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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 06:21 PM
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Pelosi on CNN...Party SuperDelegates Must Decide the Candidate
She says she disagrees with Donna Brazille that the "People Must Decide."

She's saying the State Party Delegates should have priority over the VOTERS!

Blitzer asks if we could have a Hillary/Obama ticket and Nancy giggles and stutters and says...she says it will be a "good decision" whoever is elected...but obviously doesn't want a Clinton/Obama ticket.

Is anyone WATCHING THIS? SHE IS DREADFUL...(Excuse my shouting) but I thought I was listening to a Fool! Stammering, stuttering and giggling...and backtracking.

Blitzer says he will have an Exclusive Interview with Pelosi at 11:00 a.m. this Sunday on his show.


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jackstraw45 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 06:23 PM
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1. Why am I not surprised? Shameful...
...but expected.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 06:27 PM
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9. Rules are rules. Whatever happened to all the people championing DNC rules?
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johnnydrama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 06:44 PM
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28. first of all
If my math is right, there are 800 super delegates, and 3200 pledge delegates.

That means that the super delegates are only 20% of the vote. So if Pelosi said they are more important, they are clearly not, even by DNC rules.

Second, 800 is way too many. 800 super delegates is 800 people, and 3200 pledged delegates is what, 25 million people

There's no way that's a just system.
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peace13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 07:18 PM
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33. I don't give the DNC a penny!
I guess my Democracy has been sold out from under me many years ago. Go Nancy!
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 06:24 PM
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2. How do we fire her ass?
Seriously, she's awful and we should get a say.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 06:39 PM
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25. You know I liked her better than "Hide Under the Table Harry" but I'm
having darker thoughts. When she dissed "Code Pink" for hanging "laundry in her Shrubbery" and quipped that if their "T-Shirts" with "Impeach Bush/Cheney" gave them Freedom of Speech rights they wouldn't have if they were "homeless and she could run them off their property" I was shocked and saddened. But, it seems Pelosi nor her staff see themselves the way the Liberal Blogospher sees HER...

There is something very wrong with her. She acts like a Matron presiding over a PTA MEETING, rather than the LEADER of the HOUSE where Democratic Voters and Supporters have been in total ANGST since "Selection 2000!"

NANCY DOESN'T SEE US OUT HERE! (excuse my shouting) but she's stressed me so much to the MAX....I can't control myself! :nuke:
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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 08:58 PM
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50. Yes.
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ORDagnabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 06:24 PM
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3. what super millionare Pelosi not wanting to listen to the serfs..er I mean populace.color me shocked
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 06:40 PM
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26. DAMMIT....I wish you hadn't mentioned the workd "Serfs" because it's Exactly
what I felt after seeing that interview. I felt "WORTHLESS!" Who the hell gives her the power to disenfranchise Democratic Voters?
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 06:25 PM
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4. ugh. she is such an embarassment.
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 08:01 PM
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37. Is she on some kind of medication?
It is so sad to watch her in this position ~ there was so much love and hope for her but Namcy needs to stay at home.
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peace13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 06:25 PM
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5. If she means that, her brains must have been sucked out
by the man from Mars! Why do I bother sitting at the polls next month, wasting a day of my life if this election is not for the people.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 06:30 PM
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17. Or maybe she respects DNC rules.
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peace13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 07:21 PM
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35. She respects DNC rules but does not respect Democracy or
sanctity of life for those in Iraq fighting and otherwise. I think she sticks to the rules when they please her.
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RockyTorres Donating Member (135 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 06:25 PM
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6. We do have a say and leave her alone...This is not a place to bash our own party!
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 06:28 PM
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11. Actually, this is the place. nt
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 06:26 PM
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7. Fuck it then. Why bother voting?
:nuke:
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Tarc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 06:31 PM
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18. Because 80% of the vote comes from peopel like us?
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spotbird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 08:16 PM
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44. We have four-fifths of a vote
so much better than three-fifths. We are progressive.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 06:26 PM
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8. Party delegates would likely chose the candidate with the most pledged delegates!
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 08:12 PM
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43. That's how it generally happens. If superD's see the people voting in larger numbers
for Obama, I can't imagine them "deciding" the election?
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 08:48 PM
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48. Oh, people here would say they decided the election if they use popular vote as a metric, though.
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 06:27 PM
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10. Do they KNOW that they are inviting mass demostrations? I know that
don't want that again.
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bicentennial_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 06:28 PM
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12. If it comes to that, I will fly to f'n Denver
Seriously. Fuck that. x(
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Tarc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 06:30 PM
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16. Mass demonstrations from who? Morons who don't know how an election works?
I can picture the "NO ONE TOLD ME ABOUT THE SUPERDELEGATES!" placards now. :eyes:

Srsly people, get a grip. Superdelegates wasn't some secret, unknown factor going into this primary season. If you didn't know about it, and didn't know how it affects the election process, than that is YOUR fault, not the PARTY'S fault.

Ignorance is no excuse.
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tritsofme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 06:33 PM
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24. Even if you have known about them for years.
Doesn't mean you like the system.

