggest single day of contributions since the campaign’s launch.

The campaign had set a goal of raising $3 million in three days -- and exceeded its target in less than 24 hours. The new goal is $6 million in 72 hours.

"We are gratified for this tremendous outpouring of support," said Clinton Campaign Internet Director Peter Daou. "From over a million volunteer hours to millions of dollars in contributions from thousands of online donors across the country, Sen. Clinton's grassroots support is a key part of her campaign's success."

In the past 48 hours, more than 35,000 donors have contributed to the campaign, helping Hillary keep pace with the combined fundraising power of Sen. Obama’s campaign, MoveOn, and Sen. Kerry’s 3 million person email list - to which Sen. Obama now has access.

It doesn't mention that the money raised is going toward repaying Hillary's loan to her campaign.

On edit: these numbers still smell like spin (note the caveat here). No one heard about any fund-raising appeal or anything until today.

None Of Obama's $7 Million Came From MoveOn

A spokesperson for MoveOn, which is backing Obama, just confirmed to me that none of the more than $7 million that the Obama campaign has raised since Super Tuesday came from the group's fundraising efforts.

"The numbers announced by the Obama campaign don't include any fundraising MoveOn has done on their behalf," MoveOn communications director Ilyse Hogue says.

This appears to put a crimp in the Hillary campaign's argument -- in terms of this $7 million, at least -- that their lag in fundraising is partly due to the fact that they're not just up against the Obama camp, but MoveOn as well.

MoveOn is in fact in the midst of a fundraising drive for Obama, and the group tells me that they'll be releasing the totals raised for him this afternoon -- which means still more money flowing Obama's way today. So in the broader sense, Camp Hillary is right -- they are up against Obama and MoveOn, but given that these numbers are broken out separately, it's hard to see how this can be used to explain away her lower numbers.

We'll keep you posted on those MoveOn totals when we get them.

[tishaLA]

1. So the Clinton campaign lied?

Knock me over with a feather.

[rodeodance]

5. IP is misleading or has reading comprehension skills-read the IP

[tishaLA]

11. I read it. The clinton camp claimed that MoveOn

had something to do with Sen Obama's superior fundraising, but MoveOn says it had nothing to do with it.

[rodeodance]

18. my point is that OP use the word 'contributed" as if they bellied up the $$. it is

misleading and I see it as flame bait. enough said.

[rinsd]

20. Where did they claim that?

"In the past 48 hours, more than 35,000 donors have contributed to the campaign, helping Hillary keep pace with the combined fundraising power of Sen. Obama’s campaign, MoveOn, and Sen. Kerry’s 3 million person email list - to which Sen. Obama now has access."

MoveOn is running a fundraiser for Obama as we speak.

Kerry has given Obama his mail list

And Obama has done great on his own.

Hillary never mentions Obama's recent haul only thanking her supporters for their contributions to keep pace.

[tishaLA]

23. There was no MoveOn fundraising "power"

until today. Not in "the last 48 hours." Today.

[rinsd]

25. Um the last 48 hours refers to her donors not MoveOn.

"In the past 48 hours, more than 35,000 donors have contributed to the campaign,"

Ignorance, willful or otherwise.

[tishaLA]

28. Oh, so the 48 hours only refers to Sen Clinton

and not to Sen Obama's campaign numbers, too? That would make the sentence absolutely nonsensical.

Ignorance, willful or otherwise.

[rinsd]

31. Do you see her mention Obama's numbers?

Is reading comprehension difficult for you?

"In the past 48 hours, more than 35,000 donors have contributed to the campaign, helping Hillary keep pace with the combined fundraising power of Sen. Obama’s campaign, MoveOn, and Sen. Kerry’s 3 million person email list - to which Sen. Obama now has access."

Comma - Grammar. A punctuation mark (,) used to indicate a separation of ideas or of elements within the structure of a sentence.

[tishaLA]

33. yeah, as i said, it would be nonsensical

to read it your way. but have it as you will.

[papau]

2. Enjoy the fund raising win and the next few weeks likely election/caucus wins - then its 3/4

[ursi]

3. Poor Hillary, praises her gains and ruins it by taking the low road

Both of these candidates cannot fall below the high road in how they handle things right now. Either one of them could win the nom at this point. Dignity will work in their favors.

[rodeodance]

27. seems to me that it is the IP that hit the low road-using the term 'contributing"

[Renew Deal]

4. .

Move on is asking for money

https://pol.moveon.org/give/supertue.html?rc=homepage

[rodeodance]

7. IP--uses the word 'contributed'-

In the past 48 hours, more than 35,000 donors have contributed to the campaign, helping Hillary keep pace with the combined fundraising power of Sen. Obama’s campaign, MoveOn, and Sen. Kerry’s 3 million person email list - to which Sen. Obama now has access.

[rinsd]

10. MoveOn is doing for a fundraiser for Obama as we speak.

"MoveOn is in fact in the midst of a fundraising drive for Obama, and the group tells me that they'll be releasing the totals raised for him this afternoon -- which means still more money flowing Obama's way today. So in the broader sense, Camp Hillary is right -- they are up against Obama and MoveOn, but given that these numbers are broken out separately, it's hard to see how this can be used to explain away her lower numbers."

