The majority of Americans supported the Iraq war once upon a time

[Proud2BAmurkin]

A candidate who supported the IWR and changed their mind is in a better position than one who is "anti-war"

Most people supported it before they were against it, it's a fact. They don't care if a candidate supported the IWR and they aren't going to give points to the candidate who says he opposed it "from the beginning" (even though he didn't)

They are more likely to give points to a candidate who supported the IWR and says it's time to get out because that's exactly where most voters are themselves and where they were before.

McCain's national security baiting will destroy a candidate who never talks about terrorism except lip service and is favored by the "anti war" left.

[mckeown1128]

1. Don't pretend like there weren't millions of people that

saw that this war was wrong from the begining.

[Proud2BAmurkin]

4. Most people did when it looked like a two week deal

[hisownpetard]

6. I love short little wars, myself. So much fun to follow!

[cali]

10. I hate to break it you, murkybrain

but most Americans wish like hell they never had supported it, and they're likely to admire the judgment of someone who had the foresight to know how fucking stupid it was to get into such a cluster fuck. duh. Do you ever actually think? Can you think? Are you impaired? Never mind, it's clear you are.

[Proud2BAmurkin]

23. Actually the reason they supported it then is because it reflected better judgement given what

they were told about the intelligence which was a lie

[cali]

28. Wrong. Even I knew it was bullshit.

There was a mass of evidence that the intelligence was not on the up and up. Sad that you're both dim and totally uneducated. moronic, actually.

[roguevalley]

2. I find that odd to hear even still. I don't know, then and now anyone

who supported the war.

[Vincardog]

3. Good luck spreading that BS.

[Proud2BAmurkin]

5. Clinton beat Obama among primary voting Democrats on national security and "Iraq"

[Vincardog]

27. Was that a clean sweep? What about 8 of those states? Who said why the DLC won where they did?

Do you have some insight that is denied to the rest of us?

[Redstone]

7. Stretching, stretching, stretching, to make some kind of point. Even if there's no point.

You're wearing us out with your endless barrage of posts, did you know that? Did you also know that for all of your endless posting, you're NOT getting any Obama supporters to change their minds?

Did you know that, if anything, you're turning people AGAINST your candidate, because people are sick and tired of you spamming this board, posting over and over and OVER again with every little thought that percolates in your mind?

Just a friendly reminder.

Redstone

[THUNDER HANDS]

8. this is still DU, right?

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

9. And all those people are unfit to be President.

Pretty simple.

[no name no slogan]

11. Most people also thought the earth was flat once, too

that doesn't make them right, either.

[mckeown1128]

12. so your saying it is ok that she voted for this war because...

two thrids of the american people were "tricked" also. I would rather a leader with the judgment to do the right thing even when it doesn't poll well.

[Proud2BAmurkin]

19. I always thought it was ok Clinton, Kerry, Edwards voted for the IWR. Obama would have too

[mckeown1128]

30. You are speculating. The facts are that he spoke out

against the war. Clinton, Kerry, and Edwards voted and spoke in favor of the war. I don't hold it against Edwards or Kerry as much because they have apologized for it. Clinton refuses to say it was a mistake. She makes excuses.

[HCE SuiGeneris]

13. The Majority Of DU'ers Support TSing Your Ass

as you post a preponderance of bullshit.

[dionysus]

14. "A candidate who supported the IWR and changed their mind"

you just pwned yourself... she won't apologize...
next?

when you lie in your first sentence well... :rofl:

[Proud2BAmurkin]

21. she says "if I knew then" but does not apologize

[Bluerthanblue]

15. there is absolutely NO TRUTH to your post- and you cannot

prove it.

I contend that the majority- the VAST majority of Americans were AGAINST any war with Iraq-

Our voices were silenced- Marginalized (in "free speech zones") and completely ignored.

Your title is not fact.

It is your opinion. And I've learned your opinions don't line up with reality oftentimes.

peace~

[Proud2BAmurkin]

22. research the issue and you will see that is not correct

[Bluerthanblue]

26. no- You made the assertion- defend it- or retract it.

There was a day on DU when people were expected to post legit. links with their statements.

Can you do this?

[JackRiddler]

16. Kill them first, then apologize.

[whatchamacallit]

17. And I thought my posts were lame...

:eyes:

[sam sarrha]

18. that was when we thought it would be another quick assignation

[NorthernSpy]

20. Those millions of ordinary people weren't in the loop; she WAS...

... and she should have known better and had the courage and integrity to take the correct stand.

My state's current governor DID show such integrity when he was in Congress during that period. And the people of my state respect him for it.

[Proud2BAmurkin]

24. and she sought out and received assurances it would be a last resort

[cottonseed]

25. I'll tell ya, you're worth far more than $5 an hour.

You should ask to be paid commission on the number of active threads you have going (it's called performance based). Then, you need to put in a clause which increases your rate as your posts become more absurd. You'd really clean up.

[Peace Patriot]

29. That is simply NOT TRUE. 56% of Americans opposed the war, FEB. '03, NYT.

Other polls had it at 54-55%. That was the eve of the invasion (and it was after Colin Powell's 100% pack of lies to the UN--56% of Americans didn't still believe that the threat justified a war). The disapproval of the war dipped for a short time, during the invasion, when U.S. troops were at max risk, and then quickly began climbing back up to the overwhelming--and unprecedented--anti-war majority of today, SEVENTY PERCENT!

Don't slander the American people! 56% is a significant majority. It would be a landslide in a presidential election (and believe me, it was). A significant majority of the American people figured this bullshit out FROM THE BEGINNING.

And what's most interesting about that number is that, while 56% of Americans opposed the war, 50% of Americans also believed that Saddam Hussein had WMDs and/or had something to do with 9/11. This is interesting because it shows how ordinary people were distinguishing levels of threat and justifications for war. Some portion of that 56% believed those two lies, but judged that neither allegation was serious enough of a threat to justify a war. Of that 56% early anti-war majority, about half opposed the war outright, and the other half would support it if it was a UN peacekeeping mission (i.e., international consensus--something that never developed). All in all, it means that a significant majority didn't trust Bush and cabal FROM THE VERY BEGINNING.

Now tell me how, with this overwhelming 70% majority opposed to the Iraq War and wanting it ended, we "elected" a Congress that is doing the opposite--has ESCALATED the war, and has larded Bush/Cheney with billions more of our tax dollars to keep killing Iraqis until they sign over their oil rights?

How was that 56% majority defeated? How was this 70% majority defeated in '06?

I suggest that anyone who hasn't looked into it, needs to investigate what happens to their "vote" after they punch the touchscreen, or after their opti-scanned ballot is dropped into a box to gather dust. Cuz I think that's the key to it all.

And guess what? The "Help America Vote Act"-HAVA ($3.9 billion boondoggle, to fast-track non-transparent, electronic voting systems all over the country) was passed in the same month as the Iraq War Resolution-IWR. October 2002. Think they might be related? I do. The IWR guaranteed unjust war; HAVA provided the means to shove the unjust war down the throats of the American people.

Cuz they could still hear: "Hey, hey, LBJ/ how many kids did you kill today?" echoing in their appalled, war profiteering, fascist brains. And they knew that we would not let them do it again, if we, the peace-minded, justice-minded American majority, had anything to say about it.