I expect some serious reform before the next cycle.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 06:42 PM
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27. She doesn't care about that because "Mass Demonstrations against Iraq Invasion"
were NOT successful. Remember the DU Wars that A.N.S.W.E.R. and United for Peace and Justice were Left Wing Communist Organizations and those of us who took time out of our lives to attend their rallies were weenies who were tools of the Socialists? :shrug: Remember that?
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JackORoses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 06:29 PM
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13. It is being reported in the MSM, that their are not enough pledged delegates left to decide a winner
So we're left with the Superdelegates.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 06:30 PM
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15. Too many people assume is that they would chose the candidate with the least pledged delegate.
There is nothing suggesting that at all. It's a joke.
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tritsofme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 06:32 PM
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20. What if there is one candidate with nominally more pledged delegates
Edited on Thu Feb-07-08 06:33 PM by tritsofme
however that same candidate has several hundred thousand fewer primary votes?

That will be the interesting conundrum.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 07:02 PM
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30. Maybe they'll go after the popular vote then.
I wonder how people would feel about that.
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 06:31 PM
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19. Exactly....
Wait a minute....


I agreed with JackORoses.....


I going to hide under my bed :scared:

;-)
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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 08:59 PM
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51. What about the Edwards' delegates?
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Neshanic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 06:29 PM
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14. Uh oh...
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 06:33 PM
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21. Pelosi blamed Dean, did not blame Florida. Said delegates would count.
http://journals.democraticunderground.com/madfloridian/1567

I wonder if anyone else sees where this is heading? The scenario of back to the future....forget the voters.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 07:03 PM
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31. I like how you continually pretend a million voters shouldn't count.
Just because things didn't go their way. Pelosi never suggests here that they should count toward the nomination, and your obsession continues to show.
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islandmkl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 06:33 PM
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22. i'm lazy...i'll just repeat what i said yesterday...
oh well, hell....i didn't realize the parties made their own rules.:sarcasm: I think everyone understands that. Or maybe that is exactly what I'm talking about. Where do you begin to accept 'rules' that impose restraints on the very core concepts of your society? 'That's the way it is' is nothing but a cop-out and a surrender by the truly un-involved. Posting and blogging is SO easy for all of us...yeah, we want CHANGE...but we don't want to change anything. -- Nancy ain't part of any change that's going to happen. The Democratic Party needs to come back to the people. Super-delegates, my ass. We need leadership, not because we are sheep, but because our power needs to have vision and direction.
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 06:33 PM
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23. That is terrible.
:mad:

Let the voters decide. We the people.
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Life Long Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 06:59 PM
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29. I felt she want's those doors kept wide open to go behind some closed doors.
Or there is the teaming up that needs to be stopped.
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IndieLeft Donating Member (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 07:04 PM
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32. And THAT is what is wrong with Nancy Pelosi.
I knew she didn't give a shit about us. Ever since she said impeachment was off the table.

I said it, and I mean it. If our vote doesn't decide who the Dem candidate is, I'm done with politics. I'm never voting again.
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newmajority Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 07:19 PM
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34. Pelosi knows damn well that she only gets to keep her job if Hillary is President.
Her and the partner in spinelessness Reid are history when Obama moves into the White House.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 07:52 PM
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36. yes they are history....durbin for majority leader
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jlake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 08:02 PM
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38. I agree.
Edited on Thu Feb-07-08 08:03 PM by jlake
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newmajority Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 08:07 PM
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40. I'd go with Chris Dodd for majority leader
I'd say he's earned it, standing up to the spineless ones recently.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 08:43 PM
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46. ya he`d be really good too
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 08:05 PM
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39. She looked and sounded HIDEOUS.
Ugh! It's time for her to go. She has done nothing for our party.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 10:22 PM
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56. There was So Much Hope for Her...I was Proud.... ..What Happened?
So much Promise...and yet she seems like John Conyers....stammering and stuttering in a defensive mode.

:shrug:
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LoveForPeace Donating Member (45 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 08:08 PM
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41. She's a Neocon pretending to be a Democrat
The worst kind
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Blarch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 08:09 PM
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42. The betrayal runs deeper..
fuck that piece of trash, my hate for her is strong.
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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 08:36 PM
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45. The nightmare continues....
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 08:44 PM
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47. I strongly disagree with her...n/t
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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 08:58 PM
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49. IMPEACHment!
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 09:02 PM
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52. What kind of problem will this cause?
Edited on Thu Feb-07-08 09:06 PM by AX10
.
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Whisp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 09:04 PM
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53. not surprised. Pelosi wants to Protect the Bushes
as she has already done countless times.

now she wants to protect those file cabinets in office, and the only way to do that is have another clinton with the key.
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harun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 09:08 PM
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54. Why do I feel like it is November in the year 2000 all over again (n/t)
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Araxen Donating Member (826 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 09:37 PM
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55. What a waste
Edited on Thu Feb-07-08 10:23 PM by Araxen
Nancy "I've done barely nothing since becoming majority leader" Pelosi
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