Would everyone please stop with the Age Discrimination

[Indenturedebtor]

Please.

It's hateful and disingenous. I've met plenty of people who are both older and younger than me who are also less and more intelligent/wise going both ways.

If age = wisdom then GW wouldn't be such a freakin moron. Can we forget about what age/race/gender/religion people are and let our points speak for themselves please? Or is this a freeper forum?

[cgrindley]

1. GW is a boomer (nt)

[msongs]

2. so is Obama nt

[cgrindley]

4. 1961 is close enough to 1965 for me (nt)

[blogslut]

20. Generation Jones

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generation_Jones

If you're a member of that age group, you know exactly how left out we feel.

[rox63]

23. That's my generation!

I'd never heard of "Generation Jones" before now. People keep telling me that I'm technically a baby boomer. (born in 1963) But I've never felt like I had much in common with most baby boomers. I hit adulthood in the early eighties, when most baby boomers were very settled and heading towards middle-age. But I also wasn't young enough to fit into Gen X.

[blogslut]

24. I know

It's like we've lived our whole lives on the sidelines. Now...IT'S OUR TURN!

[Jed Dilligan]

27. I like Reverend Horton Heat's take on it

"Baby boom or X,
I don't know what I am,
All I need to know is when it's time to slam,
Threw a little party cause it just felt right,
It lasted ten years and it's goin' on tonight."

One of my best friends is a child of '62 and this describes his life pretty well.

[blogslut]

32. ZOMG! I used to know Jim Heath

Spent many an alleyway (ahem) moment with old Jim. My best friend's brother was his manager a million years ago. Really quiet fellow. His standup bass player was insane!

[LittleClarkie]

30. I'm the same aga as you, and people alternately put me in Boomer or GenX

so I never know what I am.

Generation Jones. Cool.

[Indenturedebtor]

3. Yes but you know the attacks

on Obama supporters and young democrats that I'm talking about. It's disgusting.

[cgrindley]

5. Didn't you guys attack everyone older than you in the 60's?

and then gloat like nobody's business when Clinton got elected? I seem to remember that the Boomers weren't very graceful winners and now, it's payback time. You had 16 years and you fucked them up royally. Step out of the way and you can either do it some grace (like the generation before you) or you can simply get shoved aside. And be nice or my generation will cancel your social security.

[Iris]

6. not this member.

I don't want my mom living in my basement, thank you very much!

[cgrindley]

7. I'm 1966

six months older than Kurt Cobain.

[NMMNG]

14. And you have half as much sense as he did

:eyes:

[cgrindley]

15. Pretty rich coming from a Buffy fan (nt)

[NMMNG]

16. At least I know how to respect my elders

Rather than throw them into the Soylent Green hopper because they're "in my way".

[Indenturedebtor]

8. Oh come on

We need to work together. We have WAY too many problems in this country to not be united. When the "war" is just we all have to stand together. Global warming, etc will take us all to fight effectively.

[blues90]

10. I have found that there are all sorts of people who are

Smart or just plain stupid and age or gender or race has nothing at all to do with it .

I held people older than me with due respect since no matter where they came from in life or what they did each had some knowledge I did not have . I have also learned from people younger than me , there are new things that were not around when I grew up .

Both young and old people alike are guilty of ignorance , this is the one thing they do have in common and cannot escape unless they recognise it and change it .

[1monster]

11. Were you there? Or are you relying on that old saw where some rock star said something like

"Never trust anyone over thirty?" :eyes:

The HUGE majority of kids in the sixties and seventies that I knew respected their parents and their elders.

As for rejoicing when Clinton got in, well, anyone with a brain did that. Not because Clinton was so great, because, at that time we didn't know him well enough to draw that conclusion.

But because it was the end of the Reagan/Bush reign.

It had nothing to do with him being a Boomer.

God, the way people twist things.

I'm starting to wonder who is behind it and why. The divisiveness on this board anymore is absolutely disgusting. I'll be glad when the election is over and all the provacatuers slither away.

[cgrindley]

12. It's not divisiveness, it's a genuine desire to have our leaders

we don't want you guys any more. We want our turn.

[1monster]

17. And your guys will do sooo much better? I doubt it. I'm cynical enough to know that

old joke about the farmer and the politician has more than a grain of truth.

"I'm running for (office of your choice), sir and I am an honest man! May I count on your vote on Election Day?"

"No sir, you may not!"

