Not That I Carry Weight - But I Urge All Obama People To Support Hillary If She's The Nominee

[THUNDER HANDS]

I know she voted for the war.
I know she voted for the amendment with Iran.
I know she's hawkish on foreign policy.
I know she is divisive and grates some people the wrong way.

But there are two reasons to support Hillary if she's the nominee.

Those would be these two reasons....
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These two probably can't wait another 4 or 8 years for a Democrat to appoint their successors.

Please, think of that when you make up your mind. McCain WILL nominate RW judges, and not just RW judges, but YOUNG RW judges who will be on the court for decades.

That is a legacy that outlasts anything else a president can do while in office.

Thinnk of that, please.

And I urge Hillary supporters to think the same of Obama.

[Vincardog]

1. You also know she represents the DLC and the "Powers that be" that want to stop any progressive

progress. Right? We need to drive the radical reich and the DLC out of our government.

[THUNDER HANDS]

3. her husband was DLC and he gave us those two justices

and those two justices are the only things right now standing between complete fascism and a semblence of democracy.

[sabbat hunter]

16. Bill did not

give us John Paul Stevens, I believe Ford did.

But Clinton did give us Ginsberg, Souter, both solid left of center justices.

[Vincardog]

44. Bill also sold us NAFTA the Welfare to work fiasco, caved to corporate interests on

Telecommunications deregulations. They are both bought and paid for by the money class.

[BlueStateGirl]

2. Never considered not voting for Obama if he were to get the

nomination.

I am a Democrat. I support my party's candidate.

[MadBadger]

4. I thought we all agreed that if Obama loses, we will all drink the juice

Thats how this cult will go out.

[UALRBSofL]

7. We all will vote for whoever it is

Were not stupid. But in the mean time, consider voting for Hillary. :)

[populistdriven]

37. will it hurt?

[Gore1FL]

5. Clearly-- and vice versa

Both Hillary and Obama are better than anything in the GOP.

I used to post here religiously in 2001-2003. I come back now and again for an occasional post, but I don't see the solidarity we had then.

Now it is either a bunch of me-too posts or backbiting posts. If DU can't rally around the Dem nominee, no matter who it is, then everyonehas foprgotten the lessosfor Florida 2000.

[unkachuck]

6. then we'd better....

....work hard....so she isn't the nominee....

[donheld]

8. I will most happily support the lady if

she becomes the nominee.

[anamandujano]

9. Maybe you should email the campaign manager and suggest

Obama get on board. He said he would listen to the people.

[THUNDER HANDS]

10. I'll see if I can suggest

he offer her a nice spot at the convention when he gives his acceptance speech. :)

[Gore1FL]

11. Hasn't he?

I recollect Obama saying, when asked, that he would support the Dem Nominee.

[Tarc]

12. Then perhaps he should cut the shit with all the "my voters won't vote for Clinton" proclamations

That certainly isn't helping matters any.

[THUNDER HANDS]

13. clearly he wasn't referring to Democrats though

he was referring to independents and republicans who suppprt him. there's a difference.

[anamandujano]

17. Putting words in his mouth again. Explaining what he really meant.

Don't you ever get tired of it?

He is such a big baby. With every passing few days, he steps in it again. After awhile his stupid remarks will reach critical mass.

He is not ready for prime time.

[iconoclastic cat]

14. Why did you feel you needed to post this? nt

[McCamy Taylor]

19. Obama and Michelle are both playing on Party fears of 1968, trying to win voters.

In 1968, Gene McCarthy took his voters and went home. This contributed to the Democrat's loss and almost 8 years of Richard Nixon (except for Watergate). Obama and Michelle know exactly what they are doing. They are implying that their voters are so personally enamored of Barack that they would be unwilling to switch to Hillary, even if Barack were to get down on his knees and beg them--which he might or might not do. He is also implying that he might not feel like getting down on his knees and begging.

Everyone knows that Edwards will support the nominee because he is a good Democrat. Everyone is pretty sure that Hillary will, because she is a good Democrat.

If Obama gets cute and tries to pull a Gene, thinking that he can throw the election to McCain and come back in in 4 years and get elected then, he will find that the Democratic Party has no use for him. When Gene came back in 1972, he could not win a single primary. The Democrats reward loyalty. So, chances are that if he does not get the nomination, he will take a VP spot with Hillary, which would make a dream ticket, pulling in the entire Democratic base and setting Obama up for a great presidential run in the future.

If Obama is the nominee, he will probably need someone southern and military like Webb. Or maybe Latino like Richardson with loads of foreign policy experience.

Hillary goes back to the Senate where she will reign as queen forever. I think she would prefer to be in the senate, myself, but Bill wants her to be president.

[quakerboy]

33. Obama will support the party

even if he looses. My 20 something friends will not. That is the reality. And Obama doesnt control their votes, he just inspires them.

[calico1]

41. Excellent points. I totally agree.

I think Obama is playing a dangerous game. If his divisive tactics contribute to the Republicans winning in Nov. most voters will not forget 4 years from now.

[Kber]

15. I'm voting for the Dem nominee

I can live with either candidate.

