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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 12:19 PM
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Poll question: Who will be our strongest nominee vs. McCain--Obama or Clinton?
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Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 12:21 PM
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1. Obama. And it's closer to a fact than an opinion. Lots of data to back it up, I think.
No, I don't have the links and I don't think Clinton fans even want to ask me for them, because I suspect it would soon become a deluge of statistics that overwhelmingly show that he is a better matchup.

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Tarc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 12:25 PM
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3. Would this be the same data that tried to hand California to Obama?
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 12:25 PM
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4. Agree. McCain vs. Clinton means that:
1. Independent voters will trend largely towards McCain
2. Republicans will have something to vote for, or rather against in Hillary

1 + 2 = 3rd consecutive Republican presidential term.
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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 12:27 PM
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6. oh please -- give us the *deluge of stats*
We'll wait. :rofl:
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Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 12:31 PM
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9. Better yet, I'll grab them and I'll start a thread on them. Please look for it.
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Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 01:09 PM
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13. Shall I give you the link to the thread I started. The deluge is coming.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 12:23 PM
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2. They would both beat The Fossil. But Hillary would make it a closer contest.
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Red Zelda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 12:26 PM
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5. Hillary could not win one red state
Obama puts some in play, even MS. Hillary would lose ME, PA, NH, WI and maybe NM.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 12:28 PM
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7. Do You Have Any Empirical Information To Support Your Assertion Or Did You Make It Up On The Fly?
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 12:30 PM
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8. The entire Clinton career as well as their slavish devotion to a losing 50+1 Strategy
no one has to make that up.


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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 12:34 PM
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10. Bill Clinton Carried Nearly Forty States In 92 And 96...Try Again
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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 12:35 PM
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11. true, and I'm not saying that HRC couldn't win, but Clinton also had help in both cases by
Ross Perot.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 12:41 PM
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12. I Have To Go To Lunch But If Perot Helped Bush Pere And Dole It Was Marginal
I can't find the citation in such a short time..
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Red Zelda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 02:55 PM
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15. So, it is Bill that's running
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Red Zelda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 02:58 PM
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16. Do you capitalize everything?
Yeah, I guess Hillary would win every state. Whatsamatter with me anyway? Everybody loves Hillary. She has so much experience, like her last win in her home state of NY against ... oh, damn, I forgot.
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Kokonoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 01:32 PM
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14. This poll should be limited to anyone over 62
and Dole supporters to get a grip on how important voters feel.
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loveangelc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 03:01 PM
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17. Obama. All the polls show it (even ones with him losing to hilllary) and rush limbuagh i hear
is resorting to holding a fundraiser so that republicans can win in nov.

plus, republicans according to an analyst on nbc, may consider running a conservative party candidate if obama is the nominee (not if hillary is).

there's really no question obama would be a better choice imo.
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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 03:13 PM
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18. Either one can beat McAnus - but I think Obama will be a surer thing
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 03:15 PM
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19. Obama. I think he's the better candidate. Better speaker, and he doesn't come into it
with half the country already hating his guts.

Either one can win- I just think Hillary will have a tougher time of it.
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BringBigDogBack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 04:53 PM
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20. Obama.
No question.
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