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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 04:38 PM
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Chutzpah on steroids: HRC "we are borrowing too much money and need to return to fiscal resp."
On MSNBC at her event at a VA school
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tishaLA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 04:38 PM
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1. LOL!
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 04:39 PM
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2. ....no....must.... not ...comment......
heheh
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 04:41 PM
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4. oh go ahead you know that you are going to eventually anyway lol
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 04:45 PM
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14. trying not to laugh too hard....
it's gonna scare the puppy next to me....
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 04:39 PM
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3. Sounds like a great idea to me
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shaniqua6392 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 04:41 PM
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5. Me too.
Why would anyone criticize her for wanting that? Some people just boggle the mind.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 04:43 PM
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8. you don't see the irony given the fact that she outspent contributions
in January by 40%. How is that practicing fiscal responsibility?
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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 04:43 PM
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11. links?
we'll wait.

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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 04:51 PM
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24. lol she just said it at the speech are you actually challenging the
fact that she was not calling for better fiscal discipline in the country?
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 04:47 PM
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18. So Obama outspending contributions by a 2 to 1 margin in the 4th Q was good
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 04:52 PM
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25. If he had saved money in the 1st 2nd and 3rd so that he had
money in the 4th I would say that was pretty strategic.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 04:47 PM
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19. A campaign is a tad different than the FEDERAL Government.
Damn. This idiotic nit picking makes you look very foolish.
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tishaLA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 04:43 PM
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10. it's in the context of her own campaign needing to borrow money
and living beyond its means. I don't think anyone could be against that as a political policy.
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 04:42 PM
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6. Oh no she di-unt.
Gawd.
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 04:42 PM
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7. Not really.
Look at what Big Dog achieved. I'm sure Hillary can do the same.
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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 04:43 PM
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9. why is this chutzpah? She's saying the right thing
Oh wait -- it's not chutzpah when Obama says it. I get it. :eyes:
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 04:45 PM
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16. its chutzpah to make comments about over spending and
borrowing too much for the country when your own campaign is in fact over spending and borrowing. If Obama was overspending and borrowing and then made a major point of the speech about overspending and borrowing that would be chutzpah.
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woolldog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 04:44 PM
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12. *bites tongue*
ouch!
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DUyellow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 04:44 PM
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13. LOL
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 04:46 PM
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17. What's so funny about that? Tell me. n/t
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 04:49 PM
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21. because she is giving advice about not overspending and borrowing
when her campaign admitted that in Jan they had overspent their campaign expenses and had to borrow.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 05:14 PM
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29. and as I said in another post...comparing a campaign to the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT
is like comparing apples and oranges. How stupid.
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DUyellow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 04:50 PM
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22. says one thing, and does another
Through the course of the primary, Penn's consulting firm, Penn, Schoen & Berland Associates, has been paid more than $4.3 million by the Clinton campaign, according to a review of campaign finance filings.

That total, compiled by the Center for Responsive Politics, includes receipts for tasks ranging from polling and consulting to mail expenses and even photography. It does not include the $1.5 million the Clinton campaign is in debt to the firm.

so even with the 6.4m - 5m - 1.5m = -.1

What else do we not know about?
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 04:45 PM
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15. She also said "every baby born today, is born with $30,000 debt because it's like we have
what looks like one big, giant charge card."

The Clinton administration did have a projected surplus which has now GONE and turned into a $9 TRILLION debt. I don't find any of this funny. It's sickening what this administration has done.
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 04:48 PM
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20. Ok - let me preface this by saying - I am not being mean, but this is funny:
I love Jon Stewart, Stephen Colbert, South Park, Family Guy, American Dad, The Simpsons- I appreciate people making funny of situations - I laughed when Colbert makes fun of Dems.

So that said, I nearly peed my pants on this one:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-rees/breaking-clintons-eco_b_85409.html

BREAKING -- Clinton's Economic Stimulus Package

BREAKING-- BREAKING-- MUST ATTRIBUTE-- SIREN PICTURE-- SIREN PICTURE-- THE SIREN IS SPINNING 'ROUND AND 'ROUND--

Hey gang... just off the phone with a TOP CLINTON STRATEGIST... I've got the details on Hillary Clinton's new economic stimulus package... designed to help those hit hardest by the recent economic downturn... the unexpected choppy waters we find ourselves in...

It's a specific plan, not like Obama's "let's all hold hands and reach for the stars, which we can't even grab because we're all tangled up in each others' hands..."

Here it is:

IF YOU'RE JUST SCRAPING BY AT YOUR JOB, HILLARY CLINTON WILL GIVE YOU FIVE MILLION DOLLARS, CASH. . . PROVIDED YOUR JOB INVOLVES RUNNING FOR THE DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENTIAL NOMINATION.

(OFFER NOT VALID FOR BARACK OBAMA.)

The funds are limited, so you'd better start gathering petition signatures now! I'm throwing my hat in the ring and running as "Ron Paul 3000," the hot new version of Ron Paul... look for my virtual rally in Second Life... please come dressed like a warlock... my campaign needs warlocks... we're caucusing in World of Warcraft, too... meet me under the Skull-Bridge of N'thrungore... I'll be playing the zither and singing about Ayn Rand...

I bet Barack Obama wishes he had the (intellectual) funds and (selfless) boldness to propose such an audacious stimulus package! Hillary Clinton has just earned her stripes as an economic-package-stimulator of the highest order!!! Her plan puts real money in the hands of real people who need it real bad.

What's Obama's plan? More of the same old platitudes? "Ooh, look at this YouTube video of a bunch of young people singing some hippie-style rap song where they couldn't even afford to film it in color?" Last time I checked, that didn't add up to FIVE MILLION DOLLARS CASH. NEXT!

Contrast Obama's empty rhetoric with Clinton's PROVEN ABILITY to provide MASSIVE INJECTIONS OF CASH to those who need it most! She's so modest, she didn't even brag about it at the time! Most politicians would have called a big press conference on the porch of their mansion and been all like, "Look at me! I'm giving away millions of dollars to a woman in need! Let's all go to Kazakhstan to celebrate how great I am!"

But not Hillary Clinton! It's the classic dynamic: Specific versus vague; proven versus untested; tested versus unproven.

(And by the way, don't tell me to go to Obama's web site and read his positions and plans for myself... I want to know his specific policies, not read a bunch of words and sentences and download PDF files and whatnot... Give me a break... like the old saying goes, "You can lead David Rees to some information, but you can't make him read it, it's not like the guy's a TOTAL NERD.")


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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 04:50 PM
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23. I don't get it.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 04:54 PM
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27. pls see post #21
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jmg257 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 04:53 PM
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26. Ha! Hmmm...depends on what the definition of "we" is...
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 05:11 PM
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28. lol
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