[demigoddess]

18. As a Hillary supporter I hope all support Obama if he is the candidate but

I would LOVE a Clinton/Obama ticket. Call me a fool but I think he could follow her with another 8 years and that would keep the neo cons down for years. And we need to outlive scalia, alito, thomas etc.

[Auntie Bush]

22. You can say that again!

[SheWhoMustBeObeyed]

27. Well ***I*** urge all Clinton supporters to support Obama if he is the candidate and

I shall be your leader!

http://www.deflint.nl.nyud.net:8090/contentfiles/2800.Evita1.jpg

But seriously yes, we need to take back the WH and protect the SCOTUS from further deterioration.

[Auntie Bush]

20. I've been saying that regularly. I hope many people read this excellent post.

I would never even think about NOT voting for Obama! Perish the thought!
This is the primaries and we all want our favorite candidate to win. However, all should be forgiven after (or at least several months) the primaries. If not we are selfish and not thinking about what's best for our country and a more right wing judges are definitely not what's best for our country. In fact it's damn right dangerous!

However, Michele even hesitated or failed to say she'd vote for Hillary if she won the primary. I personally don't think she set a very good example. I hope in the future she will set the record straight.

[Pushed To The Left]

32. I'm an Obama supporter and her answer really bothered me too.

We need to be unified in November!

[jgraz]

34. It was not a great answer, but I understand it

She wasn't asked if she would VOTE for Hillary, she was asked if she would CAMPAIGN for Hillary. I can imagine how the wife of a candidate who has been busting her ass for her husband's primary bid may need to take a few deep breaths before she agrees to go back out on the stump for the woman who has been attacking them all these months.

[Auntie Bush]

43. Thanks, Maybe you can warn others how important this is to remember

in the heat of the primaries. I asked you to spread the message because I'm probably on everyone's ignore list so it's like singing to the choir around here.

[IndianaGreen]

21. Many of them are independents that are not impressed by the old tired partisan argument

as to the abortion issue, we lost that one a long time ago. It is not the SCOTUS, but all those Federalist Society judges on the lower courts that Bill Clinton and George W. Bush put on the bench (Bush accounts for 30% of them).

Before being appointed to SCOTUS, Judge Bader Ginzburg recognized that Roe was wrongly decided. Instead of using privacy as the basis for its holding, the Court should have used the equality under the law in its reasoning in support of reproductive rights. It is the fetal viability argument used in Roe that will be its undoing. Considering how much medical technology has advanced in the decades since Roe, it is within the realm of probability that abortions will become illegal under the old Roe construct.

[JimGinPA]

23. Hillary Will NOT Win A General Election

I've made the same argument about the SC Justices. If Hillary wins the nomination, the point is moot.

[Eurobabe]

24. No question, I will support her

we can't let CONS take the White House.

[Bread and Circus]

25. I agree but is that what the DLC is going to bludgeon us with every time?

It's like "fuck all else but you know you gotta vote for us or else...." It's politics by fear, no?

[Political Heretic]

26. I will, don't worry!

I think some of the people who swear they won't actually will once the heat dies down and they start thinking about the good of the country clearly again.

It hurts if you don't feel the nominee would be the best choice for president, and its hard if you feel like you end up voting for the lesser of two not good choices in the general. But in the end there are compelling reasons to vote for any democrat over any republican.

[Hill_YesWeWill]

28. And Vice Versa, right? nt

[Jed Dilligan]

29. Good call, I planned to hold my nose and vote for her

not that it will matter in California.

[Pushed To The Left]

30. K&R!! This is my #1 reason for supporting the Democratic nominee in November no matter what.

The right wing doesn't forget about this. They always bring up "the judges". They want to stack the Courts and create a whole generation of civil rights rollbacks that will make the country more right wing than ever before. However, too many progressives/liberals just don't get it! They don't seem to understand how deadly the stacking of the Courts by the right wing will be. It's time to wake up, people! Not only do we need a Democratic President, but we need a supermajority in the Senate just in case the Republicans get the presidency. NO MORE RIGHT WING JUSTICES!!

[cooolandrew]

31. You don't need to give me justices they are defunct. McCain is reason alone..

..McCain "there will be more wars and more PTSD"

[jgraz]

35. Let's just make sure it doesn't come to that

You may vote for her and I may vote for her, but I know many people who will stay home or (ugh) vote McCain if Hillary is the nominee. After the disappointments of 110th Congress, a Hillary candidacy will be the death knell of this party.

[rodeodance]

36. Thanks for the post

[Meldread]

38. I will vote for Hillary if she is the nominee for exactly that reason.

Then I will work to make sure that she does minimal damage to the party, as she brings in the DLC, and strive to make sure she is a one term President.

[terrya]

39. Exactly right. And this Hillary supporter thinks the same of Obama.

Like I have said, I will certainly support and vote for Obama if he's the nominee.

Thank you for your post. Recommended.

[Marrah_G]

40. Whichever Dem wins has my support with both my vote and my sweat

[Dawgs]

42. I will not support her.

But, she will probably get my vote.