Hillary did not claim that MoveOn was part of Obama's haul but they they were part of what she is up against. She was thanking supporters for helping her keep pace by raising $3M and giving them a new goal of $6M.

This is a bunch of horseshit started by a bored Gary Sargeant

[Renew Deal]

13. You're right!

https://pol.moveon.org/give/supertue.html?rc=homepage

[tishaLA]

14. Did you notice the past tense--"encouraged"?

What they are doing now says nothing about how Sen Obama got such superior numbers post-Super Tuesday.

[ProSense]

15. No MoveOn money is in the $7.2 million raised by Obama's campaign. n/t

[rinsd]

17. No one claimed it was.

Hillary is speaking about what she is up against which includes Obama, his newly aquired mailing list from Kerry & MoveOn who is running a fundraiser as we speak

What a shock that you would twist information :eyes:

[sandnsea]

19. "combined fundraising power"

It implies that it is. It's very cultish to deny what's right in front of your face.

[tishaLA]

29. This means that $7.59 Million figure is gonna skyrocket!

Can't wait til those numbers come in! WooHoo!

[rinsd]

6. Where did the Clinton campaign claim the $7M was partially from MoveOn

"So in the broader sense, Camp Hillary is right -- they are up against Obama and MoveOn,"

[blogslut]

16. From the statement cited in the OP

"In the past 48 hours, more than 35,000 donors have contributed to the campaign, helping Hillary keep pace with the combined fundraising power of Sen. Obama’s campaign, MoveOn, and Sen. Kerry’s 3 million person email list - to which Sen. Obama now has access."

All I did was go to barackobama.com and click the Donate button. I prefer to donate directly. Looks like a few million folks preferred it too. :)

[rodeodance]

21. IP is flame bait---uses the word contributed in subject line---

[blogslut]

26. What is IP?

I mean, I know that IP stands for Internet Protocol, but in this site, this context, what does it mean? I thought it was OP?

And I don't see what the problem is. He cited a statement from the Clinton campaign site. How is that flame bait?

[Adelante]

30. I think IP is usage from another site

I've only noticed it recently here used in place of OP. I don't know what it means, either. Maybe Introductory Post or Initial Post or something like it.

[blogslut]

32. cool, thanks

Just never saw it before. I want to keep up, ya know. :hi:

[rodeodance]

36. "initial post" --as in the first one.

[MADem]

8. That loan will likely NEVER be repaid. It has to be a loan for accounting reasons.

Nice try, though.

[rodeodance]

9. "MoveOn is in fact in the midst of a fundraising drive for Obama,"

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Hillary's campaign tries to explain lower fund-raising by claiming MoveOn contributed to Obama's

Edited on Thu Feb-07-08 11:09 AM by ProSense
2/7/2008
Super Tuesday Victory Generates More than $4 Million Online in Single Day
The Clinton campaign today announced that it raised more than $4 million online in the day after polls closed on Super Tuesday. It was Hillary’s biggest single day of contributions since the campaign’s launch.

The campaign had set a goal of raising $3 million in three days -- and exceeded its target in less than 24 hours. The new goal is $6 million in 72 hours.

"We are gratified for this tremendous outpouring of support," said Clinton Campaign Internet Director Peter Daou. "From over a million volunteer hours to millions of dollars in contributions from thousands of online donors across the country, Sen. Clinton's grassroots support is a key part of her campaign's success."

In the past 48 hours, more than 35,000 donors have contributed to the campaign, helping Hillary keep pace with the combined fundraising power of Sen. Obama’s campaign, MoveOn, and Sen. Kerry’s 3 million person email list - to which Sen. Obama now has access.

It doesn't mention that the money raised is going toward repaying Hillary's loan to her campaign.

On edit: these numbers still smell like spin (note the caveat here). No one heard about any fund-raising appeal or anything until today.

None Of Obama's $7 Million Came From MoveOn
A spokesperson for MoveOn, which is backing Obama, just confirmed to me that none of the more than $7 million that the Obama campaign has raised since Super Tuesday came from the group's fundraising efforts.

"The numbers announced by the Obama campaign don't include any fundraising MoveOn has done on their behalf," MoveOn communications director Ilyse Hogue says.

This appears to put a crimp in the Hillary campaign's argument -- in terms of this $7 million, at least -- that their lag in fundraising is partly due to the fact that they're not just up against the Obama camp, but MoveOn as well.

MoveOn is in fact in the midst of a fundraising drive for Obama, and the group tells me that they'll be releasing the totals raised for him this afternoon -- which means still more money flowing Obama's way today. So in the broader sense, Camp Hillary is right -- they are up against Obama and MoveOn, but given that these numbers are broken out separately, it's hard to see how this can be used to explain away her lower numbers.

We'll keep you posted on those MoveOn totals when we get them.





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[ProSense]

12. Damn, are you that desperate to cut and paste the entire OP in a response?

Weird!

[rodeodance]

22. you do know why i did that don't you

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[jillan]

34. MoveOn is helping Obama raise the money - they have sent emails out to all of their supporters.

https://pol.moveon.org/give/supertue.html?rc=homepage