"But why not? I am an honest man. Don't you believe me?"

"Yes, sir, I believe you and that is why I will not vote for you. I want to keep you an honest man."

The machine tht is running Washington,DC these days corrupts, crushes, or conquers (a la Cynthia McKinny) honest people. The next generation that comes to power will make the same compromises as the current ones are making. I'm not sure that it is all due to dishonesty. There are some people on the Hill who seem to have been threatened or blackmailed.

All this "our generation can do better than yours" is just so much nonsense. We've been here before. (on edit: Remember? "The torch has been passed to a new generation?" That was in John Kennedy's Inaguration Speech.)

The fact of the matter is that age and generation are not and should not be made into a factor in choosing our government.

How many members of Congress and how many of our Presidents in the last century and this have known what it is like to be so poor that they don't know if they will be able to keep a roof over their heads? Dennis Kucinich comes to mind. Bill Clinton came up hard. Are there any others?

Very few people who have come up more than comfortably can relate to the needs of the growing number of those who live in uncertainty, and that is a very necessary quality for a law maker.

The real battle isn't generational. It is among Bush's base, "the haves and have mores," the have somes who are clinging on by their fingernails to keep it, the have very littles, and the have nothings. The Powerful vs the Powerless... Those of us who have some and are clinging are, by the way, currently in the Powerless group.

Those Powerful will hold on to power by any means they have to employ, aided unfortunately, by the haves somes who cling by the fingernais because they are deluded into thinking the Powerfuls care about them.

Once a power system is in place, it damned hard to break it. Presidents come and Presidents go. Representatives come and go, as do Senators. The the Power structure stays intact. Those who are in power now will hand pick those who will take their place, mentor and tutor them in the same ways to keep the status quo.

I'm not really sure why the artificially bracketed Gen Xers are so into blaming the artificially bracketed Boomers for the current debacles. The early Gen Xers generation were along with the late Boomers, the much tallyhooed Yuppie (Young Upwardly Mobile Professional -- or some such nonsense) group. And they only bought into the fiction that they and anyone could have the American Dream if they just worked for it.

[guruoo]

19. Yeah, back when I was young and foolish...

:rofl:

[BlackVelvet04]

26. How unifying........n/t

[nonconformist]

28. But he doesn't consider himself one. And derides them.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/01/21/weekinreview/21broder.html?ref=weekinreview

[LittleClarkie]

9. You mean the talk about those old fossils, Kerry and Kennedy, and such?

Yeah, that's been getting to me too. Criticizing someone's choices is one thing, but to put them down and ridicule them just because you have a difference of opinion as to who to vote for is just ludicrous.

[cgrindley]

13. How could you type Kerry and Kennedy in the same sentence?

Kennedy really didn't do much except double team fat chicks in the White House. He was pretty and all, but not the sharpest tool in the shed. He delivered some excellent speeches, had a handful of decent legislative programs, managed to both instigate and "solve" the Cuban missile crisis, and out of the two judges he appointed, one voted against abortion rights and the other was talked into resigning by that asshole Johnson. C+. An average presidency. He didn't do anything that any other president wouldn't have done under the same circumstances.

Kerry is a fucking idiot. A simpering weakling. A mental midget.

[1monster]

18. I started writing a serious and scholarly response to your post, but then

reread it.

I'm not wasting my time with attitudes like yours.

[cgrindley]

22. So you'd argue that Kennedy's SCOTUS appointments were intelligent choices?

In the most common versions of Arthurian Romance--eg Malory, Gawain, etc--Mordred would have had a good point. Camelot really wasn't a paragon of good governance or virtue. Arthur still pulled the sword out of the stone, but that's really got nothing to do with his inept reign.

[LittleClarkie]

25. Teddy Kennedy. I was talking about Teddy. John is dead, and so couldn't campaign for Obama.

Hence...

And if that's your opinion of Kerry, then you never did look very hard at him. Ever. At all.

[cgrindley]

31. I like Teddy. Who doesn't?

He's the man. Pretty dubious personal choices, but a hell of a good politician.

[OneBlueSky]

21. sorry, but when hearing someone's opinion about something . . .

the amount of life experience that person has had is a useful consideration . . . young people who haven't yet found that your life doesn't always turn out the way you planned or hoped tend to be a lot more idealistic than realistic . . . I know, because I was once younger myself, and I thought I knew it all . . . living a few more decades has taught me otherwise . . .

[no name no slogan]

29. GOML