Clinton or Obama: No universal health care from either

[mudesi]

I hate to break it to both camps, but Kucinich was the only one who actually called for true, single payer, government funded, universal health care. Neither Clinton nor Obama is going to implement any kind of real universal health care - The kind that every single wealthy and civilized nation in the world has.

And we all know for sure that McCain isn't going to do it.

So universal health care in the United States of America is once again a lost cause. I guess it's going to have to wait 8 more years, when hopefully Democrats will wake up and support the liberal in the primary season instead of allowing the media and the corporations to do it for them.

8 more years. How many people are going to die?

[Buzz Clik]

1. You are correct. As long as health insurance companies are involved, it will be as it is today.

[Araxen]

2. Both plans are bad

You need to get rid of the for-profit companies and make healthcare non-profit in the US. Till that happens healthcare will always be at the mercy of the all mighty $$$$$$$.

[sandnsea]

4. If you have NO health insurance

a subsidy that will seriously help you buy insurance is a gift from heaven.

[harun]

7. Even if you can buy insurance it doesn't mean the insurance

company is going to pay. Sure you can take them to court but how you going to do that when you are sick.

[sandnsea]

9. If it's regulated it will

This isn't a complete solution, but again, people who have nothing can't keep waiting for the country to come around to single payer.

"Barack Obama will prevent companies from abusing their monopoly power through unjustified price increases. His plan will force insurers to pay out a reasonable share of their premiums for patient care instead of keeping exorbitant amounts for profits and administration. His new National Health Exchange will help increase competition by insurers."

[harun]

10. I'm with you on that. Right now it is a for profit free for all of corruption

I think Obama will take things in the right direction, for certain.

[sandnsea]

3. Real subsidized premiums

will have to be the step between what we have and single payer. We should have been fighting for it for years. Then we'd be ready to go to single payer today instead of still bickering while people are dying.

[joshcryer]

5. This is untrue, the government health insurer, if it gets the majority of people chosing it...

...as it probably would under a mandate, would essentially resemble single payer.

However, it is true that neither of them support all Americans, only American Citizens. That leaves out 17 million hard working Latinos.

[Bluerthanblue]

6. this is an honest statement- and

I'm fairly sure I won't last till there is any national health care.

peace~

[harun]

8. We've been trying since the 40's actually to get this implemented

Every other country has worked out a system but us.

[gateley]

11. I agree that until the insurance companies are out of the picture, we're a long

way from where we want to be.

I really liked Dennis's plan.

[Vincardog]

12. Excuse me but Congress creates the laws. It is not up to the President. We have to elect Progressive

Populist Congress and Senators. They should pass the Universal Single payer health care and send it to the president. HRC is going to stand in the way of the changes we have to make. Barack is not saying what he plans to do. I want to think the best but our efforts should be in throwing every DLC DINO out of our party and gaining a veto proof majority in both the house and senate.

[bvar22]

13. America ALREADY has Single Payer HealthCare!

It merely needs to be expanded to cover ALL Americans.

There is NO NEED to invent a NEW system (as Obama insists).
Simply expand MediCare.

Subsidizing the "For Profit" Health Insurance Industry is a step in the WRONG direction!
Codifying and Legitimizing the "For Profit" Industry will make it HARDER to implement a true Single Payer system as the entrenched parasites dig deeper into the system.

65 percent (of ALL Americans, Democrats AND Republicans) say the government should guarantee health insurance for everyone -- even if it means raising taxes.

http://alternet.org/story/29788/

65% of ALL Americans support single payer, and yet NEITHER Political Party has the will to go for it!......because WHY?
Obama and Hillary try to tell you that its just too hard!...BULLSHIT!
Every other developed country in the WORLD can do it....but it is just too hard for AMERICA?


Something is BAD WRONG with our democracy, and NEITHER ONE of our "champions" (Obama or Hillary) intends to do a damn thing about it!



The Democratic Party is a BIG TENT, but there is NO ROOM for those
who advance the agenda of THE RICH (Corporate Owners) at the EXPENSE of LABOR and the POOR.

[Araxen]

14. Yup

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